Opt-in and "encrypted at rest" AKA actually encrypted are the correct defaults.

I'm also uninterested unless both the client and the server are made open-source, because terminals are a bread-and-butter program and there's just no way I'm getting locked into someone else's cloud for that.

But the specific sentence you've quoted is a strange thing from which to recoil, from where I'm sitting.

All details here: https://www.warp.dev/privacy

We are particularly excited about sharing our Rust UI framework since there aren't a lot of great options for building native UIs in Rust right now. We want to make it cross-platform first though.

Druid as it exists today is not a great fit for what you're trying to do, as drawing on mac is all based on Core Graphics and Core Text. GPU-based drawing is the future, and we're working on that (piet-gpu), but it's not yet in a really usable state.

In any case, hope this goes well. It's clear to me that Rust-based UI is the most viable path to an Electron alternative in the future, and the more evidence we have for that, the better.

You'd exactly right that's why we didn't pick Druid--we needed something that rendered on the GPU. We actually talk more about this decision in our "How Warp Works" blog post here: https://blog.warp.dev/how-warp-works/

Developing in the open would make it easier to trust that you're not doing something nefarious. When I think about the kind of data that goes through my terminal on a day-to-day basis, I have to _know_ for sure that my terminal can be trusted. That makes Warp a non-starter for me until it's open source, which is really a shame because it looks fantastic.

https://github.com/linebender/druid

Your plan should have been to wait until something was downloadable before you announced it.

Anything useful you produce will be community-maintained eventually, and your cloud product will vanish once you complete your amazing journey; anything in-between seems like rent-seeking. Meanwhile, your competitors are Free Software and can out-develop you.

True. And a terminal that requires an e-mail login? I doubt they are going to build a social product, then users can co-op or date in the terminal.

https://assets-global.website-files.com/60352b1db5736ada4741...

It's rare enough for me to have a need for sharing a screen, but sharing a single type of window would cover just a tiny proportion of those rare cases.

My tech stack is atypical enough in many respects that maybe others will find it more useful, but to me this seems like a couple of useful but easily copied features (the auto-complete), and some stuff I'd never use.

Email is required only for the closed beta. Warp will be offline-first. All details here: https://www.warp.dev/privacy.

I spend 1/3rd of my day in terminal emulators, and anything that reduces the number of stupid (normally memory corruption) crashes that interrupt my work is a legitimate value proposition for me.

Edit: This isn’t an endorsement of this particular product, to be clear. I don’t know anything about it, except that being written in a fast, memory safe language endears me to it.

I use urxvt on Linux, and I don't have any problems with it.

Edit: I should also mention that I see plenty of non-crashing, non-hanging bugs with iTerm2 that look like memory misuse to me: split-workspace mode (tiled with a text editor) causes wonky graphical errors, and I've seen what looked like buffer reuse artifacts when switching between monitors.

I cannot recall any crashes in alacritty, gnome-terminal, xfce-terminal or the legacy windows console for other terminals I've used a decent amount.

Warp is a fork of Alacritty, their team was very gracious in collaborating and reviewing Warp's initial designs.

People who care about security.

Those people tend to care more for their term being opensource than it being in Rust. Dont trust those who claim otherwise.

Can you explain your objection in more detail? It seems like a terminal offering some kind of real-time collaboration with team members is a reasonable thing to offer, and that if you have that feature then it's good that it's opt-in with encrypted data.

Fads.

Unicorns (but they probably don't exist).

> the report says that they have "recently reconfirmed" the lair of one of the unicorns ridden by the ancient Korean King Tongmyong, founder of a kingdom which ruled parts of China and the Korean peninsula from the the 3rd century BC to 7th century AD. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/nov/30/unicorn-lair-d...

^a joke

Kind of seemed to me like just another project.

I guess the kids these days have to start at volume 10 with "hard no!" or "best ever!" to be heard. THAT is a fad.

EDIT: silent downvotes for saying this?

What if the project turns out to not be a fad, and a month or six later more people are using it and loving it? How does a "hard no" person back down from their bold rejection? This is what I was talking about.