Re:El Salvador to airdrop $30 in Bitcoin to up to 6M citizens
by rocqua on Friday June 25, 2021 @08:40AM
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Lightning network helps repeated small transactions between the same pair.
However, the first transaction between a specific pair (channel opening) still needs to occur on-chain. That transaction still pays a full fee.
Re:El Salvador to airdrop $30 in Bitcoin to up to 6M citizens
by varajelle on Friday June 25, 2021 @12:34PM
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You can route through your pair. Say A has a channel with B, B has a channel with C and C has a channel with D, you can make payment between A and D provided that B and C are online. In a way that nobody can steal money from one another, and neither B not D know who is paying who.
In practice, B and C would probably be like banks or exchanges, with many channels, while normal users only need one channel open.
Re:El Salvador to airdrop $30 in Bitcoin to up to 6M citizens
by rocqua on Friday June 25, 2021 @04:56PM
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True, and in fact lightning payments tend to take many hops if routed publically.
But every citizen would still need atleast one lightning channel. And opening those is expensive.
Re:El Salvador to airdrop $30 in Bitcoin to up to 6M citizens
by narrator on Friday June 25, 2021 @10:52PM
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The lightning channel would go through a custodial wallet. Yes, people could self host their own wallets, but fees would be higher because they'd have to open a lightning channel.
Re:El Salvador to airdrop $30 in Bitcoin to up to 6M citizens
by thehappypm on Friday June 25, 2021 @02:04PM
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So you need something centralized for it to actually work.
Re:El Salvador to airdrop $30 in Bitcoin to up to 6M citizens
by varajelle on Saturday June 26, 2021 @07:34AM
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No, why?
It's all P2P.
Re:El Salvador to airdrop $30 in Bitcoin to up to 6M citizens
by tffgg on Friday June 25, 2021 @05:33AM
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How secure is it compared to real transactions?
Re:El Salvador to airdrop $30 in Bitcoin to up to 6M citizens
by rocqua on Friday June 25, 2021 @08:42AM
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There are risks, you need to remain online to catch your counter-party cheating.
There are ways to outsource this to so-called watchtowers. This can generally be done privately, and the watchtowers generally get to take at least some of the cheater's money.
I haven't heard of any successful malicious channel theft. I have read quite a few stories of people losing local data making it much harder to recover the money in the channel.
Re:El Salvador to airdrop $30 in Bitcoin to up to 6M citizens
by xiphias2 on Friday June 25, 2021 @05:38AM
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As far as I know you have to be on the internet at least once in 30 days, so it's good only for hot wallets. Also for payments over $1k probably right now Bitcoin transaction is more practical (I have heard of $100k lightning transactions though).
https://www.coindesk.com/strike-launches-bitcoin-lightning-p...