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Re:A US socialite who gave it all up to become a Carmelite nun by MisterBastahrd on Sunday June 13, 2021 @12:50AM (#27489835)
Parents have a responsibility when they create a child that doesn't disappear simply because that kid becomes an adult. If every 18 year old on the planet were left to their own devices, it would be an absolute disaster.
Re:A US socialite who gave it all up to become a Carmelite nun by iammisc on Sunday June 13, 2021 @02:06AM (#27490179)
Catholic monastic orders aren't going to accept parents unless they can demonstrate they've already performed their religious duties to children. My guess would be the children were okay with it, and she had to show the order. Given her previous occupation, I doubt her children were left materially wanting
Re:A US socialite who gave it all up to become a Carmelite nun by toast0 on Sunday June 13, 2021 @02:43AM (#27490346)
She did disappear, but if her kids were all doing fine, and the kids each had 9 siblings to turn of in case of trouble, I think she did her parental duty, and so why should she not follow her calling?

It sounds like she considered it for five years, most likely in communication with her children, and then decided to go ahead with the plan. Of the many things one could decide to do at age 60, this one doesn't sound too bad.

Re:A US socialite who gave it all up to become a Carmelite nun by treyfitty on Sunday June 13, 2021 @02:11AM (#27490201)
What do you mean? A lot of my friends and I gained independence at 18, and it was liberating for us. Not sure what disaster was supposed to ensue.
Re:A US socialite who gave it all up to become a Carmelite nun by ironmagma on Sunday June 13, 2021 @03:01PM (#27495269)
Independence yes, but complete independence in every way? Of course not. There is an offramping period, and for many, the benefits of familial bonds continue throughout life including things like a safety net in case you lose your job.
Re:A US socialite who gave it all up to become a Carmelite nun by MisterBastahrd on Sunday June 13, 2021 @04:52AM (#27490943)
I'm sure you're really special.

Most 18 year olds aren't remotely ready for complete isolation from their parents, though.

Re:A US socialite who gave it all up to become a Carmelite nun by maccard on Sunday June 13, 2021 @05:24AM (#27491102)
I moved out at 18. I still remember phoning my dad about 3 months later panicking because I didn't realise that my gas and electricity bills were two separate things that had to be paid.

I was independent, buyi was definitely not ready for isolation.

Re:A US socialite who gave it all up to become a Carmelite nun by Grustaf on Sunday June 13, 2021 @01:41PM (#27494515)
Just as a counterpoint, moving out at 18 is the norm here in the Nordics, living with your parents when you're 22 is considered weird.
Re:A US socialite who gave it all up to become a Carmelite nun by MisterBastahrd on Monday June 14, 2021 @06:48AM (#27501143)
That's not a counterpoint.

We're talking about the US here. Most 18 year olds do not have the ability to acquire their own healthcare AND afford their own housing.

Even aside from that, when a young person starts a family for the first time, they often lean on their parents for advice because this is life experience they don't have and there are plenty of issues that someone without that experience would not anticipate.

This person did not revoke financial support from her kids. She revoked emotional support from them.

Re:A US socialite who gave it all up to become a Carmelite nun by Grustaf on Monday June 14, 2021 @08:06AM (#27501607)
Sorry, but are we talking about finance or emotions? You're saying it's different in the US because of health care costs, but go on to say that she didn't revoke financial support, so finance seems a moot point.

With regards to emotional support, it sounds like her youngest child was close to 30, so I don't think that's a big issue. Of course it's nice to have contact with your mother even if you're 30, but it's a bit rich to suggest she "abandoned" her grown children. Presumably she discussed it with them first.

And most likely the kids married people that had at least one parent to get parenting advice from.

Re:A US socialite who gave it all up to become a Carmelite nun by MisterBastahrd on Monday June 14, 2021 @04:12PM (#27507671)
Since when has parenting been merely transactional? 30 year olds routinely get advice from parents as they progress through life. The entire world is largely better off for it. Wisdom is something best taken in small doses as required.
Re:A US socialite who gave it all up to become a Carmelite nun by Grustaf on Monday June 14, 2021 @04:21PM (#27507778)
Of course it’s not transactional, that’s why i said that it’s nice to have a good relationship with your parents even as a grown up.

My only point is that it’s absurd to talk about “abandoning your children” when these children are close to and over 30!

Re:A US socialite who gave it all up to become a Carmelite nun by decremental on Sunday June 13, 2021 @01:26AM (#27489990)
I generally agree. Though we've sort of swung in the opposite direction it seems where parents will fail to instill an upbringing that doesn't end up with their kids being 35 and still at home. Also an absolute disaster by my estimation.
Re:A US socialite who gave it all up to become a Carmelite nun by Torwald on Sunday June 13, 2021 @05:06AM (#27491003)
How does society help parents of 18 year olds with that tasks?

I see expensive college and unlike it used to be it is nowadays an open question wether you will recoup the cost. Military recruiters trying to "get" your kids. In some countries you can get paid therapy via health care.

Re:A US socialite who gave it all up to become a Carmelite nun by randomdata on Sunday June 13, 2021 @08:05AM (#27491835)
When did you ever recoup your cost? Incomes held stagnant through the rise of college attainment, which means that there was no increase in pay to cover the cost.
Re:A US socialite who gave it all up to become a Carmelite nun by CalRobert on Sunday June 13, 2021 @02:58AM (#27490417)
Or, as a counterpoint, no they don't. 18 year olds are adults.
Re:A US socialite who gave it all up to become a Carmelite nun by MisterBastahrd on Sunday June 13, 2021 @04:53AM (#27490947)
That isn't a counterpoint, and it's frankly ridiculous given any sort of actual consideration of the modern world.
Re:A US socialite who gave it all up to become a Carmelite nun by CalRobert on Sunday June 13, 2021 @06:31AM (#27491407)
Ok, when are people grown up?
Re:A US socialite who gave it all up to become a Carmelite nun by robbintt on Sunday June 13, 2021 @07:59AM (#27491801)
They don't. But we often put on a good show.
Re:A US socialite who gave it all up to become a Carmelite nun by splithalf on Sunday June 13, 2021 @10:47AM (#27493085)
Rich parents are very different. Imagine sending your children off to boarding school! But that’s seen as perfectly normal in rich people culture, and has been for centuries.