We often read (1) and (2) all the time with various scams from call centres, now the law has used that approach against a criminal and taken it too another level.
I have a lot of respect for this approach against such criminals on many levels.
But one take away from all this - IT security is often limited by humans and this highlights that perfectly. Just nice too read about criminals falling foul to the law who have taken one of their play-books and used it against them. Sure makes a change from reading about some old person loosing all their savings as somebody convinced them to install some random app just because they said they was from the bank/Microsoft etc.
I just heard on the radio (I’m an Aussie) that it’s not a phone app, it’s some kind if dedicated device that doesn’t do sms, mail or voice, only encrypted messages (that the law enforcement had the keys to).
I gotta be honest, I would find the idea there kind of appealing ...
It's pretty interesting! Can't wait for more details on the scheme.
Generally drug dealers are servants of their community, providing goods and services to people in a collegial manner.
These were viscous, murderous, gangsters. Their greed and hubris bought them down as much as cleaver policing. Which is not to minimise the cleverness of the coppers, very cleaver, very smart. Get these parasites out of our communities.
For drugs like cannabis from neighbourhood indoor growers.
For drugs like synthetic opioids (ad Ketamine) directly from the pharmaceutical companies.
For drugs like cocaine and natural opiates they are imported from revolutionary groups mostly. This one is tricky, as the other end of the trade tends to be fairly brutish, so there is a thriving "middle man" business.
I do not get your point.
My point is that dealing illegal drugs is a community service. The laws are complete bullshit, no body with half a ounce of sense thinks they are socially useful, they are maintained for reasons of brute power and political lag. They are failing
https://www.vice.com/en/article/akgkwj/operation-trojan-shie...
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/08/world/australia/operation...
This is actually a very old method of getting criminals to cooperate with law enforcement.
The FBI used to do this with mob guys all the time in the 1980's. Show up, arrest them publicly, put out false newspaper articles saying he was close to flipping. He starts getting heat from the outfit and sooner or later, distrust is sown and suddenly he becomes a marked man. Word gets back to him they put a hit on him, or things get dicey with the underbosses and suddenly, he's like a cat in a cage with nowhere to go - so he turns on his associates in order to save his own life.
Cops used to do the same thing with low level drug dealers. Pressure them to flip on their supplier by pseudo arresting them, taking him away. They'd drive around a bit, then drop him off without cuffs in the middle of the neighborhood in broad daylight. Word gets around what happened, and suddenly the heat gets turned up because now he was seen getting out of a cop car with no cuffs? Must mean he's turned informant. Same thing, he gets too much heat and feels he needs to save himself and flips anyways.
Most criminals who engage in any kind of criminal activity are usually living dangerous lives as it is. Working with the mob? Drug dealing with Mexican cartels? Finance crimes with sketchy people like Jeffrey Epstein? Engaging in credit card fraud with Russian mobsters?
I would say a majority of profitable criminal activity involves dealing with some form of violence or violent people to begin with. Criminals know the inherit risk with what they do or who they're involved with.
Why is it ok that law enforcement get to decide what punishment a criminal should receive? You don't think that has a risk of trending society towards a police state where law enforcement power is not checked at all?
Innocent people getting thrown in jail happens. Say the police give this type of public exposure to an actually innocent person and that innocent person gets convicted. Say a newspaper article reports on the lie that the given innocent person was cooperating with police and that article is read by a big audience. That innocent person runs the risk of being murdered in jail because they have been marked as a snitch by law enforcement.
I doubt that Turkey would extradite her own citizen as well.
The Australian Federal Police premise that he would be safer from reprisals in prison is an extremely shaky one [1]
Although if they can cut him off from all funds, it might become true.
[1] edit: https://www.aic.gov.au/sites/default/files/2020-05/tandi103.... - "homicide rate ... is up to 7 times higher [than outside]"
I imagine the homicide rate is a wee bit higher than average for drug kingpins, particularly those seen to have ratted out 100+ people, even unintentionally.
This is based on assumption that a regular "free" person has not made thousands of criminals at the same time.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-08/fbi-afp-underworld-cr...
Apparently it revolved around duping Hakan Ayik, one of Australia's most wanted drug dealers now operating as an international kingpin from Turkey, to trust the app and recommend it to his associates. It's a double whammy, in that the network has been blown wide open and the AFP is now telling Ayik to hand himself in to avoid recriminations from his associates. No doubt there will be a movie about this one.