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Re:High-performance speech recognition with no supervision a... by skybrian on Friday May 21, 2021 @10:29PM (#27242760)
How does Facebook use speech recognition in its own products?
Re:High-performance speech recognition with no supervision a... by pesenti on Saturday May 22, 2021 @02:48AM (#27244151)
Our main usages of speech rec are:

- Understanding for videos for content moderation, ranking and recommendations

- Captioning

- Assistant tech in Portal, Oculus and upcoming glasses

Re:High-performance speech recognition with no supervision a... by croes on Saturday May 22, 2021 @03:00AM (#27244214)
And the not main usage?
Re:High-performance speech recognition with no supervision a... by xiphias2 on Saturday May 22, 2021 @05:37AM (#27244988)
For me the most scary part is not doing end-to-end encryption in Messenger, which means that the US government has a right to listen to my conversations on it.
Re:High-performance speech recognition with no supervision a... by bryan_w on Saturday May 22, 2021 @01:00PM (#27248314)
Not if you use secret conversation mode or just use whatsapp
Re:High-performance speech recognition with no supervision a... by goodcjw2 on Friday May 21, 2021 @11:40PM (#27243189)
A benevolent guess would be: It's probably related to their AR/VR effort. They are basically betting on AR/VR (incl Quest, Portal, etc) to be the next computing platform and voice input (also output) is a key user interaction model. IIRC, they are building a team to replicate Google Assistant and Siri.
Re:High-performance speech recognition with no supervision a... by yalok on Friday May 21, 2021 @10:46PM (#27242857)
e.g., transcription of live streaming events?
Re:High-performance speech recognition with no supervision a... by jschmitz28 on Friday May 21, 2021 @11:32PM (#27243150)
Makes sense - transcribing speech from all uploaded video seems like it would be valuable for identifying interests and serving more personalized advertisements.

For example, in a video taken at the beach where someone says “wow that looks fun” (in any language) and there is a boat in the frame, you could serve them boat ads.

Re:High-performance speech recognition with no supervision a... by joeyspn on Friday May 21, 2021 @11:36PM (#27243168)
Haven't you ever wondered if some mobile apps listen to you? And then you get accurate targeted ads...
Re:High-performance speech recognition with no supervision a... by joering2 on Saturday May 22, 2021 @02:07AM (#27243974)
People keep downvoting me, because "we need you to send a proof", but sorry I don't want to share Snowden's fate, but I know for fact IOS/Android, most TVs and major TV cable boxes (USA) are indeed analyzing your speech and sending back home _keywords_ from your conversations. I can imagine that's how they avoid being sued into oblivion for clear 4A violation, as metatags have been considered not a violation of your privacy by courts.

But go ahead, try it yourself! Have a conversation about having children with your loved one, next to your phones and your TV box, no online search required. Give it few hours and turn your Sling on, or browse some Amazon/Youtube. All of sudden you will see ads for products and companies you have never heard of, trying to sell you diapers or baby cribs. Where do you think it came from? Google, as of today, still is unable to read your mind.

Re:High-performance speech recognition with no supervision a... by KaiserPro on Saturday May 22, 2021 @04:25AM (#27244643)
Ok, for those that want proof, its pretty simple to do.

1) we know that sending voice data to "HQ" costs power

2) we know that live transcription costs a huge wedge of power

3) we know that wakeword matching is quite power efficient. (see https://rhasspy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/wake-word/, https://github.com/MycroftAI/mycroft-precise)

So, in a quite room we know that to save power and data, devices won't be streaming data/listening. We can use that as a baseline for power and network usage.

Then we can start talking, measure that

then start saying watchwords and see what happens.

That aside, we know that its really expensive to listen & transcribe 24/7. Its far easier and cheaper to monitor your web activity and surmise your intentions from that. There are quite a few searches/website visits that strongly correlate to life events. Humans are not as unique and random as you may think, especially to a machine with perfect memory.

Re:High-performance speech recognition with no supervision a... by joering2 on Saturday May 22, 2021 @01:38PM (#27248662)
Did you try the example I described at your home?

You not going to distinguish what people want to BUY from Google search as good as from conversation. When I google "Ferrari" it may mean I am looking for Ferrari wallpaper, Ferrari stats, Ferrari parts, or want to buy new Ferrari. When I have a conversation with someone about buying Ferrari, the conclusion IS I am ready to buy a Ferrari.

Re:High-performance speech recognition with no supervision a... by astrange on Saturday May 22, 2021 @03:56AM (#27244496)
They ain't doing shit. Voice assistants only listen for their built in trigger words, if you even turn that on, and they do what they say with the conversation afterwards.

4A doesn't matter anyway, what matters is GDPR, it's not worth building a system that is not GDPR compliant even if you're outside the EU.