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Re:Study finds alarming levels of ‘forever chemicals’ in US ... by tzs on Thursday May 13, 2021 @06:39AM (#27140626)
These chemicals are one of the main suspects in the decline in human sperm count and sperm quality over the last few decades in much of the world. From the early 1970s to the early 2010s, sperm counts declined about 60% in North America, Europe, Australia, and New Zealand.

Other main suspects are obesity, poor choice of diet, and I believe a few other things. They probably all contribute somewhat.

It's also possible that the chemicals have something to do with some of the other contributions.

For instance, the rise in obesity rates over the last few decades isn't just a human thing. I've seen some research that found that animals are getting fatter, too. This includes lab animals that are fed controlled diets, so it isn't just that fat humans are eating more, and so also have more scraps to toss to the pets.

This suggests some sort of hormonal change or disruption might be a significant factor in rising obesity, and when you look for candidate hormonal disruption sources that both humans and animals would be exposed to, those "forever chemicals" are going to be at the top of the list.

Re:Study finds alarming levels of ‘forever chemicals’ in US ... by whyoh on Thursday May 13, 2021 @08:47AM (#27141469)
>decline in human sperm count and sperm quality over the last few decades

Dogs too:

"Study demonstrates rapid decline in male dog fertility, with potential link to environmental contaminants"

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/08/160809095138.h...

Re:Study finds alarming levels of ‘forever chemicals’ in US ... by gruez on Thursday May 13, 2021 @07:58AM (#27141103)
> I've seen some research that found that animals are getting fatter, too. This includes lab animals that are fed controlled diets, so it isn't just that fat humans are eating more, and so also have more scraps to toss to the pets.

Source?

Re:Study finds alarming levels of ‘forever chemicals’ in US ... by tzs on Thursday May 13, 2021 @08:32AM (#27141354)
Re:Study finds alarming levels of ‘forever chemicals’ in US ... by musha68k on Thursday May 13, 2021 @07:01AM (#27140735)
In addition glyphosate (roundup) has been around since the early 1970s and is omnipresent in our food chain.

https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=7%2C39&q=gly...

Re:Study finds alarming levels of ‘forever chemicals’ in US ... by eggsmediumrare on Thursday May 13, 2021 @09:29AM (#27141832)
Yeah, but think of all the uniformly dandelion-free yards we got out of it.
Re:Study finds alarming levels of ‘forever chemicals’ in US ... by aweiland on Thursday May 13, 2021 @09:55AM (#27142114)
2,4-D is better for dandelions. Doesn't hurt the turf grass.
Re:Study finds alarming levels of ‘forever chemicals’ in US ... by eggsmediumrare on Thursday May 13, 2021 @12:35PM (#27144187)
My disdain for herbicides and pesticides is not limited to roundup.
Re:Study finds alarming levels of ‘forever chemicals’ in US ... by impostervt on Thursday May 13, 2021 @10:18AM (#27142342)
I know this is just anecdotal, but I've noticed an unusually large number of people I work with are having kids with developmental problems or who fall somewhere on the autism scale.
Re:Study finds alarming levels of ‘forever chemicals’ in US ... by cyberlurker on Thursday May 13, 2021 @10:30AM (#27142469)
I’ve read those are diagnosed more these days than in the past.
Re:Study finds alarming levels of ‘forever chemicals’ in US ... by sundbry on Friday May 14, 2021 @02:38PM (#27158085)
That's just b.s. to shove the issue under the rug. The truth is these kids are exposed to environmental toxins left, right, and center. Yes, 72 vaccines since the day you are born are part of the problem (the ingredients in these things go directly into your bloodstream) but not nearly the only factor.
Re:Study finds alarming levels of ‘forever chemicals’ in US ... by cyberlurker on Saturday May 15, 2021 @08:29PM (#27170187)
So which vaccines do you think are the problem?
Re:Study finds alarming levels of ‘forever chemicals’ in US ... by amelius on Thursday May 13, 2021 @07:23AM (#27140866)
Has anyone else noticed that men in old movies more often had "deep" voices than men in modern movies? Could this be related?
Re:Study finds alarming levels of ‘forever chemicals’ in US ... by SketchySeaBeast on Thursday May 13, 2021 @08:48AM (#27141477)
That's true, but if you look at old movies you'll see the men aren't in nearly the same good shape that men in modern movies are - if we used movies to determine what we think the population is like we'd assume there are way more 6 packs now.
Re:Study finds alarming levels of ‘forever chemicals’ in US ... by kingsuper20 on Thursday May 13, 2021 @10:37AM (#27142559)
It's tempting to view men from earlier eras as more manly, and may even be true, but besides fads in popular 'looks' another big difference was the near universal consumption of cigarettes earlier on.
Re:Study finds alarming levels of ‘forever chemicals’ in US ... by francisofascii on Thursday May 13, 2021 @07:36AM (#27140955)
Interesting observation, but this could simply be casting males with deep voices.
Re:Study finds alarming levels of ‘forever chemicals’ in US ... by float4 on Thursday May 13, 2021 @07:33AM (#27140941)
Wasn't that just caused by heavy smoking?
Re:Study finds alarming levels of ‘forever chemicals’ in US ... by astura on Thursday May 13, 2021 @08:40AM (#27141419)
Casting practices has changed drastically and there's been major increase in diversity of characters in movies/tv.

There's even been a huge increase in diversity of, ex, contestants on game shows/challenge shows.

There's just simply much, much more media made now too.

Re:Study finds alarming levels of ‘forever chemicals’ in US ... by jabroni_salad on Thursday May 13, 2021 @11:24AM (#27143153)
You can control for that with casting. I don't think it was until Ira Glass came around that we got away from it in radio.

Looking back even further, consider the influence of the electric microphone on music. It used to be that you had to be able to project to the entire room with your own power, but now many quieter varieties of voices are able to compete too.

Re:Study finds alarming levels of ‘forever chemicals’ in US ... by marliechiller on Thursday May 13, 2021 @07:57AM (#27141091)
maybe - could just be because smoking and drinking hard liquor was more prevalent back then also
Re:Study finds alarming levels of ‘forever chemicals’ in US ... by watwut on Thursday May 13, 2021 @08:01AM (#27141131)
Each culture has aesthetic preferences. What you see/hear in movies and art generally is not how average person looks like, but what people in that era want people to look like. Art books sometimes even have explicit advice on what kind of people you should draw so that people like looking at them.

tl,dr: deep voices in old movies are artefact of people liking deep voices back then.