Facebook's Trump ban upheld by Oversight Board, for now

Re:Facebook's Trump ban upheld by Oversight Board, for now by tw04 on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @10:54AM (#27050626)

There's a reason the statement "acting presidential" exists. We generally hold people in power to a higher standard in this country, and rightly so. "We need to fight against special interests" has no context. If the preceding 10 minutes was talking about the civil war - then yes I would be extremely concerned that the President went from talking about war to starting a "fight" with someone.

If the previous 10 minutes was talking about financial reforms, then IN CONTEXT, the president is talking about a very different kind of fight.

I have no time for people who try to dodge responsibility by claiming the context of a statement doesn't matter, on the flip side I have no time for someone who takes a one-sentence snippet out of context to try to hang someone out to dry either.

IMO that's the problem with what I can only describe as the 'twitter generation' we're currently experiencing. Everything is a 140 character snippet and context is completely lost or discarded.

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Re:Facebook's Trump ban upheld by Oversight Board, for now by oceanplexian on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @11:26AM (#27051112)

Presidents have always acted unpresidential but the difference is that Twitter and TV didn't exist then. Lincoln was notorious for using profanity, more than a few (Including Jackson) killed someone in a duel. While some presidents have been more controversial, and outspoken than others, the idea that there is a "well mannered" presidential archetype is a myth.

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Re:Facebook's Trump ban upheld by Oversight Board, for now by rrose on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @12:01PM (#27051647)

profanity isn't a real conduct issue, though, unless the president is using it in speeches or in diplomacy in such a way that it makes the country look bad.

and I doubt many people who dislike trump would accept jackson as an archetype of acceptable presidential behavior.

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Re:Facebook's Trump ban upheld by Oversight Board, for now by mc32 on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @01:39PM (#27053056)

I tend to agree but there are exceptions such as the Philippine foreign minister, Teddy Locsin, who told the Chinese Navy to "get the fuck out" of their waters via Twitter.

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Re:Facebook's Trump ban upheld by Oversight Board, for now by anotha1 on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @11:29AM (#27051172)

None of your examples are on a public stage for a mass audience.

It's different.

What you say to the crowd has distinctly different impact than what you say "in the locker room" to an acquaintance.

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Re:Facebook's Trump ban upheld by Oversight Board, for now by dylan604 on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @11:50AM (#27051459)

But if you then brag about your locker room conversation to a journalist while on the record, that then become in the public stage.

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Re:Facebook's Trump ban upheld by Oversight Board, for now by rrose on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @12:03PM (#27051662)

also, the issue with the access hollywood tapes wasn't that it was "locker room talk" that got public, it was that what he said was morally pretty disgusting. people were mad about what he said, not the manner or forum in which he said it

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Re:Facebook's Trump ban upheld by Oversight Board, for now by alexilliamson on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @12:43PM (#27052251)

He was bragging about sexually assaulting women. That is a very bad and very mean thing, and has nothing to do with the "democrat" protests.

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Re:Facebook's Trump ban upheld by Oversight Board, for now by newfriend on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @02:40PM (#27053928)

Except he wasn't bragging about that. He was bragging that groupies exist and that they would "let him do it" because he's a star, in a crass manner.

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Re:Facebook's Trump ban upheld by Oversight Board, for now by bko on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @11:13AM (#27050930)

> There's a reason the statement "acting presidential" exists. We generally hold people in power to a higher standard in this country, and rightly so

When did "we" turn into the current governing structure of Facebook?

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Re:Facebook's Trump ban upheld by Oversight Board, for now by dylan604 on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @11:50AM (#27051466)

Exactly. The product never gets a say in what is done to/with it.

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Re:Facebook's Trump ban upheld by Oversight Board, for now by the-dude on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @11:16AM (#27050966)

They hate our freedoms led to 20 years of war.

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Re:Facebook's Trump ban upheld by Oversight Board, for now by CyberDildonics on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @12:13PM (#27051809)

It didn't lead to 20 years of war, it was used to sell 20 years of war.

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Re:Facebook's Trump ban upheld by Oversight Board, for now by the-dude on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @12:17PM (#27051877)

I stand corrected! You are absolutely right, wrong choice of words.

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Re:Facebook's Trump ban upheld by Oversight Board, for now by panzagl on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @01:09PM (#27052624)

Acting presidential went out with the Clinton administration- it was widely commented on at the time (see the commentary around him appearing on Arsenio Hall), but the media loved the cachet/ attention too much to let it get beyond the Sunday morning talking head shows.

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Re:Facebook's Trump ban upheld by Oversight Board, for now by Rapzid on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @01:29PM (#27052907)

I spend too much time on r/politics.. It's mostly people getting outraged together about contextless headlines, quotes, soundbites, articles, and etc. Mostly.

It happens here too. cough basecamp cough.

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