In that specific case I think they probably had better ideas than Google?

Then again, as you pointed out, you could also make the case that they weren't properly compensated.

As for SV, it’s not that simple, it seems — most emigrants that I know either got job at something like Swiss Google after building a solid resume here or got into some academic program (PhD or postdoc) abroad.

Besides insane US visa policies?

Diversity and inclusion programs at most companies tend to focus on every demographic bias except for the bamboo ceiling.

Not sure if that's what I remember, but here is a Wired article: https://www.wired.com/2012/11/zeta-radio/

Edit: of course I'm not implying that Huawei does this...

because it feels kinda differently when you want to buy $competitor's top people

I would guess that at least 70% of people on here voted for Trump. Say anything negative about China and you get instantly upvoted. Anything positive about China or even slightly negative about the US and you get downvoted.

There is no logical way to compare the Chinese government with any other government from the west. People in China aren’t free and can’t do anything unless the CCP dictators let them.

Imagine insulting the CCP leaders the way everybody does in television in the US to their own government. You’d had the military involved and everybody would disappear and get ‘re-educated’ or murdered.

And, btw, I don’t think the Chinese steal, I think they mostly copy.

I'm Chinese, I feel assaulted when westerners say anything closer to it, how brainwashed they are and how corrupted your media is. The truth is, human are the same, China is huge, nothing is perfect, but of course people are free living in China, if the government corrupted, there are various way to report, and the local leaders got banished if found evidence valid, the reality is, the government is doing good for its people, if you shouting out lies and creating chaos in public, you will be stopped and condemned first by Chinese people, and any government in the world would be standing out, as it's their duty to do so.

While people here only want to hear what they want to hear, no matter how I explained, it seems pointless, just one last comments, I'm here because I have free life in China, and I have opportunities to study, work freely, less politics, more about myself development, and studying abroad, learning to be open, cooperate with people, respect different culture, and don't make any comments on something that I don't know/understand, put peace ahead, if you are rich and strong, its your responsibility to help the weak and poor, otherwise, take good care of yourself etc. You see, those values are taught and advocated widely and are the basics in any education level in China, and this won't happen without a government guide its people. Anyway, please next time when you read news(mainly media from USA, and its allies, UK, Canada, AUS) about China, just pause a second, and think with your own mind, don't take everything they say, that's it.

It's funny you mention how free you are while having to use a VPN for most internet applications (I collaborate with people in China and it's very hard to communicate sometimes, the only way to use Whatsapp is through a VPN and they don't have on 100% of the time). Can you use Google, for example? Are you free to choose which app you use? Apple censors apps because the CCP ask them to. Can you criticize your own government (not really "own" government given that you can't even choose it!) without retaliation from the government?

Funny how you think you are free when you are only allowed to do what an authoritarian and dictatorial government allows you to do. Even Winnie the Pooh is banned in China...

In China, people have freedom from being infected by COVID. They have freedom from assault; streets are very safe even at night, even for women. They have freedom to consume alcohol publicly. They have freedom from being shot. They have freedom from homelessness. They have freedom from being attacked by the police; contrary to what many people expect, Chinese police is very nice and don't carry guns, and people don't fear them. Not all western countries have these kinds of freedoms, or have them to the same level as China.

China today is freer than it has ever been in the past 3000 years. In the past, everything was at the whim of the emperor. 100 years ago, everything was at the whims of foreign imperialists, who drugged people, looted treasures and stole land as they pleased. 40 years ago, Chinese people could not choose what to wear, where to work, what to study, where to travel.

40 years ago, everybody was poor. With the massive, industrial-scale poverty alleviation efforts that western media somehow doesn't like reporting on, Chinese now have freedom from poverty, which very few countries have. When you are poor, you are not free, no matter how much you can criticize the president.

All of this has changed. The past 30 years are literally the best in the past 3000 years. Chinese are freer than they have ever been.

Furthermore, China isn't even a dictatorship or totalitarian. China is a political meritocracy. See this interview with professor Daniel A Bell: https://youtu.be/D_ZzlPoapB4

Particularly at 13:30 he explains why it makes no sense to lump China together with the likes of Saudi Arabia or North Korea.

Usually, when people criticize China for being 'a totalitarian dictatorship', it is because they want to confirm their preconceived notions about China as a bad place, rather than because their statements are 100% based on facts.

Since you're Latin American, maybe you should listen to what this fellow Latin American has to say about freedom in China. He lives in China. https://youtu.be/RFRIRaj1QvE

I've been encountering too many armchair strategic commanders lately. I hope it's just an artifact from the post elections unification. Must be easy planning doom and gloom when it's not gonna be on your doorstep I suppose..

This is incredibly overblown. What's much more likely is that you'll be low-key harassed until you stop, unless you are literally trying to start a revolution. That really isn't all that different to what will happen when you harass your own government. It's not pleasant or right, but it's not a thing that happens in only one place.

> something genocidal

There are conflicts in the balkanised countries that are relatively recent (think the last 10-30 years) that when everything was over ended up with tribunals over what is essentially genocide. What you'd term "democratic governments from western countries" were the main driving factor in what went down.

I will I guess just politely not mention what the US does every single day for absolutely no good reason, because other people have already done so.

You can find old and relatively new evidence of wrongdoing on every powerful country, because that's fundamentally what they do no matter how the leaders came to power.

China does all those things today. Your point makes no sense whatsoever.

This was just 40-50 years ago, and the effects remain today

The US jail population is 2 M, China, 1.5 M. It's little stuff like this that make the US look worse than China.

Be sure that once China is finished killing Uyghur they will say that's an old story like ... hum ... the US. So yeah continue justify crimes, just remember one day, it could be your turn.

Beyond that, I don't see why we should excuse past crimes. All that motivates is for future crimes to be done faster so that the moral high ground can be restored then.

By the way if you interested the US is STILL in Irak, Donald Trump PARDON the CEO of Blackwater, US is supporting the war in Yemen, look it up it goes on and on....