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Re:Unsplash is being acquired by Getty Images by dbrgn on Tuesday March 30, 2021 @10:20AM (#26634884)
This reminds me of 500px. I used to be a huge fan of 500px. It was the most beautiful photography site on the internet, designed with attention to every tiny detail. It allowed you to share your photos under a CC license, presented them beautifully and had fantastic curated feeds with photos by fantastic photographers.

In 2018 they were acquired by an investor company and partnered exclusively with Getty. As a contributor, you were now pushed to "earn money with your pictures", CC licenses were discouraged and (I think) eventually removed. The site stopped getting optimized for aesthetics, it was now getting optimized for selling stock photos. I deleted all my photos and left.

I hope this doesn't happen to Unsplash. But I'm not optimistic.

Re:Unsplash is being acquired by Getty Images by rpdillon on Tuesday March 30, 2021 @11:33AM (#26635797)
Reading through the press release, this really stood out:

> In 2016, we first met the Getty Images team. We weren’t sure they would see the world the same way we did given their business was largely built on licensing. Over years of conversations, however, we learned about the level of respect they had for the Unsplash community and the rights of creators to choose how and where their imagery is made available.

While this is written as though they had initially misunderstood Getty, it doesn't clarify at all how things have evolved. My unvarnished reading is "We were worried about Getty because they're all about copyright, but after talking for years, we've learned they're really all about copyright."

After reading this, I think your lack of optimism is warranted.

Re:Unsplash is being acquired by Getty Images by tertius on Tuesday March 30, 2021 @12:22PM (#26636594)
> "We were worried about Getty because they're all about copyright, but after talking for years and waiting for our daily uniques to grow, they've agreed to our terms re: valuation."

FIFY

Re:Unsplash is being acquired by Getty Images by fastball on Tuesday March 30, 2021 @06:07PM (#26641181)
> "We were worried that selling are souls to the copyright czars would not be worth it, but after eating in to their business for years they've finally made us an offer we can't refuse."
Re:Unsplash is being acquired by Getty Images by ljm on Tuesday March 30, 2021 @12:22PM (#26636602)
The cynic in me says that they were just beaten into submission and after 5 years they said 'fuck it', because they weren't getting any better offers.
Re:Unsplash is being acquired by Getty Images by lovedswain on Tuesday March 30, 2021 @12:49PM (#26637000)
The quoted paragraph reminds me of something I once read from a blog post by the WhatsApp team
Re:Unsplash is being acquired by Getty Images by KingOfCoders on Wednesday March 31, 2021 @01:49AM (#26643939)
I read it more like "The plan was from the beginning to exit to Getty so we had talks early on"
Re:Unsplash is being acquired by Getty Images by mwambua on Tuesday March 30, 2021 @01:35PM (#26637631)
> the rights of creators to choose how and where their imagery is made available

I didn't know that there's any way to control where the images show up. Isn't it just a free-for-all on Unsplash?

Re:Unsplash is being acquired by Getty Images by benatkin on Tuesday March 30, 2021 @04:26PM (#26639988)
It was when I read this that I thought of Elsevier.

I'm not sure why I thought of them right then. I suppose the connection was forming in my mind while I was reading the preceding sentences. Going to elsevier.com I see this though:

"How Elsevier supports Open Access"

We're not bad, we're just misunderstood!

Re:Unsplash is being acquired by Getty Images by teryyy on Tuesday March 30, 2021 @10:32AM (#26635021)
https://www.pexels.com/ is another similar site, owned by Canva which seems to have kept its quality through the years.
Re:Unsplash is being acquired by Getty Images by anthropodie on Tuesday March 30, 2021 @11:35AM (#26635830)
Someone mentioned yet another alternative which I have used previously but had completely forgotten

https://pixabay.com

Re:Unsplash is being acquired by Getty Images by sdoering on Tuesday March 30, 2021 @04:35PM (#26640090)
I switched to pixabay from unsplash when looking for stock images for presentations. Nowadays I nearly never use unsplash. Maybe because I don't look for landscape that much.

Because unsplash actually made my desktop backgrounds look good.

Re:Unsplash is being acquired by Getty Images by minxomat on Tuesday March 30, 2021 @10:44AM (#26635172)
Pexels is the best community for people who want to share their photos/videos (CC0). It's the worst community for monetising that in any way.
Re:Unsplash is being acquired by Getty Images by dbrgn on Tuesday March 30, 2021 @10:50AM (#26635254)
> It's the worst community for monetising that in any way.

That sounds fantastic, I'll take a look!

Edit: It's not CC0 though, right? The Pexels License looks similar to the Unsplash License.

Re:Unsplash is being acquired by Getty Images by dannyw on Tuesday March 30, 2021 @11:27AM (#26635712)
(Disclosure: I work for Canva)

You are allowed to do anything with Pexels photos, except 4 conditions listed on the plain English licensing page: https://www.pexels.com/license/

In short, • don’t portray identifiable people in a bad way • don’t sell unaltered, make a change first • don’t imply endorsement • don’t redistribute on other sites.

Commercial use is perfectly fine. You don’t need to attribute, but our photographers (and we) prefer it.

Re:Unsplash is being acquired by Getty Images by ipsum2 on Tuesday March 30, 2021 @05:28PM (#26640775)
> don’t portray identifiable people in a bad way

Not a lawyer, but this is so arbitrary that any sensible company wouldn't touch Pexels. What is considered bad? If the person is put next to some junk food? Cigarettes? An abortion clinic ad? Oil company?

This is the same issue with the No Evil license: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Crockford#%22Good,_not...

Re:Unsplash is being acquired by Getty Images by huskyr on Wednesday March 31, 2021 @02:56AM (#26644253)
Yup, this is also why Wikimedia Commons doesn't allow Pexels as a source: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Bad_sources#Pexel...
Re:Unsplash is being acquired by Getty Images by Qub3d on Wednesday March 31, 2021 @09:31AM (#26647034)
The link you provide says Wikimedia Commons doesn't allow Pexels because of the non-commercial clause. It says nothing about the morality clause.
Re:Unsplash is being acquired by Getty Images by nitrogen on Tuesday March 30, 2021 @05:54PM (#26641071)
If you really need a picture of a human, you could just...get that person's permission instead of whining about free not being "free."
Re:Unsplash is being acquired by Getty Images by busymom0 on Tuesday March 30, 2021 @06:11PM (#26641227)
I don't see it as whining. These companies are in the business of providing photos for people to be able to use. If their TOS is so vague that one simply cannot use any photos without knowing what the TOS allows or not - then the core purpose of the company has failed.

If FB and others are to be used as an example, these TOS are written vague and broad on purpose.

Re:Unsplash is being acquired by Getty Images by dannyw on Tuesday March 30, 2021 @10:36PM (#26642939)
We appreciate the feedback, and will discuss internally to see if we can make this clause more specific and objective.
Re:Unsplash is being acquired by Getty Images by dbrgn on Thursday April 01, 2021 @08:30AM (#26659612)
Clauses like that are really really hard. CC has the NC clause, which is problematic because it may not be clear what consists of commercial use and what doesn't. If a non-profit uses a picture for a fundraiser, is that commercial or not?

The thing that one of the parent comments suggested would actually be quite cool: An alternative license where the "applicants" could ask for permission to use a picture, stating how they will use it. If the author accepts (using a 1-button click), a license will automatically be granted. Everything would still remain free though. And certain use-cases could be allowed automatically (e.g. "personal use" or "use for a non-profit").

It would remove ambiguities (because an explicit permission is granted), but everyting would still remain royalty-free. Plus, the authors would learn how their photos are being used. (I'm happy to give out photos for free, but I'm also happy if people tell me where they're being used.)

Re:Unsplash is being acquired by Getty Images by tareqak on Wednesday March 31, 2021 @06:59AM (#26645712)
I would actually argue that this situation is a case of a unserved need/business idea: a site with stock photos of people where it is possible for a potential user/buyer to negotiate what a particular photo would be used for with the person who’s photo is taken.

In my mind, it is similar with how I ask for references: I ask people who I think would be a good reference for me if they are willing to do so, but I also ask permission again them each time I need a reference for a given company. If there is going to be a number of companies reaching out, then I combine/bucket a number of requests into one e.g. “Three companies need me to provide them with a reference, so could I please ask your permission for those three companies”.

Yes, there is more going on in the case of copyrighted photos, but facilitating communication is one of the reasons the Internet exists.

Re:Unsplash is being acquired by Getty Images by dannyw on Wednesday April 07, 2021 @03:51PM (#26730203)
Hey Ipsum2, I want to say thank you for your feedback.

We discussed internally and will remove this clause from our license. Will be updating it soon :)

Re:Unsplash is being acquired by Getty Images by rustc on Tuesday March 30, 2021 @03:09PM (#26638965)
Actual answer for GP: no, it's not CC0.
Re:Unsplash is being acquired by Getty Images by imagequeen on Wednesday March 31, 2021 @12:10AM (#26643426)
With this acquisition, there are no independent free photo sites anymore! Maybe free photo time is up?
Re:Unsplash is being acquired by Getty Images by shawn81 on Wednesday March 31, 2021 @06:56AM (#26645680)
Vecteezy.com is still independently owned :)
Re:Unsplash is being acquired by Getty Images by moeedm on Tuesday March 30, 2021 @01:48PM (#26637841)
That’s the business of stock photos. Unsplash managed to stick around because they provided free high quality images that were more “real” looking than stock photos. It was supported by ads, which I’m sure kept the site running but when Getty knocks on your door and offers to buy you out ... it’s hard to say no.

The cycle will continue. In its place there will be a new Unsplash which will offer the same + a bit more until it gets bought out too.

Re:Unsplash is being acquired by Getty Images by levifig on Wednesday March 31, 2021 @06:27AM (#26645519)
To be clear, Unsplash never provided images: they created a website that accepted user submissions, that's it. All content in Unsplash is user generated.

What bothers me about this sale is exactly this: Unsplash cashed in on their user submissions without guaranteeing their users (and use!) would be protected and perpetuated.

This is equivalent of me building a little lemonade stand, inviting a neighbor that makes a good lemonade but doesn't have a very visible stand to come give away their lemonade on my stand, and then selling the entire stand (with lemonade) to Lemonade Store down the street.

Re:Unsplash is being acquired by Getty Images by vertis on Wednesday March 31, 2021 @09:50AM (#26647260)
I wrote a bunch of articles for a community blog/magazine a while back that had a lot of others in the community doing the same thing. Then the "owner" turned around and sold it to some nameless person that wanted to profit from it.

She patted herself on the back and moved onto building another community thing. I removed my articles and moved on.

It's a real shame, she's very talented, but I struggle to engage with any of her work now because I keep looking for where she's going to try and profit from community participation.

I wish her no ill, but it was a reminder to not treat things as a not-for-profit if they don't have clear governance to back that up.

Re:Unsplash is being acquired by Getty Images by toomuchtodo on Wednesday March 31, 2021 @12:30PM (#26649302)
The original image licenses still apply even through an acquisition, no? With regards to perpetuated, we can stick them in the Internet Archive.
Re:Unsplash is being acquired by Getty Images by glenstein on Tuesday March 30, 2021 @08:32PM (#26642219)
Unfortunate but I think you are very right. For my part, I very much do want to find the next Unplash, with a good F-droid app to look at wonderful free high quality images. I'm ready to ride whatever the next wave is in this cycle.
Re:Unsplash is being acquired by Getty Images by StavrosK on Tuesday March 30, 2021 @10:24AM (#26634934)
Oh man, 500px used to be amazing. The photos were just beautiful. As you say, it died at some point (the quality started declining and they pushed some user-hostile stuff) and I never went back.
Re:Unsplash is being acquired by Getty Images by Cthulhu_ on Tuesday March 30, 2021 @10:43AM (#26635159)
It just reaffirms that one should not put all money on one horse, and to keep a copy of all of your work under your own management. With photography that's manageable, with e.g. youtube that can become challenging if you're a prolific video maker (especially nowadays with 4K, even 8K video footage).

Anyway, always have an exit.

Re:Unsplash is being acquired by Getty Images by etrautmann on Tuesday March 30, 2021 @10:50AM (#26635259)
I’m not sure I follow? Storing a rendered final copy of your work is not prohibitively expensive given the cost of local storage, and is small in comparison to the raw footage which most creators presumably don’t just delete?
Re:Unsplash is being acquired by Getty Images by michaelt on Tuesday March 30, 2021 @11:53AM (#26636115)
For a lot of casual photographers, the version on their phone is the original and the version in the cloud is the backup. And if they run out of space on their phone, they delete the original.

Of course, to professional and semi-professional photographers, such a haphazard approach would be unimaginable :)

Re:Unsplash is being acquired by Getty Images by anthropodie on Tuesday March 30, 2021 @11:11AM (#26635517)
I am guessing OP is not referring to images per se but platform. For example, if you have all your 10K followers only on Instagram, you should definitely have exit like owning your own blog. Your followers should at least have a place to find you in case you loose access to Instagram for some reason.
Re:Unsplash is being acquired by Getty Images by pferde on Tuesday March 30, 2021 @10:54AM (#26635309)
pixelfed.org is another great platform - and it's powered by ActivityPub, so you can host your own and federate it with others.
Re:Unsplash is being acquired by Getty Images by dbrgn on Tuesday March 30, 2021 @10:55AM (#26635324)
I can warmly recommend Pixelfed, it would be great to get some talented photographers on board.

However, it's more like Instagram and not really suited for uploading a high-quality high-resolution portfolio. It's also not really suited for finding photos for a project.

Re:Unsplash is being acquired by Getty Images by pferde on Wednesday March 31, 2021 @06:05AM (#26645388)
Yes, that is true, although it all depends on what content people update, and how well they tag their photos.

I can easily imagine a pixelfed instance dedicated to sharing high-quality stock photos, with strict rules about photo quality, and how to post and tag the photos.

Re:Unsplash is being acquired by Getty Images by tomcooks on Tuesday March 30, 2021 @04:20PM (#26639898)
If only the server wasn't as demanding, it's a beautiful project and there are plenty of clients that experience-wise are similar to Instagram
Re:Unsplash is being acquired by Getty Images by postit on Tuesday March 30, 2021 @01:18PM (#26637402)
Sad to hear. I just deleted all my photos from there and closed my account.
Re:Unsplash is being acquired by Getty Images by datavirtue on Tuesday March 30, 2021 @08:48PM (#26642323)
But, but....the CEO showered them in flattering praise. Everything is going to be wonderful.

We should just throw anti-trust out the window. It's a mess.

Re:Unsplash is being acquired by Getty Images by passivate on Tuesday March 30, 2021 @12:45PM (#26636933)
IMHO, it is hard to run a sustainable business around sharing pictures.
Re:Unsplash is being acquired by Getty Images by Boltgolt on Tuesday March 30, 2021 @01:20PM (#26637436)
And then there's Instagram, who only did square photos and nothing else for years
Re:Unsplash is being acquired by Getty Images by goldenchrome on Tuesday March 30, 2021 @02:30PM (#26638417)
I think you're misrepresenting Instagram. Instagram is a personal PR platform where images are the primary vehicle. In that sense Instagram is closer to Twitter (text-based PR dissemination) than Unsplash.
Re:Unsplash is being acquired by Getty Images by mkr-hn on Tuesday March 30, 2021 @10:47PM (#26642990)
Unsplash mostly served two groups:

1: people who uploaded as lead generation for professional photography, or some other product or service

2: people who just thought it was cool when someone used one of their photos

The only difference between it and Instagram is Unsplash didn't allow text images or videos.

Re:Unsplash is being acquired by Getty Images by goldenchrome on Friday April 02, 2021 @11:02PM (#26678110)
I guess because this is Hacker News, you're technically correct. From an engineering perspective, you're right that the two platforms share many similarities. But from a business perspective they're completely different. Instagram is where normal people go to show off their life and absorb the lives of others via images. Unsplash is for photographers and consumers of stock photography. As a result of these differences, they have completely different business models, user experiences, and growth trajectories.
Re:Unsplash is being acquired by Getty Images by pmlnr on Tuesday March 30, 2021 @02:31PM (#26638429)
500px also disabled it's API when this happened.
Re:Unsplash is being acquired by Getty Images by dalbasal on Tuesday March 30, 2021 @11:57AM (#26636176)
To me, this feels like such a new/old media clash point.
Re:Unsplash is being acquired by Getty Images by imagequeen on Wednesday March 31, 2021 @12:08AM (#26643419)
Have you seen www.scop.io they focus on diverse artists and have a great community @scopioimages