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Re:Is that ship still stuck? by londons_explore on Thursday March 25, 2021 @05:56PM (#26585984)
Kind of amazing that in 48 hours, an event happens that threatens one of Egypts major income streams and political power sources, and the maximum they can spare is 2 bulldozers...

Like why not call in the army, rent every bulldozer in the district, and within 12 hours you'll have 30 on site and be able to move a lot of sand quickly to free it?

Re:Is that ship still stuck? by tibbydudeza on Thursday March 25, 2021 @06:40PM (#26586534)
I watch Gold Rush and one of the prospectors use a massive Volvo excavator that makes those two tiny ones they use in Suez look like tinker toys.

I think they have no idea at this moment as the tugs can't get it done.

Re:Is that ship still stuck? by Aperocky on Thursday March 25, 2021 @08:44PM (#26587598)
The (wo)man hour myth.

In all fairness, all the excavator in the world probably won't solve the problem, because they have to sit on land, but the ship cuts deep.

Re:Is that ship still stuck? by tim333 on Friday March 26, 2021 @05:19AM (#26590143)
I don't think the "2 bulldozers" was a serious plan. Just what they happened to have nearby where someone thought to give it a go.
Re:Is that ship still stuck? by gregoriol on Thursday March 25, 2021 @06:13PM (#26586208)
It's probably not easy to dig with excavators into the canal: they likely won't reach far enough
Re:Is that ship still stuck? by dahfizz on Thursday March 25, 2021 @11:10PM (#26588394)
> Like why not call in the army, rent every bulldozer in the district, and within 12 hours you'll have 30 on site and be able to move a lot of sand quickly to free it?

Because that would all be a tremendous waste of money, and would not get the ship any closer to being free.

Re:Is that ship still stuck? by luxuryballs on Thursday March 25, 2021 @07:40PM (#26587073)
Is it possible someone is blocking the canal on purpose? For some geopolitical reason maybe.
Re:Is that ship still stuck? by secfirstmd on Thursday March 25, 2021 @08:24PM (#26587451)
Re:Is that ship still stuck? by luxuryballs on Friday March 26, 2021 @02:29PM (#26595289)
Yeah but still doesn’t change the probability of it being on purpose or not.
Re:Is that ship still stuck? by markdown on Thursday March 25, 2021 @08:54PM (#26587665)
Maybe someone on WSB who's built up a massive short-sell position.
Re:Is that ship still stuck? by imtringued on Friday March 26, 2021 @09:00AM (#26591585)
Didn't most of them get in at 200-300? It's below that now.
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Re:Is that ship still stuck? by neither_color on Thursday March 25, 2021 @09:49PM (#26587976)
That’s not fairness. Chinese expatriates bought up a lot of the world’s stock of masks early on when the pandemic was limited to China. Also, ventilator shortages ended up not being a thing. Keep up. The world is not as simple as “America bad.”
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Re:Is that ship still stuck? by tjs8rj on Thursday March 25, 2021 @07:38PM (#26587051)
Why? Out of malice and ignorance? No other country in the world ramped up masks immediately. People put too much stock in the presidency, a position held for 8 years max, and too little stock in the massive systems decades, or hundreds+ years old with incredible inertia that are really responsible for 90% of what happens in the world.
Re:Is that ship still stuck? by samcheng on Thursday March 25, 2021 @08:49PM (#26587627)
Taiwan, for example, definitely DID ramp up mask production immediately after understanding COVID-19's threat.

https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3924318

The government there commissioned a "national mask team" task force... so there is some credence to the "poor governance" argument in the US.

Re:Is that ship still stuck? by balletto on Thursday March 25, 2021 @09:03PM (#26587726)
Surgical masks as noted in the article, not N-95 masks which require the specialized equipment and materials.
Re:Is that ship still stuck? by samcheng on Thursday March 25, 2021 @10:53PM (#26588312)
Correct.

Turns out blanketing the population with surgical masks, which are designed to block the sputum coughed into the air by a sick person, is an effective tactic against a respiratory disease!

Re:Is that ship still stuck? by rasz on Friday March 26, 2021 @01:28AM (#26589009)
Just look at those idiot nerds, making surgical masks HAHA. They didnt get the Fauci memo about masks being useless

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/taiwan/

Deaths: 10

Re:Is that ship still stuck? by tjs8rj on Friday March 26, 2021 @09:47AM (#26592082)
Sure, and at this same time Europe still hadn’t, Nancy Pelosi was telling everyone to come party with her in SF Chinatown, Biden was still running campaign events, and the CDC was saying masks are ineffective.

Most people didn’t realize how bad covid was going to get, even the experts.

Re:Is that ship still stuck? by mensetmanusman on Thursday March 25, 2021 @08:09PM (#26587335)
Nope, only Germany had the fiber machines, the reason they take a year to build is the global supply chain is so distributed, and you have to build many parts in series.
Re:Is that ship still stuck? by imtringued on Friday March 26, 2021 @09:02AM (#26591611)
It's almost been a year and I don't see an end for masks in sight (even with vaccines). Anyone who didn't put money into more production of masks is just greedy. It certainly wasn't a matter of time.
Re:Is that ship still stuck? by mensetmanusman on Friday March 26, 2021 @01:26PM (#26594683)
They are, it just takes a year or so to build these mech/chem tech ology machines when the specialized work force is so small and the training takes so long for knowledge transfer... this flows all the way down to high purity polypropylene sourcing itself.
Re:Is that ship still stuck? by eliseumds on Thursday March 25, 2021 @06:07PM (#26586126)
They know they have a monopoly. There are no viable alternative routes, so they just don't care enough.
Re:Is that ship still stuck? by ceejayoz on Thursday March 25, 2021 @06:23PM (#26586346)
Sure there is. It's about to be busier than usual.

https://imgur.com/a/nu0CNPi

Re:Is that ship still stuck? by sn41 on Thursday March 25, 2021 @11:16PM (#26588424)
Historically, isn't that a "stormier" route? As the euphemism "Cape of Good Hope" replaced the "Cape of Storms".

Also, I think shipping is about to get more expensive, I guess.

Re:Is that ship still stuck? by adwn on Friday March 26, 2021 @01:37AM (#26589052)
> Historically, isn't that a "stormier" route?

I'm no expert, but I think it makes a huge difference whether you're in a flimsy, wooden ship with even flimsier sails made of cloth, or in a 400m long, extremely massive steel vessel with a reliable internal combustion engine.

Re:Is that ship still stuck? by ryathal on Friday March 26, 2021 @10:59AM (#26592936)
Vs. storms at sea it's not a major difference, and if anything the sail boat is in better shape. The real advantage is accurate weather reports to avoid the worst of it.
Re:Is that ship still stuck? by adwn on Friday March 26, 2021 @11:29AM (#26593270)
> if anything the sail boat is in better shape

Why? That sounds implausible. Firstly, the larger a ship, the less affected it is by waves. Secondly, high winds will shred your sails, but without sails it's hard to maneuver .

Re:Is that ship still stuck? by sn41 on Friday March 26, 2021 @08:32PM (#26598628)
The problem with Ever Given was exactly the "sail area", since it was a big boat [1]. You can check videos of container ships in storms on Youtube.

[1] https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/engineering/sail-area

Re:Is that ship still stuck? by adwn on Saturday March 27, 2021 @01:14AM (#26600102)
I did. They seem to be doing fine, even in waves which could have swallowed an entire sailing ship.
Re:Is that ship still stuck? by londons_explore on Thursday March 25, 2021 @06:30PM (#26586429)
If I were South Africa, I would announce a tax on passing within 100 miles of their shore for commercial shipping...
Re:Is that ship still stuck? by stereo on Thursday March 25, 2021 @07:49PM (#26587150)
Territorial waters extend 12 nautical miles (22 km) from a coastline.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Convention_on_t...

Re:Is that ship still stuck? by khuey on Thursday March 25, 2021 @09:52PM (#26588001)
Also this would be innocent passage anyways.
Re:Is that ship still stuck? by boc on Thursday March 25, 2021 @09:13PM (#26587780)
And that's how you'd get a nice, friendly visit from the Sixth Fleet.
Re:Is that ship still stuck? by yellowapple on Friday March 26, 2021 @03:27AM (#26589600)
"Knock knock. It's the United States. With huge boats. With guns. Gunboats."
Re:Is that ship still stuck? by NickNameNick on Friday March 26, 2021 @03:56AM (#26589718)
The US navy has a proud tradition of gunboat diplomacy going back at least as far as commodore Perry and the opening of japan.
Re:Is that ship still stuck? by yellowapple on Friday March 26, 2021 @04:29AM (#26589903)
That's indeed the reference, yep: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Mh5LY4Mz15o
Re:Is that ship still stuck? by dragonwriter on Thursday March 25, 2021 @07:54PM (#26587199)
Well, that would trigger some Freedom of Navigation Operations.
Re:Is that ship still stuck? by imtringued on Friday March 26, 2021 @09:04AM (#26591624)
If I were South Africa I would make sure that this route is as attractive as possible.
Re:Is that ship still stuck? by umanwizard on Friday March 26, 2021 @07:17AM (#26590739)
That would be illegal and if they attempted to enforce it they would be engaging in piracy.