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Re:Is that ship still stuck? by ceejayoz on Thursday March 25, 2021 @06:23PM (#26586346)
Sure there is. It's about to be busier than usual.

https://imgur.com/a/nu0CNPi

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Re:Is that ship still stuck? by sn41 on Thursday March 25, 2021 @11:16PM (#26588424)
Historically, isn't that a "stormier" route? As the euphemism "Cape of Good Hope" replaced the "Cape of Storms".

Also, I think shipping is about to get more expensive, I guess.

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Re:Is that ship still stuck? by adwn on Friday March 26, 2021 @01:37AM (#26589052)
> Historically, isn't that a "stormier" route?

I'm no expert, but I think it makes a huge difference whether you're in a flimsy, wooden ship with even flimsier sails made of cloth, or in a 400m long, extremely massive steel vessel with a reliable internal combustion engine.

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Re:Is that ship still stuck? by ryathal on Friday March 26, 2021 @10:59AM (#26592936)
Vs. storms at sea it's not a major difference, and if anything the sail boat is in better shape. The real advantage is accurate weather reports to avoid the worst of it.
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Re:Is that ship still stuck? by adwn on Friday March 26, 2021 @11:29AM (#26593270)
> if anything the sail boat is in better shape

Why? That sounds implausible. Firstly, the larger a ship, the less affected it is by waves. Secondly, high winds will shred your sails, but without sails it's hard to maneuver .

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Re:Is that ship still stuck? by sn41 on Friday March 26, 2021 @08:32PM (#26598628)
The problem with Ever Given was exactly the "sail area", since it was a big boat [1]. You can check videos of container ships in storms on Youtube.

[1] https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/engineering/sail-area

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Re:Is that ship still stuck? by adwn on Saturday March 27, 2021 @01:14AM (#26600102)
I did. They seem to be doing fine, even in waves which could have swallowed an entire sailing ship.
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Re:Is that ship still stuck? by londons_explore on Thursday March 25, 2021 @06:30PM (#26586429)
If I were South Africa, I would announce a tax on passing within 100 miles of their shore for commercial shipping...
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Re:Is that ship still stuck? by stereo on Thursday March 25, 2021 @07:49PM (#26587150)
Territorial waters extend 12 nautical miles (22 km) from a coastline.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Convention_on_t...

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Re:Is that ship still stuck? by khuey on Thursday March 25, 2021 @09:52PM (#26588001)
Also this would be innocent passage anyways.
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Re:Is that ship still stuck? by boc on Thursday March 25, 2021 @09:13PM (#26587780)
And that's how you'd get a nice, friendly visit from the Sixth Fleet.
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Re:Is that ship still stuck? by yellowapple on Friday March 26, 2021 @03:27AM (#26589600)
"Knock knock. It's the United States. With huge boats. With guns. Gunboats."
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Re:Is that ship still stuck? by NickNameNick on Friday March 26, 2021 @03:56AM (#26589718)
The US navy has a proud tradition of gunboat diplomacy going back at least as far as commodore Perry and the opening of japan.
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Re:Is that ship still stuck? by yellowapple on Friday March 26, 2021 @04:29AM (#26589903)
That's indeed the reference, yep: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Mh5LY4Mz15o
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Re:Is that ship still stuck? by dragonwriter on Thursday March 25, 2021 @07:54PM (#26587199)
Well, that would trigger some Freedom of Navigation Operations.
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Re:Is that ship still stuck? by imtringued on Friday March 26, 2021 @09:04AM (#26591624)
If I were South Africa I would make sure that this route is as attractive as possible.
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Re:Is that ship still stuck? by umanwizard on Friday March 26, 2021 @07:17AM (#26590739)
That would be illegal and if they attempted to enforce it they would be engaging in piracy.
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