Re:A curated list of FOSS tools to improve the Hacker News e...
by interestica on Monday March 15, 2021 @01:08PM
(#26468575)
Same. Except for some weird reason it won't let you click on URLs from hacker News when posted in a thread (eg when someone is linking to an older thread). Other than that, it's the best HN client I've come across for Android.
I suspect it's some kind of recursion thing going on where I'm already in the app assigned to HN URLs.?
Re:A curated list of FOSS tools to improve the Hacker News e...
by webmaven on Tuesday March 16, 2021 @10:11AM
(#26476874)
Agree with the sibling comments (no editing, no downvoting, can't open hn links from a comment), and here are a few more:
When looking at a comment from a user profile and viewing the thread, it only shows the chain of parents, and no replies to the comment (much less any replies to the parents).
Several top level navigation options (most notably 'threads' and 'past') have no representation in the app's navigation menu.
Many sites don't display in the 'article' tab at all, they have to be opened in a browser.
Some sites that do display are squashed vertically, though this can be remedied by maximizing the article.
Re:A curated list of FOSS tools to improve the Hacker News e...
by SomeHacker44 on Monday March 15, 2021 @10:34PM
(#26472218)
Also do not like being unable to downvote on those really rare occasions it is warranted. Beyond that I use it daily and right now. Nice piece of work!
Re:A curated list of FOSS tools to improve the Hacker News e...
by hivacruz on Monday March 15, 2021 @11:38AM
(#26467254)
I would love to see something to exclude or ignore some patterns in titles or links.
I browse HN every day to read good tech posts and comments but I'm a very anxious person (especially these days of course) and seeing articles about death, cancers and other things make me start the day quite badly.
I know this is not a solution to ignore this, I should fight it, but I would gladly like to see (sub-)categories or tags on HN to browse wisely what I'm interesting in.
Re:A curated list of FOSS tools to improve the Hacker News e...
by nathanasmith on Monday March 15, 2021 @09:05PM
(#26471644)
I use a Chrome extension[0] that filters articles and comments by keyword. It's a bit coarse and something something group think but my sanity is preserved.
Re:A curated list of FOSS tools to improve the Hacker News e...
by brokenmachine on Monday March 15, 2021 @07:10PM
(#26470528)
>I know this is not a solution to ignore this
I don't watch any network news and I'm much happier for it. Seeing lots of horrible stuff that you can't do anything about is not healthy. It's the same with bad stuff in your social media feeds.
Re:A curated list of FOSS tools to improve the Hacker News e...
by invisiblerobot on Monday March 15, 2021 @12:12PM
(#26467783)
I would like a sentiment analysis of the comments posted beside each article link. A kind of temperature reading. So you can guage if the comments are generally positive or negative and use that as a proxy for whether the article is considered valuable enough to click on.
It's not perfect as conversations evolve away from the articles. But it would be useful I think.
Re:A curated list of FOSS tools to improve the Hacker News e...
by minimaxir on Monday March 15, 2021 @12:21PM
(#26467937)
In natural language processing and Hacker News in particular, it's often incorrect that a submission with mostly positive comments imply an article is valuable, and conversely a submission with mostly negative comments imply an article is not valuable.
That rationale just leads to even more groupthink than usual for an online community.
Re:A curated list of FOSS tools to improve the Hacker News e...
by creamynebula on Monday March 15, 2021 @12:30PM
(#26468080)
Maybe the quality of submission is not what's being judged, but whether or not the discussion itself is valuable. I for one prefer to read discussions in a positive tone...
Re:A curated list of FOSS tools to improve the Hacker News e...
by clairity on Monday March 15, 2021 @01:44PM
(#26469049)
more pointedly, comment sentiment is a naive and misleading signal of either submission or discussion quality. most simply because it's a poor proxy for why, but also because quality is an amorphous concept that defies direct rationalization (i.e., being numericalized), among other factors.
naive heuristics are also gamed more easily, especially because they have a tenous relationship to the desired signal in the first place.
slightly more interesting would be absolute value of comment sentiment, which would be a (still naive) measure of controversy/engagement. to really get at quality and value, you'd have to consider comment semiotics/semantics (the symbolic meaning and content), which complicates the effort exponentially (perhaps impossibly so).
Re:A curated list of FOSS tools to improve the Hacker News e...
by invisiblerobot on Monday March 15, 2021 @06:31PM
(#26470152)
That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying an article that is positive sentiment OR negative sentiment is INTERESTING enough to click on. An article with luke warm sentiment either way is less interesting.
Re:A curated list of FOSS tools to improve the Hacker News e...
by enobrev on Monday March 15, 2021 @01:33PM
(#26468930)
I use an android client for HN, but the _only_ feature I actually want is for the collapse and vote buttons to be big enough for human fingers on mobile. Being able to unvote helps, but one of the only reasons I ever need to unvote is because the vote buttons are microscopic.
Re:A curated list of FOSS tools to improve the Hacker News e...
by m_j_g on Monday March 15, 2021 @07:17PM
(#26470596)
I am fan of some niche technologies, I would love the functionality of “white list”, which would show “new stories” on the main page if new story contains some specific keyword from predefined set (ideally not only in title but also in content of linked page)
Re:A curated list of FOSS tools to improve the Hacker News e...
by bminusl on Monday March 15, 2021 @06:06PM
(#26469835)
The lack of a license on small projects is often an oversight. And anyway, when the authors are notified, they choose the first license they see --- often MIT.
Re:A curated list of FOSS tools to improve the Hacker News e...
by tartoran on Monday March 15, 2021 @05:57PM
(#26469732)
I would like to be able mark off all the stories I read or am not interested in so at the next visits I can quickly scan whether there's any change. I know I could use the 'hide' for stories but I'd still have to scan a list of 30 (older) stories so that won't work so basically zero inbox isn't working out for me. Also I like seeing the how the rank changes for the top 30 stories, I just want to visually be able to know I checked that off.
Re:A curated list of FOSS tools to improve the Hacker News e...
by brokenmachine on Monday March 15, 2021 @07:08PM
(#26470499)
Is there anything that gives a "parent" button to comments? Like a tampermonkey script or something?
Whenever there's a deep tree, I sometimes find it hard to know what comment people are replying to. A better visual indicator of the depth of the comments would be nice as well.
Re:A curated list of FOSS tools to improve the Hacker News e...
by throwawaysea on Monday March 15, 2021 @05:33PM
(#26469402)
Will one of these make grayed out comments easier to read? I often find it very hard to read those even when I intend to, which I feel like is a design flaw. It would be better if there was a toggle button to let me read a specific comment with normal coloring.
Re:A curated list of FOSS tools to improve the Hacker News e...
by yesenadam on Monday March 15, 2021 @06:28PM
(#26470117)
If you click on the "X minutes ago" it takes you to that comment's page, where it's not greyed out. Or use this bookmarklet to ungrey all comments on a page:
Re:A curated list of FOSS tools to improve the Hacker News e...
by dang on Monday March 15, 2021 @06:27PM
(#26470111)
If a comment is faded and you're having trouble reading it, you can click on its timestamp to go to its page, and in that case it should be rendered normally.
I know it's an extra hop, but hopefully better than nothing.
Re:A curated list of FOSS tools to improve the Hacker News e...
by jonplackett on Monday March 15, 2021 @11:59AM
(#26467572)
I have an idea for a HN add on that I don’t have time to make yet.
I’d like to make a ‘social media’ version of HN that notifies you every time anyone upvotes your comment or post and generally bugs you in all the ways social media normally does. Just to see what it would be like.
Available on f-droid- https://f-droid.org/en/packages/io.github.hidroh.materialist...
I suspect it's some kind of recursion thing going on where I'm already in the app assigned to HN URLs.?
The link problem is also the only annoyance I have. Sadly it looks like many issues have been opened for the bug but I don't see any discussion on the tickets: https://github.com/hidroh/materialistic/issues?q=is%3Aissue+...
When looking at a comment from a user profile and viewing the thread, it only shows the chain of parents, and no replies to the comment (much less any replies to the parents).
Several top level navigation options (most notably 'threads' and 'past') have no representation in the app's navigation menu.
Many sites don't display in the 'article' tab at all, they have to be opened in a browser.
Some sites that do display are squashed vertically, though this can be remedied by maximizing the article.
I browse HN every day to read good tech posts and comments but I'm a very anxious person (especially these days of course) and seeing articles about death, cancers and other things make me start the day quite badly.
I know this is not a solution to ignore this, I should fight it, but I would gladly like to see (sub-)categories or tags on HN to browse wisely what I'm interesting in.
[0]https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/hn-keyword-filter/...
I don't watch any network news and I'm much happier for it. Seeing lots of horrible stuff that you can't do anything about is not healthy. It's the same with bad stuff in your social media feeds.
It's not perfect as conversations evolve away from the articles. But it would be useful I think.
That rationale just leads to even more groupthink than usual for an online community.
naive heuristics are also gamed more easily, especially because they have a tenous relationship to the desired signal in the first place.
slightly more interesting would be absolute value of comment sentiment, which would be a (still naive) measure of controversy/engagement. to really get at quality and value, you'd have to consider comment semiotics/semantics (the symbolic meaning and content), which complicates the effort exponentially (perhaps impossibly so).
I have developed a similar extension for facebook feed.
It's an open source Postgres FDW using Go - https://github.com/turbot/steampipe-plugin-hackernews
Whenever there's a deep tree, I sometimes find it hard to know what comment people are replying to. A better visual indicator of the depth of the comments would be nice as well.
I know it's an extra hop, but hopefully better than nothing.
I’d like to make a ‘social media’ version of HN that notifies you every time anyone upvotes your comment or post and generally bugs you in all the ways social media normally does. Just to see what it would be like.