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Re:I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built... by LeonM on Thursday March 11, 2021 @07:59AM (#26423478)
This service should come with a big fat warning that the emoji email addresses should never be used for anything remotely serious.

Running an email service is not, by any means, a 'tiny project'. I would never pay, nor rely on an e-mail service that is effectively a one-men side project.

I just took a quick check on the 'mailbox' domain (I can't paste emoji here on HN). There seems to be no DMARC, no MTA-STS and no TLS-reporting set up for these domains. The SPF record allows a single /48 (65k) IPv6 block of addresses to send email on behalf of the domain. The MX does not seem to support TLS. The SPF record seems to be added at the '@' domain, so it is returned on every query, even where it is not supposed to be returned, so you can be sure DKIM will fail (you did set up DKIM, did you?). Just to name a few issues.

But even if implemented perfectly, there are a lot of 'enterprise' email 'solutions' out there that are not even close to implementing even the most basic of RFCs. Do not expect them to support punycode. Do not expect your emoji email to de deliverable to any of these services.

Re:I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built... by kureikain on Thursday March 11, 2021 @08:18AM (#26423642)
What you say is entirely true. But in practice, this is for fun, no one gonna use their emoji email for anything important. But it's great to have an emoji email to give to medium when they ask for it? Isn't that great.
Re:I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built... by LeonM on Thursday March 11, 2021 @08:23AM (#26423707)
> no one gonna use their emoji email for anything important

I disagree.

We, as technical HN crowd, know not to do this this. But any non-technical person who sees 'get a next-gen email addresses' being advertised for 9,99/year will expect more. A lot more.

Do not underestimate how naive and demanding consumers can be.

Re:I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built... by kristopolous on Thursday March 11, 2021 @12:42PM (#26426759)
I've become a big fan of structuring onboarding in a way that makes problem customers never complete. Maybe the OP should think about how to do that here
Re:I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built... by ethbr0 on Thursday March 11, 2021 @09:21AM (#26424260)
And for a long time, no one used email for anything important.

Very few new things emerge feature-complete.

Re:I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built... by Invictus0 on Thursday March 11, 2021 @09:43AM (#26424479)
It amazes me how people on HN can handwave away these huge concerns. Have you met human beings? The users just sees "email" and thinks it's exactly like gmail except with a funky emoji in it. It's only a matter of time before someone tries to pay their taxes with this.
Re:I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built... by ethbr0 on Thursday March 11, 2021 @11:00AM (#26425421)
You know what breaks, in human beings' experiences?

Everything. All the time.

So the holier-than-thou, thou-shall-not-deploy-less-than-perfect perspective is pretty irrelevant.

This is a side project. That did something neat. The author should be commended, not lambasted for not rebuilding Gmail on their own.

And God knows the Internet would be a better place with a little more weirdness again.

Re:I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built... by thatguy0900 on Thursday March 11, 2021 @12:15PM (#26426428)
I dont think they are being lambasted, they should just put a warning on their site. Email is a very messed up ecosystem, and people who use email don't understand that. This is very cool, there should just be a disclaimer that this is a side project and will break often. Email is notoriously a pain in the ass if it's a full time job, much less a side project that's losing money. He's not selling this to quirky techies, his primary advertisement was tic tok. That's kind of irresponsible to not warn people this should just be for fun.
Re:I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built... by a1369209993 on Thursday March 11, 2021 @04:37PM (#26429298)
You're not wrong per se, but rather: there should just be a disclaimer on Email that this is a very messed up ecosystem and will break often. It's not specific to xn--ds8h.kz et al.
Re:I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built... by kwhitefoot on Thursday March 11, 2021 @10:00AM (#26424655)
How do you pay your taxes with email?
Re:I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built... by kureikain on Thursday March 11, 2021 @06:05PM (#26430167)
They probaly means we use that email address when paying taxes so notification/receipt etc will be send to that email address.
Re:I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built... by lenkite on Thursday March 11, 2021 @11:38AM (#26425924)
Yep, this is going to bomb big time in the next year or even less. No doubt there will be fodder for another HN post..
Re:I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built... by kureikain on Thursday March 11, 2021 @08:28AM (#26423747)
Thank you for open my mind. I see your point now.
Re:I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built... by rorykoehler on Thursday March 11, 2021 @08:33AM (#26423808)
Caveat emptor
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Re:I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built... by thatguy0900 on Thursday March 11, 2021 @09:06AM (#26424127)
I mean, normally I would agree with you, but here it's the case. Someone is paying for an email, address, they will expect it to work. Noone knows how email actually works, why should they.
Re:I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built... by mihaaly on Thursday March 11, 2021 @09:31AM (#26424361)
That is all until The Queen snatches up that reserved Liz@[crown].kz, after that the MI5 will buy and run the [union-jack].uk for all governmental parties and typing in [email protected] istead of [serious-face-with-a-tie]@[big-ben] will be considered rude in high circles, believe me that!

;)

Re:I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built... by mrtksn on Thursday March 11, 2021 @09:29AM (#26424335)
That's what Dogecoin's creator said. 7 years later it sits at 7 Billion $ market cap and it is a big deal.

After all, people pay money to obtain these. Why anybody paying a subscription fee would expect that the product is useless?

Re:I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built... by ilaksh on Thursday March 11, 2021 @10:09AM (#26424795)
And soon to be the official currency of Starbase, Texas. Apparently. Although I might be misinterpreting Musk's tweet. He definitely said Dodge though.
Re:I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built... by insert_coin on Thursday March 11, 2021 @09:22AM (#26424261)
> This service should come with a big fat warning that the emoji email addresses should never be used for anything remotely serious.

I don't know, we said the same thing about jeans.

Re:I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built... by shp0ngle on Thursday March 11, 2021 @08:08AM (#26423549)
This service doesn’t support even sending, just receiving. So I don’t think there is DKIM even considered.
Re:I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built... by LeonM on Thursday March 11, 2021 @08:27AM (#26423739)
It says send support is 'coming soon' on the website, so expectations are already set for those paying for this service.
Re:I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built... by motoboi on Thursday March 11, 2021 @11:46AM (#26426033)
It needs DKIM so other people cannot send e-mail pretending to be you.
Re:I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built... by sofixa on Thursday March 11, 2021 @08:12AM (#26423594)
Or SPF for that matter.
Re:I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built... by toxik on Thursday March 11, 2021 @02:09PM (#26427755)
It should have an SPF record saying nobody can send as that domain.
Re:I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built... by hedora on Thursday March 11, 2021 @10:02AM (#26424672)
If enough people start using it, the big email providers will follow, or the new service will get around to fixing it.

It’ll work out either way.

I’m not going to shed a tear for gmail if they have to start putting up with someone else’s busted non-standard email infrastructure. They should be able to get what they give.

Re:I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built... by dylan604 on Thursday March 11, 2021 @10:33AM (#26425068)
>They should be able to get what they give.

Except, that will never happen. What's more likely, Gmail changes what they do to accomodate some goofy emoji system, or users of some goofy emoji system get frustrated about it's incompatibility and stop using it because it is so frustrating? I'm not talking about tech nerds on HN or the likes. I'm talking about FOMO/YOLO types that think it's "cool", but then new shiny happens, and they just forget about. One group significantly outnumbers the other.

Re:I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built... by dmingod666 on Thursday March 11, 2021 @12:01PM (#26426246)
'Serious', 'enterprise'.. and email addresses ending in star emoji, eggplant emoji.. wonder how that venn diagram would look like..
Re:I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built... by path411 on Thursday March 11, 2021 @12:20PM (#26426493)
Yes but yourname@[computer] is quite appealing for a dev. I already bought it from OP
Re:I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built... by swiley on Thursday March 11, 2021 @08:14AM (#26423613)
I'm pretty sure most people wouldn't expect something like this to work reliably.
Re:I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built... by thatguy0900 on Thursday March 11, 2021 @12:20PM (#26426491)
He advertised it to a general audience on tic tok,and it is a service people pay for. Why would they not expect it to work? That makes no sense to me. It seems that way because you understand how dysfunctional email is. I would be upset if I bought a service for something I don't understand that is normally completely functional and free and when I relied on it it broke only for people who understand it to laugh at me because I should have just known that vendor was unreliable.
Re:I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built... by swiley on Friday March 12, 2021 @05:20AM (#26434082)
emojis break lots of things. Most people probably aren't surprised when using emojis in passwords doesn't work well either.
Re:I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built... by kirykl on Thursday March 11, 2021 @10:32AM (#26425060)
If you know so much about this stuff instead of criticizing, offer to help for a consulting fee and get your own paragraph in the next update to this story
Re:I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built... by saym on Thursday March 11, 2021 @06:09PM (#26430200)
I love the idea of a positive (yet critical) feedback loop instead of the tone on display here.
Re:I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built... by mleonhard on Thursday March 11, 2021 @08:13PM (#26431161)
DMARK, DKIM, and SPF are only for sending. Mailoji doesn't support sending yet.

TLS and MTA-STS are for receiving and would be good to set up, eventually.

Re:I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built... by donnythecroc on Thursday March 11, 2021 @07:05PM (#26430648)
You sound fun