Anecdote time: my parents bought a secondhand 93 Toyota Corolla that I inherited and drove until 2011. They continued using it until 2018, and got rid of it. It was still running. A few plastic internals had failed and the engine was rough, but still going. It easily had another 5ish years on it.

Teslas seem to be on the same path as smartphones - even if the original hardware doesn't get any slower as such, the experience gets worse and worse and worse with updates, to a point where a car that's less than 10 years old is now uncomfortable to use. It's a tragedy.

Still worked like a charm, and it wasn't a particularly fancy model or brand.

I hope GP just used "aging" meaning "not brand new", it would scare me deeply if we started replacing cars the way we do smartphones.

27/83 = .33

3/17 = .18

Yes, the math checks out. The 2017 model is only 18% of the age of tesla motors, while the corolla was 33% of the age of Toyota.

How is a three year old car aging?

I have a twenty year old Honda and a six year old Toyota and both feel amazing. The Honda doesn't feel new, but it doesn't have any problems. All I have to do is change the oil.

Are we switching to a disposable car model now?

It shouldn't be; depending on source, average length of new car ownership in the US seems to be somewhere in the 7-9 year range, and average length of car ownership (including cars bought used) seems to be ~4 years, and average car lifespan seems to be around 15 years. A car 3-4 years from new shouldn't be “aging”.

I hope they’re getting sold to Mexico or something, not scrapped.

Also, "aging" is going to be heavily influenced by socioeconomic group. For some people, aesthetic damage to the paint or interior is enough to qualify as aging. Other people are more interested in the functionality, and other people are interested in whatever drives. I have friends that consider a 3 year old car to be aging, and I have friends who drive 10 year old cars and think they're just fine.

I do think Teslas (and electric cars in general) are going to have an impact on the used car market, especially on the cheaper end. These batteries don't have tremendously long lifespans, and a replacement often costs as much as a cheap ICE car.

I'm curious if there's going to be any profit in repairing electric cars with new batteries to sell them in Mexico or other parts of the globe, or if we're basically just going to be cutting off part of the used car market. The social impacts of developing countries losing access to a relatively cheap supply of vehicles could be bad.

https://www.nhtsa.gov/press-releases/odometer-disclosure-req...

20 x 13500 is 270k. I don't think that's average.

https://www.fhwa.dot.gov/ohim/onh00/bar8.htm

https://dmvnv.com/news/20023-new-odometer-rules.htm

"The average age of a vehicle in the U.S. is now almost 12 years, up from 7.6 years when the odometer rules were last changed in 1988."

To keep the meme bubble Musk's created alive and justify the market cap as well as personal buying decisions, it is neccessary to create a conversation where a Tesla is always the default, the "normal".

Thus: A three year old car is "aging", the steering wheel falling off is no reason to complain [0] and buying a two-ton sportscar is the ultimate pro-environment move.

[0] https://preview.redd.it/canfcfr00tw41.jpg?width=551&auto=web...

The group you are describing are the ones who bought the car. The one I am describing are the ones who are holding Tesla shares/options and doing mental gymnastics how Tesla is still undervalued and will moon forever.

I'm afraid we have done long ago now. BMW estimates that 90% of buyers won't keep their car for longer than 3 years. They are rolling out a subscription model for features based on that fact - so you buy the car which has all the functions built-in from factory, but then pay an annual fee to unlock them. Fancy heated seats? You get a 7 day free trial, after that it's a paid unlock. Same with adaptive cruise control, adjustible suspension, sport driving modes, etc etc. Tesla might have pioneered this model but BMW is taking it all the way. And they have the gull to say it actually saves their customers money so it's a preferred option.

That's exactly what this recall is meant to address: that the eMMC is aging faster than what is reasonable.

How many miles does the car have?

The screen isn't a mechanical part. That's the equivalent of someone trying to justify their radio failing because they drive a lot.

Sorry if my statement wasn't clear.