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Re:Does Apple really log every app you run? A technical look by josephcsible on Saturday November 14, 2020 @05:09PM (#25096122)
> I never asked them to do that in the first place, so I'll be blocking it from now on.

Apple's working on making sure you can't block it. They already keep you from blocking their own traffic with Little Snitch and similar tools: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24838816

Re:Does Apple really log every app you run? A technical look by m463 on Saturday November 14, 2020 @05:23PM (#25096233)
It's worth noting that on ios you can never block anything - just have to put up with it.
Re:Does Apple really log every app you run? A technical look by delvinj on Saturday November 14, 2020 @05:45PM (#25096380)
You can still block access by host by using an HTTP proxy like Fiddler or Charles.

Settings > WIFI > Proxy

Re:Does Apple really log every app you run? A technical look by m463 on Saturday November 14, 2020 @08:40PM (#25097369)
I use adblockios and haven't upgraded because they unblocked the blocking. I keep hearing about charles, I wonder if it is special or if it doesn't really block everything.
Re:Does Apple really log every app you run? A technical look by sesuximo on Saturday November 14, 2020 @05:30PM (#25096270)
... and that apple wants to merge its operating systems
Re:Does Apple really log every app you run? A technical look by the_other on Saturday November 14, 2020 @06:11PM (#25096560)
No they don’t. They keep adding new ones.

They want to provide a consistent user experience across their ecosystem. Not the same thing.

Re:Does Apple really log every app you run? A technical look by andai on Saturday November 14, 2020 @09:56PM (#25097819)
Unfortunately the consistency is moving in the direction of iOS rather than macOS.
Re:Does Apple really log every app you run? A technical look by api on Saturday November 14, 2020 @05:11PM (#25096135)
The hosts file works for now. Use 127.0.0.1 and ::1 on two separate lines. Used tcpdump to verify.
Re:Does Apple really log every app you run? A technical look by cute_boi on Saturday November 14, 2020 @05:16PM (#25096177)
if they keep doing like this I will block their entire ASN .
Re:Does Apple really log every app you run? A technical look by amelius on Saturday November 14, 2020 @08:45PM (#25097404)
Or stop buying stuff that is broken-by-design in the first place.
Re:Does Apple really log every app you run? A technical look by sneak on Saturday November 14, 2020 @07:33PM (#25096985)
Apple is old enough that you need only block 17./8: they have a class A(!).
Re:Does Apple really log every app you run? A technical look by WesolyKubeczek on Saturday November 14, 2020 @06:28PM (#25096647)
They already are fronting much of their stuff via Akamai, so good luck doing that...
Re:Does Apple really log every app you run? A technical look by fsflover on Sunday November 15, 2020 @03:41AM (#25099407)
Do you think you are going to win the war against "your own" hardware?
Re:Does Apple really log every app you run? A technical look by iso947 on Saturday November 14, 2020 @05:25PM (#25096246)
Until they front it via cloudflare or aws. I got hit by AWS blocking when setting up a network in Russia for the 2018 World Cup - my unifi controller was on an ec2 instance that was blocked due to telegram shenanigans. Worked around the problem but shows that blocking an AS can lead towards an unusable computer.
Re:Does Apple really log every app you run? A technical look by catlifeonmars on Saturday November 14, 2020 @06:15PM (#25096589)
You could block still block it externally by running a dns sinkhole (a la PiHole) on the same network, provided that you can still configure the DNS resolver.
Re:Does Apple really log every app you run? A technical look by mkskm on Saturday November 14, 2020 @06:25PM (#25096631)
That assumes the hostname will stay the same and not get overloaded by other essential services.
Re:Does Apple really log every app you run? A technical look by catlifeonmars on Saturday November 21, 2020 @02:43AM (#25168374)
Yep. That seems to be within the realm of possibility though, no?
Re:Does Apple really log every app you run? A technical look by LdSGSgvupDV on Monday November 16, 2020 @04:13AM (#25109697)
Maybe downgrade the macos would work. As I'm in old version of os, Little Snitch works quite well.
Re:Does Apple really log every app you run? A technical look by ravenstine on Saturday November 14, 2020 @05:11PM (#25096140)
Isn't that just with Big Sur? Also, I'm using the hosts file method.
Re:Does Apple really log every app you run? A technical look by claudeganon on Saturday November 14, 2020 @05:57PM (#25096466)
I don’t think it’s actually just in Big Sur. At the bottom of this post describing how to stop them from hiding traffic, they mention someone did a test on Catalina and ran into an issue with the Messages app:

https://tinyapps.org/blog/202010210700_whose_computer_is_it....

Re:Does Apple really log every app you run? A technical look by mkskm on Saturday November 14, 2020 @06:28PM (#25096644)
Apple deprecated kernel extensions like Little Snitch in Catalina, so if I had to guess it probably applies there as well.
Re:Does Apple really log every app you run? A technical look by anamexis on Saturday November 14, 2020 @05:14PM (#25096170)
The OP is about Big Sur.
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Re:Does Apple really log every app you run? A technical look by saagarjha on Saturday November 14, 2020 @05:41PM (#25096343)
The clock is where Notification Center lives, so you can’t get rid of it. (Of course that makes sense.)