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Re:Electric shocks to the tongue can quiet chronic ringing ears by _fs on Wednesday October 07, 2020 @06:27PM (#24713543)
I wish more work was happening in this sphere. I know I would easily pay $50k+ for even a 50/50 chance to cure my tinnitus. Its a horrible feeling to never be able to quiet your mind.
Re:Electric shocks to the tongue can quiet chronic ringing ears by lr4444lr on Wednesday October 07, 2020 @07:37PM (#24714098)
I dunno how many years in you are (I'm almost 10) but if it's any consolation, you do get used to it. If your particular tinnitus aetiology is sensorineural hearing loss as it is with most, cutting edge research suggests that stem cell based therapies will eventually be able to fix this problem.
Re:Electric shocks to the tongue can quiet chronic ringing ears by swader999 on Thursday October 08, 2020 @02:12AM (#24716375)
I'm ready to diy this study for an attempt to turn this constant ringing off.
Re:Electric shocks to the tongue can quiet chronic ringing ears by rossdavidh on Wednesday October 07, 2020 @07:30PM (#24714053)
The article mentions that talk therapy is already an accepted treatment. Not guaranteed to help, of course, but probably that means you could get access to it (for a lot less than $50k, I would hope). So, worth looking into if anyone near you has done this for tinnitus.
Re:Electric shocks to the tongue can quiet chronic ringing ears by taneq on Wednesday October 07, 2020 @08:32PM (#24714432)
Talk therapy? As in, tinnitus is psychosomatic and you can persuade yourself out of hearing it? O.o
Re:Electric shocks to the tongue can quiet chronic ringing ears by meroes on Thursday October 08, 2020 @01:13AM (#24716072)
Psychosomatic doesn't quite mean that. The symptoms are real and physical, but the origination is in the mind somehow, maybe through stress or a learned behavior. Solve the stress or mental conflict -> seemingly unrelated symptoms stop.
Re:Electric shocks to the tongue can quiet chronic ringing ears by sjg007 on Wednesday October 07, 2020 @08:46PM (#24714507)
Maybe re-program your brain to desensitize it to whatever the source is.
Re:Electric shocks to the tongue can quiet chronic ringing ears by novok on Wednesday October 07, 2020 @09:03PM (#24714600)
I think in practice it's basically helping you come to accepting you have tinnitus because they can't do shit all about it, or understand why it happens in a bunch of cases.
Re:Electric shocks to the tongue can quiet chronic ringing ears by jlokier on Thursday October 08, 2020 @09:36AM (#24718970)
There's a neural theory of tinnitus, that says you hear it because your brain is compensating for lack of signal at some frequencies.

Like the amplifiers are turned up to max at some frequencies, and the neural net maybe even adds an interpolated perception.

If that theory has anything to it, it makes sense that it might be possible to train your brain to reduce the effect.

That's not just "accepting", but it might be difficult to perceive a difference if "accepting" results in "not noticing as much", and "not noticing as much" is indistinguishable from "turning down my brain's perception gain for these signals".

Re:Electric shocks to the tongue can quiet chronic ringing ears by pcrh on Thursday October 08, 2020 @02:51AM (#24716556)
It would help to reduce your response to tinnitus. Most of us are able to "tune out" constant environmental noise; the same can be done with tinnitus.
Re:Electric shocks to the tongue can quiet chronic ringing ears by jakubp on Thursday October 08, 2020 @03:10AM (#24716665)
I can tell you first hand that while you can indeed become somewhat... used to that constant ringing sound (1), it isn't exactly "tuning out" like with typical environmental noise (street sounds, wind or rain).

Here's what it's like.

Imagine someone is standing right behind you with a little whiteboard and scratches the chalk on it. It makes this high pitched sound you cringe at, right?.

Someone is doing that slowly, and the chalk is tiny, so the sound is not super loud, and can be covered by music, people talking etc.

But that person keeps scratching all the time. A little bit. Every second of every minute, of every quiet moment at home, in the mountains, in your electric supposedly-quiet car, of your every mindfulness meditation practice. For years.

So can you "tune out"? Maybe if you dull your senses and have laser focused attention for most of the day. But it keeps coming back. And again, and again. It can be confusing, annoying, funny, or just be there. Your reactions vary, as you learn to adjust to it (if you try to).

But "tune out" suggests once it's done, it's gone.

This is never gone, it's the opposite of gone - it's there even if I stop breathing!

(1) Actual nature of the sound varies between people.

Re:Electric shocks to the tongue can quiet chronic ringing ears by jlokier on Thursday October 08, 2020 @09:24AM (#24718875)
I find I "tune out" because I'm concentrating on something else.

Same way I stop noticing sometimes that someone is trying to talk to me, or that I have a deadline that's drifting past, or that I haven't eaten or moved from my chair all day.

The sound doesn't go away, but I stop noticing.

I'll start noticing again if I'm trying to listen to something quiet, and realise the tinnitus is louder and slightly masking what I'm trying to hear.

Or any time I pay attention to what I can hear in the background.

I don't tend to notice the tinnitus if music is playing, or I'm talking with someone.

I agree with you that it's never gone. Though I've noticed the volume varies a lot. From quiet like the background sounds from outside where I live on a quiet day, or even quieter than the sound of breathing and my heart beating, to as loud as someone talking to me. The tones vary too. Fortunately they are usually higher frequency than what I'm listening too which reduces masking.

I've had tinnitus since I was a child, so I doubt it's due to age-related hearing loss. I don't know a cause, but back then I noticed it was louder when I was ill and stuck in bed, and actually I found it comforting then, like it sounded like my body processing as it should.

Re:Electric shocks to the tongue can quiet chronic ringing ears by ddlutz on Wednesday October 07, 2020 @06:59PM (#24713802)
I'd pay that much if it was guaranteed to cure it forever (minus any new injury that could occur). Been having it since I was 24 with a massive ear infection, it's been hell some days.
Re:Electric shocks to the tongue can quiet chronic ringing ears by GioM on Wednesday October 07, 2020 @09:17PM (#24714678)
Sorry about this. It is really shitty. Like you, I got a case of tinnitus via ear infection. In my case it was caused by a three-week-long infection.

However, I count myself massively lucky that it did slowly resolve over about 5 years, to the point where I’d now consider it nearly gone.

I know it’s easy to lose hope, and get really frustrated by it, but I hope you have good days coming to you. Good luck.

Re:Electric shocks to the tongue can quiet chronic ringing ears by ddlutz on Wednesday October 07, 2020 @11:22PM (#24715355)
Mine also lasted multiple weeks, due to doctors not taking me seriously with how bad the pain was (even though I showed up at the ER @ 4 in the morning due to waking up from intense pain), and having seen three doctors, including one ENT, getting told it's a virus, bacteria, or fungus. Maybe I'll be as lucky as you and in 2 years it'll be all gone :)
Re:Electric shocks to the tongue can quiet chronic ringing ears by conception on Thursday October 08, 2020 @12:34AM (#24715836)
May not work for you but this - does give me a few minutes of relief. I’ve heard that if you do it regularly it can help. - https://lifehacker.com/this-weird-trick-might-give-you-brief...
Re:Electric shocks to the tongue can quiet chronic ringing ears by zalebz on Thursday October 08, 2020 @08:36AM (#24718552)
wow, dramatic difference, thank you for bringing this tool to my attention.
Re:Electric shocks to the tongue can quiet chronic ringing ears by kuiper0x2 on Wednesday October 07, 2020 @10:58PM (#24715209)
Large doses of antioxidants can improve tinnitus

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6950042/

You can send me that $50k now

Re:Electric shocks to the tongue can quiet chronic ringing ears by lgats on Thursday October 08, 2020 @02:31AM (#24716454)

   The antioxidant group received one multivitamin-multimineral tablet once a day with their meal and one tablet of alpha-lipoic acid twice a day on an empty stomach
Re:Electric shocks to the tongue can quiet chronic ringing ears by wtvanhest on Wednesday October 07, 2020 @08:51PM (#24714549)
I found that mine seems to be mechanical. If I drink out of a water bottle with a straw, it is typically worse the next day. Also, if I drink alcohol, it makes me clench my jaw and my tinnitus is bad the next day.