Re:Show HN: DotYouTube – A tiny Chrome extension to block Yo...
by perardi on Saturday July 11, 2020 @11:11AM
(#23802734)
I don’t necessarily mind ads. Gotta pay for content somehow, micro-transactions haven’t worked, and I’m approaching some weird psychological threshold where I just don’t want to see another subscription on my credit card.
But ughhhhhh YouTube advertisements are so bad for me. I constantly get weird ”sexy witch girl” mobile game promos, I assume because I watch competitive Pokémon videos. (Spoiler, algorithm, gay male, don’t care about scantily glad witch girls.) Just grating dumb ads for stuff I definitely won’t buy.
And it doesn’t have to be that way, seemingly. Instagram has me targeted perfectly. I actually find interesting stuff to buy off Instagram ads. That algorithm has me down pat. I don’t find those ads disgusting it all. (Or I get a kick out of the insane Wish ads.)
Re:Show HN: DotYouTube – A tiny Chrome extension to block Yo...
by londons_explore on Saturday July 11, 2020 @02:20PM
(#23804361)
Google, despite being the biggest player in the ad industry and a leader in machine learning, actually seems remarkably poor at selecting good ads to show.
I think part of that is their data compartmentalizing for privacy reasons (they won't use your Gmail emails to your mum complaining that your drain is blocked to recommend 'magic drain unblocking washing liquid'). It's probably a good thing, but the other platforms don't have any qualms using such data if they have it...
I also think they listen to the advertiser too much... For example, they give advertiser's a lot of control over who sees the ads, which creatives are used, what times of day to show them, etc.
It turns out a machine learning algorithm can do much better than a human at selecting when to show my ad...
Re:Show HN: DotYouTube – A tiny Chrome extension to block Yo...
by ezoe on Saturday July 11, 2020 @03:10PM
(#23804868)
The question is, does showing the precise target matched ads profit the Google more? If not, Google has no incentive to improve in that regard. By showing you ads, Google has already been profiting. All Google need to do is showing you the ads from the highest bidder while it's also not annoying enough for you to leave the web site. The highest bidder's ads tend to be rather nasty. But if you don't stop using the web site because of the ads, Google win.
Re:Show HN: DotYouTube – A tiny Chrome extension to block Yo...
by paulie_a on Saturday July 11, 2020 @04:08PM
(#23805446)
Google, Facebook and pretty much all internet advertisers are overrated. All that tech to marginally beat a newspaper ad of the era. Big whoop. There really isn't anything impressive about them.
Re:Show HN: DotYouTube – A tiny Chrome extension to block Yo...
by paulie_a on Saturday July 11, 2020 @04:04PM
(#23805414)
Patreon shows that semi micro transactions do work.
But at the end of the day. I'll just pay the 12 dollars to YouTube for the ad free experience and avoid channels that get to heavy handed with sponsors.
I have signed up and paid for a number of third party products and services because of quality, but limited sponsorship
Re:Show HN: DotYouTube – A tiny Chrome extension to block Yo...
by tokamak-teapot on Saturday July 11, 2020 @11:12AM
(#23802739)
Is there a good solution for mobile? I was thinking of always going via wireguard to home then back out via pihole. I can’t find an ‘out of the box’ way to configure both together though. I have plenty of unused Linux boxes sitting around that could do this, I think.
Re:Show HN: DotYouTube – A tiny Chrome extension to block Yo...
by bgdam on Saturday July 11, 2020 @11:29AM
(#23802863)
If you're on Android, use Firefox for Android and install uBlock origin. You can also install Video Background Play fix add-on to force Youtube to keep playing in the background.
Re:Show HN: DotYouTube – A tiny Chrome extension to block Yo...
by tokamak-teapot on Sunday July 12, 2020 @06:27AM
(#23810344)
Thanks to those who replied. It looks like pi-hole doesn't block YouTube ads on mobile - and any other solutions (blocker, or non-official app) are Android only.
Looks like the best solution might be to use a web browser on iOS - and visit one of these sites:
Re:Show HN: DotYouTube – A tiny Chrome extension to block Yo...
by kgwxd on Saturday July 11, 2020 @11:29AM
(#23802864)
PiHole doesn't block YouTube app ads on any mobile platform but it's pretty great for other in-app ads. I'm not sure why, but I think it has something to do with how the ad data is bundled right in with the regular video stream.
Android Firefox with uBlock Origin has worked perfect for me so far.
Re:Show HN: DotYouTube – A tiny Chrome extension to block Yo...
by princekolt on Saturday July 11, 2020 @11:38AM
(#23802953)
Seems YouTube has some checks to see if the ad is running. I'm currently unable to watch videos because I just get a black rectangle, and if I click it it shows an error.
I've found an easy way to bypass this issue though: Click Share > Embed, the preview window is playable. Start playing video from there, put it on full screen, profit!!!
Re:Show HN: DotYouTube – A tiny Chrome extension to block Yo...
by lordofgibbons on Saturday July 11, 2020 @11:44AM
(#23803008)
I don't get this issue on either Firefox or Chrome on linux running with uBlock and Privacy Badger. Maybe you're part of the A/B test, and it has yet to be rolled out fully?
Re:Show HN: DotYouTube – A tiny Chrome extension to block Yo...
by trymas on Saturday July 11, 2020 @12:06PM
(#23803172)
I'd agree with the parent comment.
Couple weeks ago using ublock origin when browsing youtube would make youtube almost unusable. For me - if I'd have a direct link to video - the video would load and show, but the website itself wouldn't. Basically from user's point of view it was completely blank page with only video showing, no related videos, no comments, no like/dislike or anything. :)
So I needed to turn off ublock origin for youtube and everything came back to normal. I am using pihole though, but it was basically useless for youtube ads.
Though couple days ago, I've turned on ublock origin and youtube was working as usual and it was ad-less.
Re:Show HN: DotYouTube – A tiny Chrome extension to block Yo...
by chmaynard on Saturday July 11, 2020 @07:42PM
(#23807219)
My advice is to forget this nonsense and sign up for YouTube Premium. It's good for the soul, and the ladies appreciate guys who can pay their way in this world.
Re:Show HN: DotYouTube – A tiny Chrome extension to block Yo...
by tartoran on Saturday July 11, 2020 @11:20AM
(#23802796)
In terms of exploring music, yes, YouTube’s algorithm is terrible. There’s no real exploration, one keeps on falling into the same tracks over and over again. No matter how obscure a band or musician is eventually I will end up with the same playlists of promoted stuff. Are used to be a bit more random and it was better. I almost always am not interesated into the promoted results anyway
Re:Show HN: DotYouTube – A tiny Chrome extension to block Yo...
by satvikpendem on Sunday July 12, 2020 @06:49PM
(#23815406)
You can use uBlock Origin to block all ads, and use SponsorBlock to skip ads inside the video itself, such as sponsor promotions, and even intro/end sequences. It really cuts out all of the bullshit in YouTube videos.
Re:Show HN: DotYouTube – A tiny Chrome extension to block Yo...
by The_Founder on Saturday July 11, 2020 @09:30AM
(#23802071)
Tiny enough to paste the whole thing here. Clever trick to insert a "." after the .com that seems to trick some of the ad targeting. Wonder how many other sites this works on?
But ughhhhhh YouTube advertisements are so bad for me. I constantly get weird ”sexy witch girl” mobile game promos, I assume because I watch competitive Pokémon videos. (Spoiler, algorithm, gay male, don’t care about scantily glad witch girls.) Just grating dumb ads for stuff I definitely won’t buy.
And it doesn’t have to be that way, seemingly. Instagram has me targeted perfectly. I actually find interesting stuff to buy off Instagram ads. That algorithm has me down pat. I don’t find those ads disgusting it all. (Or I get a kick out of the insane Wish ads.)
I think part of that is their data compartmentalizing for privacy reasons (they won't use your Gmail emails to your mum complaining that your drain is blocked to recommend 'magic drain unblocking washing liquid'). It's probably a good thing, but the other platforms don't have any qualms using such data if they have it...
I also think they listen to the advertiser too much... For example, they give advertiser's a lot of control over who sees the ads, which creatives are used, what times of day to show them, etc.
It turns out a machine learning algorithm can do much better than a human at selecting when to show my ad...
Therefore, Google has a direct incentive to make their ads work better for advertisers.
I'll pay with money, but I'll never pay with my time. You don't get it back. Ad-blocker for me.
But at the end of the day. I'll just pay the 12 dollars to YouTube for the ad free experience and avoid channels that get to heavy handed with sponsors.
I have signed up and paid for a number of third party products and services because of quality, but limited sponsorship
I use youtube every single day so subscription( vs micro tx) make sense to me.
As far as I know, this trick does not work anymore.
Or just use uBlock Origin to block (All) the ads, on youtube and virtually all other sites.
Looks like the best solution might be to use a web browser on iOS - and visit one of these sites:
https://invidio.us
https://www.layluh.com
Android Firefox with uBlock Origin has worked perfect for me so far.
I've found an easy way to bypass this issue though: Click Share > Embed, the preview window is playable. Start playing video from there, put it on full screen, profit!!!
Couple weeks ago using ublock origin when browsing youtube would make youtube almost unusable. For me - if I'd have a direct link to video - the video would load and show, but the website itself wouldn't. Basically from user's point of view it was completely blank page with only video showing, no related videos, no comments, no like/dislike or anything. :)
So I needed to turn off ublock origin for youtube and everything came back to normal. I am using pihole though, but it was basically useless for youtube ads.
Though couple days ago, I've turned on ublock origin and youtube was working as usual and it was ad-less.
Anyway the algorithm of yt sucks, I only get the same content. Is there a better index?
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23479435
YouTube fixed this a week later
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23581118
That's exactly what your parent said:
> > YouTube fixed this a week later
> > https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23581118
https://github.com/omarroth/invidious
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