De-escalating social media conflict

Re:De-escalating social media conflict by nl on Sunday July 05, 2020 @12:52AM (#23736671)

> Today's backlashes against social media platforms is just the existing elites trying to take back their control.

That's not really the case, as can been seen by the hate given to both FB and Twitter on HN.

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Re:De-escalating social media conflict by austhrow743 on Sunday July 05, 2020 @01:20AM (#23736758)

HN is largely populated with the 1%.

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Re:De-escalating social media conflict by _tw9j on Sunday July 05, 2020 @05:51AM (#23737621)

I doubt that is true. SV crowd may be loud but they aren't the majority on HN.

Here's how I would group HN based on income, what keywords make them click and demography.

1. Old system admins, FOSS lovers, and retired due to age folks.

Around median income.

Keywords - vim, Emacs, firefox, awk, unions, inequality, privacy, new tech bad, linux, open source projects, go, haiku, history, and against-big-tech.

2. Fresh college graduate/ enrolled in CS or equivalents, teenagers, hermits, and recently laid off.

Below median income or none.

Keywords - education, degrees, FAANGs, interviews, privacy, income inequality, against-the-popular-social-media, against-google-apple, firefox, chrome, free-speech, thought-crime, and twittter.

3. SV crowd, founders, and employees of a big company.

Above median income.

Keywords - rent, homelessness, parenting, investment, CA, economics, happiness, open source but the profitable or commerical kind (kubernetes tool, cockroachdb, materialize), startups, climate change, big-company-profit-loss, apple, security and immigration.

4. Researchers and retired by choice.

Above Median or low/no income.

Passive consumers so they click on wide variety of keywords. Occasionally, participate in something related to their field.

5. Long time active HN members.

Above median or median income.

They click on most posts on the front page but comment in their own silos or interests. They help direct the site by filtering from new or stopping hoard of initial comments.

6. Marketers, sales and non-tech crowd.

Median or lower median income.

Keywords - medium article, heres-why, how-I, growth, crypto, ads, effective-ways-to, and the likes.

This is only my observation so it will be biased and wrong but I definitely don't think hners are 1%.

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Re:De-escalating social media conflict by zozbot234 on Sunday July 05, 2020 @05:59AM (#23737642)

I like how all of these groups have some reason to oppose big-tech and social media. It's like the one thing we can all agree on here at HN.

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Re:De-escalating social media conflict by nl on Sunday July 05, 2020 @10:22AM (#23738871)

I don't agree with either of these things.

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Re:De-escalating social media conflict by cnorthwood on Sunday July 05, 2020 @07:31AM (#23737949)

Median by what bar? Global, Silicon Valley, relative to their local area?

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Re:De-escalating social media conflict by searchableguy on Sunday July 05, 2020 @07:39AM (#23737972)

Relative to the local area.

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Re:De-escalating social media conflict by darepublic on Sunday July 05, 2020 @07:34AM (#23737957)

I feel like you omitted an obvious category; devs who don't work in SV

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Re:De-escalating social media conflict by searchableguy on Sunday July 05, 2020 @07:48AM (#23738001)

I didn't single it out to SV. But yes, I did omit a huge portion of devs. I couldn't find any patterns. A dev living in [country] will talk in threads about their [country]. Such details are obvious. But SV crowd talk about rent details of other countries or states which is a trend.

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Re:De-escalating social media conflict by nl on Sunday July 05, 2020 @03:59AM (#23737244)

Perhaps, in the financial sense.

But that's very different to the people who are typically refereed to as "the elites". That typically includes - for example - journalists - who aren't well paid at all.

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Re:De-escalating social media conflict by mdpopescu on Sunday July 05, 2020 @04:44AM (#23737397)

Journalists aren't the elite. They're the PR people working for the elite.

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Re:De-escalating social media conflict by nl on Sunday July 05, 2020 @10:24AM (#23738880)

I think the whole "elites" terminology is silly.

As a very broad generalisation it seems to mean "people who are richer or have a bigger voice than me who I disagree with.

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Re:De-escalating social media conflict by rapnie on Sunday July 05, 2020 @06:04AM (#23737656)

These generalizations and plattitudes are off the mark and dangerous. Sure, there are those working as PR for the elite, or they are honest journalists that work for MSM that is in the hands of the elites. Most journalists, especially investigative journalists want to do their job as well as they can, in an environment that is increasingly hostile to good journalism. We need these people to help keep our democracy intact.

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Re:De-escalating social media conflict by tonyedgecombe on Sunday July 05, 2020 @06:07AM (#23737665)

Using elite as a term of derision is rather silly anyway. Who else would you want running the country than the most skilled and accomplished?

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Re:De-escalating social media conflict by sukilot on Sunday July 05, 2020 @08:20AM (#23738133)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myth_of_meritocracy

I want a country where the median person is educated and grounded enough to make good choices about their community.

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Re:De-escalating social media conflict by Siira on Wednesday July 08, 2020 @03:46PM (#23773529)

This might not be possible. (“Myth of egalitarianism”)

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Re:De-escalating social media conflict by hnaccy on Sunday July 05, 2020 @06:36AM (#23737760)

People who have my interests in mind.

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Re:De-escalating social media conflict by tonyedgecombe on Sunday July 05, 2020 @07:59AM (#23738033)

I think you'll be waiting a long time for that. The most I hope for is that politicians interests might align with mine.

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