Re:YouTube TV sharply increases monthly subscription to $64.99
by Plough_Jogger on Tuesday June 30, 2020 @10:39PM
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An interesting aspect of Aereo's model is that they attempted to circumvent these regulations by leasing each customer an individual antenna which they could access remotely. They maintained "antenna farms" full of tiny antennas.
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Re:YouTube TV sharply increases monthly subscription to $64.99
by kangaroozach on Tuesday June 30, 2020 @10:42PM
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It was a brilliant $100m bet that backfired for no good reason.
Re:YouTube TV sharply increases monthly subscription to $64.99
by schnable on Wednesday July 01, 2020 @08:26AM
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No good reason? They tried to exploit a technical loophole that was clearly against the spirit of the contracts and law.
Re:YouTube TV sharply increases monthly subscription to $64.99
by Dylan16807 on Wednesday July 01, 2020 @08:43AM
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But there's no good reason that it's legal to buy a server and stick an antenna on it, but it's not legal to rent a preconfigured server that has an antenna on it.
There wouldn't be loopholes if the law was consistent, and I would argue there is no 'spirit' in such a confusing set of rules.
Re:YouTube TV sharply increases monthly subscription to $64.99
by nerfhammer on Tuesday June 30, 2020 @11:42PM
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always wondered if netflix couldn't have had warehouses full of dvd drives to avoid licensing fees. wouldn't work for new releases with a lot of peak demand but maybe it would be more feasible for the back catalog of older titles.
Re:YouTube TV sharply increases monthly subscription to $64.99
by raisedbyninjas on Wednesday July 01, 2020 @12:22AM
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Zediva did this for a while before they were shutdown. I guess this is a lesson on the risks of disrupting an industry through a loophole that can be shutdown by a single ruling.
Re:YouTube TV sharply increases monthly subscription to $64.99
by bonestamp2 on Wednesday July 01, 2020 @01:46AM
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When you buy a consumer DVD, that DVD only has a license for home viewing. Video stores require a special license to rent out videos. So, I assume netflix would have to pay that fee at least (which they probably already had for their mail order DVDs).
Re:YouTube TV sharply increases monthly subscription to $64.99
by toast0 on Wednesday July 01, 2020 @03:42AM
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> Video stores require a special license to rent out videos.
First sale doctrine covers rentals, but having good relations with studios to get supply of new releases often influences rental establishments to avoid buying discs at retail to rent out. (But, RedBox will sometimes do it)
Re:YouTube TV sharply increases monthly subscription to $64.99
by ballenf on Wednesday July 01, 2020 @09:21AM
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They agreed to stop a few years ago. Redbox used to break the "buy only" window of DVD releases. Meaning you could rent a movie from Redbox before it was available to rent on any streaming service.
They buckled from pressure from studios and agreed to stop for the reason you gave.
It kind of seemed at the time that they used their right to do this as a negotiating tactic in getting better prices from distributors.
Re:YouTube TV sharply increases monthly subscription to $64.99
by twic on Wednesday July 01, 2020 @02:09AM
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They wouldn't rent the DVD to you. They'd sell it to you, with an agreement to buy it back later on. First-sale doctrine, baby!
They might also need to sell you a short-term lease on that particular drive bay, so that you are playing the DVD in your own home too.
Re:YouTube TV sharply increases monthly subscription to $64.99
by nsgi on Wednesday July 01, 2020 @02:36AM
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Would they be able to achieve that without using libdvdcss which could cause legal problems? Also, I think most people want HD or 4k these days
Re:YouTube TV sharply increases monthly subscription to $64.99
by kevin_thibedeau on Wednesday July 01, 2020 @12:44AM
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A "matrix" for DVDs, safely ensconced in their little pods until their master grows weary and evicts them to the discount bins.
Re:YouTube TV sharply increases monthly subscription to $64.99
by Hamuko on Wednesday July 01, 2020 @02:29AM
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Wouldn't want to be in charge of maintaining the system that has to handle the DVD and DVD drive farm.
Re:YouTube TV sharply increases monthly subscription to $64.99
by exikyut on Wednesday July 01, 2020 @02:00AM
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Wow, what did that look like?