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Re:Using human brain tissue in lab, researchers show herpes ... by winrid on Wednesday May 06, 2020 @03:14PM (#23095093)
So what does this mean if you get a cold sore every year or two? You're more likely to get Alzheimer's?
Re:Using human brain tissue in lab, researchers show herpes ... by vikramkr on Wednesday May 06, 2020 @03:36PM (#23095334)
Maybe. Maybe not. To know that for sure, you'd want two large studies to be done. One showing correlation between having cold sores and AD. And then, one where some people are cured of HSV (I don't think we really have a cure yet...) and where others are given a placebo, with long term tracking to see if intervention reduces AD. That sort of work is how the link between cholesterol levels and heart failures was demonstrated.

This paper isn't even really about the Alzheimers-herpes link, it's more about demoing how you can use HSV-1 with their brain structure to get what looks like a good model of Alzheimers disease. What they gave the model might not even be "real" Alzheimers. Their goal was to develop a really good research tool[0], not necessarily to show an AD/HSV link, and the cells in their model, as induced neuronal stem cells redifferentiated into brain-like tissue on a scaffold, might not be truly reacting like cells in your brain.

[0] from the discussion in the paper, here's the first line emphasizing the takeaway:

"Generating in vitro human models of sporadic AD poses a considerable challenge because of the complex, undefined etiology and slow disease progression that naturally occurs in patients. Here, we describe a multidisciplinary approach to address this critical need by generating robust and physiologically relevant 3D human tissues for studying sporadic AD through the use of hiNSC technology and HSV-1 in combination with a bioengineered brain tissue model."

The herpes-AD link is somewhat supported by this since clearly adding HSV to this brain model caused these AD-like developments, but that could be a factor of how the cells used to make these models react and their physiology might be different as differentiated induced stem cells.

Re:Using human brain tissue in lab, researchers show herpes ... by TheSpiceIsLife on Wednesday May 06, 2020 @03:16PM (#23095109)
It means you’re not getting enough lysine at those times.
Re:Using human brain tissue in lab, researchers show herpes ... by mylons on Wednesday May 06, 2020 @03:21PM (#23095165)
Source on info? Can you supplement with lysine?
Re:Using human brain tissue in lab, researchers show herpes ... by HarryHirsch on Wednesday May 06, 2020 @03:27PM (#23095230)
Not really efficaceous: https://www.cochrane.org/CD010095/SKIN_measures-preventing-c...

My vet said the same (chronic respiratory problems in cats are often caused by feline herpesvirus). The effect on the cat is at best slight.

Re:Using human brain tissue in lab, researchers show herpes ... by pixelpoet on Wednesday May 06, 2020 @11:53PM (#23099537)
I'm not sure if anecdotes are allowed or welcomed, hope this is okay: Around 2003 I learnt about lysine having something to do with preventing HSV-1, so I got some and took some large doses until the bottle was finished. Haven't had a cold sore since, and I was getting them ~yearly before. Sometimes I can feel the tingling and think shiiit, here it comes again finally, but I never really had a proper breakout.

Also, the more I hear about the HSV/Alzheimer's link, the more I freak out about my shitty memory :(

Re:Using human brain tissue in lab, researchers show herpes ... by x3n0ph3n3 on Thursday May 07, 2020 @03:41AM (#23100684)
> Sometimes I can feel the tingling

That's the viral shedding.

Re:Using human brain tissue in lab, researchers show herpes ... by pixelpoet on Thursday May 07, 2020 @04:28AM (#23100925)
Correct. In case it was unclear, I didn't mean to imply that I'm "cured", only that I've never had an outbreak since then.
Re:Using human brain tissue in lab, researchers show herpes ... by tejtm on Wednesday May 06, 2020 @04:56PM (#23096186)
Only anecdotal, but yes.

Supplement before if I know I will be increasing UV exposure. e.g. visiting high desert

Visiting know stressful environment. (choose your own adventure)

Or if I think I might be starting to feel one coming on.

Outbreaks in the decades after are way down from outbreaks from the decades before, but please do remember correlation is not causation and becoming a person who can consider mitigation may be more significant then the particular ritual.

Oh and prescription anti-virals work wonders.

Re:Using human brain tissue in lab, researchers show herpes ... by ncmncm on Thursday May 07, 2020 @02:18PM (#23106250)
I used to supplement with a huge oversupply of lysine, enough that I could smell it on my skin, and taste it in my saliva. I could never detect any effect, whether shortening an outbreak, reducing severity, or preventing an outbreak. I have had to conclude that nerve cells that host the virus manage to keep excess lysine outside the cell.

A peanut or nut binge would definitely worsen an outbreak, though.

Oral acyclovir also has no effect on the strain(s) I have. I have had an outbreak start while taking acyclovir prophylactically, and proceed through the whole cycle.

Valacyclovir 1000mg still works. Initially, one tablet. Now, 2 or 3.

Re:Using human brain tissue in lab, researchers show herpes ... by sephlietz on Wednesday May 06, 2020 @03:23PM (#23095185)
Re:Using human brain tissue in lab, researchers show herpes ... by petargyurov on Thursday May 07, 2020 @05:22AM (#23101181)
Here is a nice round up of the known evidence: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6419779/

TLDR: "Longer duration controlled studies of daily lysine doses exceeding 1.2 g/d are required to definitively test its role in herpes simplex prophylaxis"

EDIT: After reading through the provided table, to me it seems that most studies show little to no evidence that Lysine doses help against the virus. It looks like it's mostly placebo. (Disclaimer, I am not a virologist, this is my take on the paper.)

Re:Using human brain tissue in lab, researchers show herpes ... by xwdv on Wednesday May 06, 2020 @03:27PM (#23095221)
Basically yes, but the good news is there’s still plenty of time to find a cure before it hits you.