reminds me of my favorite post in response to the latest macbook pro keyboard (can't remember if I saw it here or on reddit).

> When we changed the key travel from 1.0mm to 0.5mm, it was so much better that it became the best keyboard in the world. And now, with the change from 0.5mm to 1.0mm, we’ve made it even better than ever: Welcome to the world’s best typing experience.

You saw it at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21523873 , no doubt. (-:

ty for tracking down the source. truly a great comment.

Bullshit has no bounds in this worid.

This is almost literally straight of out 1984. I actually can't believe they wrote that.

Apple didn’t, if that is what you mean.

They didn't - it's a parody.

Let's just be happy they eventually fix their mistakes. :)

Obviously the marketing copy is going to put positive spin however they can. That's what marketing is, and what mostly any other company would write as well.

I'm just grateful!

I'd love a glimpse inside the room when they write that sort of copy. Are they all super serious about it? Or laughing their asses off?

The novelty must have worn off, a long time ago. Almost all announcements of updates to existing products, look like a copypasta, they probably have templates and a well-oiled PR machinery to follow through.

Extrapolating from the cult-like following of Apple products: there's no way they don't fully believe this themselves.

They're admitting they were wrong about the last keyboard design, but do you expect a product announcement to come out and say "Our last four years of computers have had pretty shit keyboards, but we finally unfucked it!"

I wish they would — that would be refreshing

Just "A Keyboard that works" would do the job.

I read that post from my 2012 MacBook and did a double take a that part. I glanced down at my 8 year old Apple keyboard and, sure enough, it has the exact same layout.

Mid 2012 MBP with swapped out internals...8 years later and still the best computer I've ever owned

Most other laptop keyboards crams a pgup/pgdown key around the up key though. I often rest one of the fingers in that space making the laptop arrowkeys a bit annoying to use.

Dell leaves that space free (like this new MacBook Air) and instead has pgup/down, Pos1/End as secondary functions on the Fn-(Up/Down/Left/Right) key combos. I really like how that puts all navigation keys in one place.

I have used Acer, Dell, HP, and Lenovo. Lenovo swaps the FN and CTRL compared to everyone else, cannot stand that keyboard as it messing with muscle memory. After moving from a Dell XPS-13 to a HP Envy 13, HP has the best keyboard experience on a laptop. Having the PU, PD, END, HOME as a separate column on the right makes life grand, no FN + action needed to use some of the most useful keys when reading or viewing content.

It's like moving the headphone jack (when they had one) from the bottom to the top and back.

The Macbook Air doesn't have a headphone jack? Wow.

It does. He was talking about iPhone headphone jack port placement journey.

Oh, I see. I thought that was news I missed or something.

Did anybody ask for an opinion on that? At worse the parent misattributed a pronoun which can be fixed with a clarification from the grandparent ("actually it's a she" etc). At best he's correct, as it's more likely statistically given the demographics here.

> Did anybody ask for an opinion on that?

Don't be an asshole.

Parent misattributed the pronoun, sure. And then they were asked to not do that.

>Don't be an asshole.

Oh, the irony!

>Parent misattributed the pronoun, sure. And then they were asked to not do that

Not sure at all that they misattributed anything.

And they weren't asked. They were lectured "on principle". And not even by the supposedly offended person, but from a third party that had nothing topical to contribute to their discussion.

Imagine for a second that you were constantly being assumed to be an incorrect gender. And let's further assume that it bothered you. Would you want to spend all your time telling people to not assume your gender (and consider the high possibility that they're going to get a reaction like this)?

No, you're not. And so every dude on this thing is going to use "he" everywhere cause "no-one's complaining". And then when people who prefer different gender pronouns come in, they're going to see people being assholes about gender pronouns, and they're going to say "fuck this" and leave (note, they're not going to reply either, cause they also are sick of it).

And so to prevent that, people other than the "supposedly offended person" need to step in, even if they weren't asked.

I'm not going to reply to further discussion here. I hope this was useful to you.

If it bothers you, you can choose not to be bothered by it.

Yes it does. Op was talking about the phone.

It does.

Wow what? I don’t get it. You really want wires? Why? Just because? Nostalgia?

What’s the deal? It’s not sound quality, that’s for sure.

No, as a customer, I want CHOICE. People act as if having a headphone jack vs using bluetooth headphones are completely mutually exclusive things. I sometimes find downright aggression towards people who still want to keep a headphone jack. A laptop is a general computing device - maybe I'll want to plug in my fully working wired headphones, maybe I'll want to use bluetooth ones. Who knows. But I hate it when companies take this choice away from me, because "progress" or some other nonsense. And then you go online and people say that you must be weird for wanting to keep the jack around - why? What's bothering you so much about having an extra port that you can but don't have to use?

From a strictly cost/business perspective it's brilliant. Remove hardware you have to pay for embedded in your device and sell people an adapter at an increased price.

Ok, misguided idealism. Sure, same old, same old.

Because none of the professional grade studio monitors, DJ headphones, or in-ear monitors that I own are wireless?

You’re not using that on a Mac air.

Because I forgot to charge my wireless and I have a meeting in 2 minutes.

Music production. Bluetooth has unfixable crap latency.

You’re not doing that from a Mac air.

Why not? You can do it on an iPad too. I used to produce music on my Pentium 3 PC with ReBirth.

Did Apple marketing do that for the Escape key, too?