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Re:Sucralose with carbohydrates may blunt the body’s ability... by toomuchtodo on Tuesday March 10, 2020 @11:02AM (#22536013)
I like sweet things in my coffee. I also like not being overweight. Hence, sucralose in my coffee and 1000mg daily of metformin (taken for life extension purposes, second order effect is lowering blood sugar level). The right answer need not be "abstain from what you enjoy" if we can hack together a solution from diet and engineered compounds.
Re:Sucralose with carbohydrates may blunt the body’s ability... by rconti on Tuesday March 10, 2020 @01:37PM (#22537531)
Sugar in your coffee ain't gonna make you overweight.

Have real sugar, don't take sketchy drugs, live a generally healthy balanced life.

Re:Sucralose with carbohydrates may blunt the body’s ability... by Spooky23 on Tuesday March 10, 2020 @11:28AM (#22536252)
Metformin is a pretty serious drug and that is a high dose. It's one thing to use it for off-label use like PCOS, but I would be very cautious for a more nebulous use.
Re:Sucralose with carbohydrates may blunt the body’s ability... by toomuchtodo on Tuesday March 10, 2020 @11:39AM (#22536355)
Metformin is fairly safe and toxicity doesn't occur until you reach doses that are many, many times higher than therapeutic doses [1] [2]. Not a doctor, not your doctor, talk to your GP before starting such a regimen (especially for healthy kidney and liver function). My prescription was a 3 minute convo after my annual physical ("its safe, my kidneys and liver are working, I want to live longer [3] [4], and I will sign a waiver I won't hold you liable if necessary"), and I would've just ordered it online if my doctor said no.

[1] https://care.diabetesjournals.org/content/35/4/731

[2] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5934269/

[3] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25041462

[4] https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT02432287

Re:Sucralose with carbohydrates may blunt the body’s ability... by trenning on Tuesday March 10, 2020 @12:10PM (#22536673)
What does metformin do for therapeutic purposes? wiki doesn't allude to much besides diabetes treatment.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metformin

Re:Sucralose with carbohydrates may blunt the body’s ability... by trenning on Tuesday March 10, 2020 @12:45PM (#22537041)
thanks I missed that section!
Re:Sucralose with carbohydrates may blunt the body’s ability... by TylerE on Tuesday March 10, 2020 @02:36PM (#22538152)
Basically, the TLDR is that it makes the insulin your body produces work better.

The nice thing about it is that it can't drive your blood sugar low.

Re:Sucralose with carbohydrates may blunt the body’s ability... by ketamine__ on Tuesday March 10, 2020 @11:53AM (#22536498)
Did you have diarrhea when you started Metformin?
Re:Sucralose with carbohydrates may blunt the body’s ability... by toomuchtodo on Tuesday March 10, 2020 @11:54AM (#22536516)
None. Some people do, it is a documented side effect.
Re:Sucralose with carbohydrates may blunt the body’s ability... by fredsanford on Tuesday March 10, 2020 @03:50PM (#22538915)
Not just diarrhea but this horrible greasy concoction that required a shower...

Metformin could be sold as an ultra laxative for some folks...

Re:Sucralose with carbohydrates may blunt the body’s ability... by vonmoltke on Tuesday March 10, 2020 @01:58PM (#22537796)
> Metformin is a pretty serious drug and that is a high dose.

According to a former endocrinologist of mine, 1000mg daily is the lowest effective dose. 500mg pills are the lowest dose available. What is your source for 1000mg being a "high dose"?

Re:Sucralose with carbohydrates may blunt the body’s ability... by Spooky23 on Wednesday March 11, 2020 @09:40AM (#22545713)
For diabetes or PCOS, sure.

What is the effective dose for general life extension?

Re:Sucralose with carbohydrates may blunt the body’s ability... by airstrike on Tuesday March 10, 2020 @10:40PM (#22542440)
If you reduce the amount of sweetener slowly, you will likely eventually get used to just drinking coffee black.

I've suggested this to 5 different people over the course of my life and it worked for 100% of them.

Feel free to ignore this suggestion, but I can't see any downsides ;-) Worst case scenario is you're still drinking the same amount of sweetener a few months from now

Re:Sucralose with carbohydrates may blunt the body’s ability... by jtdev on Tuesday March 10, 2020 @11:26AM (#22536226)
I like smoking a pack of cigarettes a day and eating candy bars - I'll just switch to vaping and granola bars so I can still do what I enjoy.
Re:Sucralose with carbohydrates may blunt the body’s ability... by toomuchtodo on Tuesday March 10, 2020 @11:28AM (#22536249)
Can't tell if /s. Life is meant to be lived. Make healthier choices, but still enjoy. Otherwise, what's the point?
Re:Sucralose with carbohydrates may blunt the body’s ability... by jtdev on Tuesday March 10, 2020 @11:35AM (#22536317)
Yes, being healthy is enjoyable. Sometimes protecting ones health means not doing those things that provide superficial, temporary feelings of joy (junk food, artificial sweeteners that could lead to cancer and other health issues, smoking, etc.) that are in fact bad for our health and likely to reduce long term joy.
Re:Sucralose with carbohydrates may blunt the body’s ability... by stronglikedan on Tuesday March 10, 2020 @11:45AM (#22536423)
You can do just about anything in moderation and it won't be bad for you, short or long term. For example, having a cigarette or two a week over a few beers with some friends. Completely abstaining from superficial, temporary feelings of joy can be detrimental to some people when they finally do give into temptation.
Re:Sucralose with carbohydrates may blunt the body’s ability... by aluth on Tuesday March 10, 2020 @12:12PM (#22536690)

  Life is meant to be lived.
A tautology at best, but more likely empty rhetoric.

  Make healthier choices, but still enjoy.
This assumes healthy choices cannot produce enjoyment.

  Otherwise, what's the point?
In our modern times, it seems to me, the point of life is whatever you make of it. I'm getting the impression that the point of your life is to experience as much pleasure as possible, i.e.: hedonism. This is a perfectly valid approach to one's life, but I wouldn't assume that others are getting less enjoyment out of their existence simply because they choose to impose constraints on the pleasures they pursue.