Counterfeits on Amazon cost Warren bird feeder business $1.5M

Re:Counterfeits on Amazon cost Warren bird feeder business $... by jacobkg on Wednesday December 25, 2019 @05:31PM (#21880843)

Fun aside, if you buy a cheap wall clock from a big box store, you can often swap out the clock movement with a vastly superior one for very little money. A nice Seiko movement with a sweep second hand can be had for under $20.

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Re:Counterfeits on Amazon cost Warren bird feeder business $... by brianwawok on Wednesday December 25, 2019 @05:38PM (#21880874)

But why would you want a nice movement on a cardboard clock? At that point you spend another few dollars for a nicer package.

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Re:Counterfeits on Amazon cost Warren bird feeder business $... by exhilaration on Wednesday December 25, 2019 @07:41PM (#21881321)

But how do you that Seiko movement you're buying isn't counterfeit?

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Re:Counterfeits on Amazon cost Warren bird feeder business $... by starpilot on Wednesday December 25, 2019 @05:57PM (#21880969)

Is the cheap quartz movement that it comes with insufficiently accurate?

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Re:Counterfeits on Amazon cost Warren bird feeder business $... by Xamayon on Wednesday December 25, 2019 @06:26PM (#21881062)

Accuracy is mostly fine in my experience, but the battery life is often poor and they tend to be relatively loud. I like quiet, so the noise is more than enough reason to swap the movement when easy imho.

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Re:Counterfeits on Amazon cost Warren bird feeder business $... by rladd on Wednesday December 25, 2019 @06:58PM (#21881174)

I have a $12 Ikea clock that looks rather like a Swiss train clock (not exactly of course) and which keeps nearly perfect time and runs for over a year on one battery.

It is miles better than the $5 Ikea clock, but I see no reason to pay more since the $12 one looks good and runs perfectly well.

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Re:Counterfeits on Amazon cost Warren bird feeder business $... by muzika on Thursday December 26, 2019 @12:50AM (#21882228)

One year on a battery is nothing to be proud of :)

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Re:Counterfeits on Amazon cost Warren bird feeder business $... by toast0 on Thursday December 26, 2019 @01:41AM (#21882370)

If you care about an alkaline battery powered item, it's in your interests to change the batteries once a year --- it's the easiest way to avoid battery leakage.

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Re:Counterfeits on Amazon cost Warren bird feeder business $... by certera on Thursday December 26, 2019 @01:37AM (#21882357)

Ya, but what kind of battery?

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Re:Counterfeits on Amazon cost Warren bird feeder business $... by tomcam on Wednesday December 25, 2019 @08:52PM (#21881601)

Not trying to be snarky, genuinely interested: what are the advantages of the superior movement?

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Re:Counterfeits on Amazon cost Warren bird feeder business $... by ngorge on Wednesday December 25, 2019 @09:52PM (#21881769)

The gears are manufactured to better tolerances. This means they make a lot less noise. A cheap movement can be heard across the room, a Seiko is silent.

Because the parts fit better, there is less friction. Less of a load on the motor means the battery lasts much longer in a Seiko.

They also keep time better.

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Re:Counterfeits on Amazon cost Warren bird feeder business $... by halbritt on Wednesday December 25, 2019 @11:20PM (#21882001)

A great deal of their reputation is based on their ability to produce precise quartz movements, ostensibly resistant to temperature changes, etc.

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Re:Counterfeits on Amazon cost Warren bird feeder business $... by ryanmercer on Thursday December 26, 2019 @06:45AM (#21883211)

>This means they make a lot less noise. A cheap movement can be heard across the room,

I laughed out loud as I can hear my alarm clock ticking 8ft away thunk, thunk, thunk, thunk quite loudly. You can actually hear it from the living room if the TV is off, perhaps I should look into something made a bit better.

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Re:Counterfeits on Amazon cost Warren bird feeder business $... by Danieru on Wednesday December 25, 2019 @09:36PM (#21881722)

Reading the sales data: no tick sounds. Presumably less drift as well.

That most people do not care about the quality of the movement is why Wal-Mart has lots of shells with the same movements.

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Re:Counterfeits on Amazon cost Warren bird feeder business $... by tartoran on Wednesday December 25, 2019 @09:34PM (#21881719)

It lasts forever

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