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Re:PIA: Our Merger with Kape Technologies – Addressing Your ... by vincengomes on Saturday November 23, 2019 @03:24AM (#21613082)
Usually, Subreddits are created by fans of the service. This is the first time I'm noticing a complete corporate subreddit. All the moderators are the staff of PIA. [1]

It will be interesting to see how much they accept criticisms on the subreddit about PIA.

1. https://old.reddit.com/r/PrivateInternetAccess/about/moderat...

Re:PIA: Our Merger with Kape Technologies – Addressing Your ... by donatj on Saturday November 23, 2019 @08:38AM (#21614035)
The Go language subreddit had been modded by Google employees. They lost interest and decided to shut it down and there was a bunch of hubbub. In the end they thankfully decided to give the subreddit to the community.
Re:PIA: Our Merger with Kape Technologies – Addressing Your ... by mattkrause on Saturday November 23, 2019 @09:22AM (#21614220)
Google capriciously shut something down?!
Re:PIA: Our Merger with Kape Technologies – Addressing Your ... by bla3 on Saturday November 23, 2019 @03:38AM (#21613117)
It's not that uncommon. The stadia subreddit mods are all Google employees as well, for example. I agree it's not an ideal setup.
Re:PIA: Our Merger with Kape Technologies – Addressing Your ... by slenk on Saturday November 23, 2019 @10:39PM (#21618185)
It's technically against the Reddiquette:

  Please Don't

  ...

  Take moderation positions in a community where your profession, employment, or biases 
  could pose a direct conflict of interest to the neutral and user driven nature of reddit.
https://www.reddit.com/wiki/reddiquette
Re:PIA: Our Merger with Kape Technologies – Addressing Your ... by tinodotim on Saturday November 23, 2019 @11:06PM (#21618283)
Something to add though, it's informal.

> Reddiquette is an informal expression of the values of many redditors, as written by redditors themselve

But I guess it makes sense for Reddit to move away from that rule. That's how you get big campaigns with companies like Adobe. Not by taking away their sub-reddits.

Personally I think I even prefer that though. Better than having heavily biased "community moderators", which is the case in way too many sub-reddits.

Re:PIA: Our Merger with Kape Technologies – Addressing Your ... by IntelMiner on Saturday November 23, 2019 @06:52AM (#21613674)
I seem to recall the "League of Legends" subreddit having a meltdown when its mods were found to be simply compromised by the company, rather than employed by it
Re:PIA: Our Merger with Kape Technologies – Addressing Your ... by jrockway on Saturday November 23, 2019 @09:39AM (#21614291)
Reddit was not happy with the r/Blizzard mods during the blitzchung thing.

Redditors are basically never happy with anything. Their ideal world is some place with no rules except that everyone else is forced to read their comments. Unfortunately, such a place does not exist.

Re:PIA: Our Merger with Kape Technologies – Addressing Your ... by inapis on Saturday November 23, 2019 @11:42AM (#21614948)
Most forums on the internet are like that and it’s not exactly unexpected because people who care about writing something in an Internet forum will also be pedantic about what they want. This forum is no exception (you can pretty much see this in action whenever electron is mentioned)

Many people try to reduce complex multi-variate situations into simple variable situations and then lambast people on other forums if their chosen variable turns out to be different.

I just saw an example of this last week in mobilereads forum. Unhappy with iBooks and the kindle apps I’ve been reliant on Marvin for quite a time. But the dev has vanished from the scene for last 2 years. I just investigated if creating a commercial replacement would be a good idea but good god, the one forum where people have been talking about Marvin can have extremely ultra specific needs for a very unreasonable price expectation. After reading that forum I’m not exactly surprised that the dev chose to abandon the goal post.

Re:PIA: Our Merger with Kape Technologies – Addressing Your ... by criddell on Saturday November 23, 2019 @10:02AM (#21614440)
I don't really have a problem with it when anybody can create /r/stadia2 and do a better job.
Re:PIA: Our Merger with Kape Technologies – Addressing Your ... by Semaphor on Saturday November 23, 2019 @07:28AM (#21613790)
Happens a few times. For the Endless Space/Legends series of games, we made their community manager a mod (they are essentially running the subs, but don’t have founder status and technically we could intervene if they behave in questionable way). It usually depends on who created the sub. Some of them are set up as official channels, others are community-run but with good relationship with the company (an example for the latter would be the paradox subreddits, they are independent but have a good relationship with Paradox).
Re:PIA: Our Merger with Kape Technologies – Addressing Your ... by sneak on Saturday November 23, 2019 @04:59AM (#21613340)
The Peloton subreddit is full of non-disclosed astroturfing accounts.
Re:PIA: Our Merger with Kape Technologies – Addressing Your ... by maaaats on Saturday November 23, 2019 @05:49AM (#21613496)
What are they astroturfing? TdF vs Giro? Contaminated beefs? Caliper vs disk brakes?

Edit: or are you talking about something else than r/peloton?

Re:PIA: Our Merger with Kape Technologies – Addressing Your ... by timdorr on Saturday November 23, 2019 @09:34AM (#21614275)
They may mean r/pelotoncycle, which is for the in-home exercise bike.
Re:PIA: Our Merger with Kape Technologies – Addressing Your ... by gerikson on Saturday November 23, 2019 @06:29AM (#21613604)
> Contaminated beefs

I’m not that into cycling, what’s this about?

Re:PIA: Our Merger with Kape Technologies – Addressing Your ... by maaaats on Saturday November 23, 2019 @07:02AM (#21613702)
Alberto Contador initially won Tour de France in 2010, but tested positive for traces of clenbuterol. He blamed it on meat he had been eating. It has become a meme in cycling circles.
Re:PIA: Our Merger with Kape Technologies – Addressing Your ... by rasengan on Saturday November 23, 2019 @09:45AM (#21614337)
Whether critical or loving, we really appreciate any and all feedback from our users and the community. We accept all criticism with open arms and, furthermore, will not be censoring our subreddit as that would undermine free speech - the very thing we are fighting for.
Re:PIA: Our Merger with Kape Technologies – Addressing Your ... by syshum on Saturday November 23, 2019 @06:41AM (#21613636)
I thought that was against Site Rules? To have employees be the mod's
Re:PIA: Our Merger with Kape Technologies – Addressing Your ... by Sebb767 on Saturday November 23, 2019 @09:46AM (#21614341)
It's tolerated but advised against as far as I know.
Re:PIA: Our Merger with Kape Technologies – Addressing Your ... by spilk on Saturday November 23, 2019 @11:44AM (#21614964)
the /r/pfSense subreddit also has a bunch of Netgate staff as moderators
Re:PIA: Our Merger with Kape Technologies – Addressing Your ... by xrftghvb on Saturday November 23, 2019 @09:48AM (#21614349)
r/bitcoin was taken over by Blockstream corporation and it's heavily moderated.

Open discussion of Bitcoin is at r/btc. https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/9lfjrb/frequently_aske...

Re:PIA: Our Merger with Kape Technologies – Addressing Your ... by lawn on Saturday November 23, 2019 @01:04PM (#21615460)
"Heavily moderated" does it a huge disservice. The narrative is controlled, with any dissenting opinions removed and accounts banned. The sub is completely censored, see for example:

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/83vgdm/a_collection_of...

https://medium.com/@johnblocke/a-brief-and-incomplete-histor...

https://www.trustnodes.com/2019/05/01/the-cryptocurrency-sub...

https://www.reddit.com/r/noncensored_bitcoin/comments/7414nf...

Re:PIA: Our Merger with Kape Technologies – Addressing Your ... by grubles on Saturday November 23, 2019 @05:31PM (#21617067)
That, of course, has nothing to do with Blockstream.
Re:PIA: Our Merger with Kape Technologies – Addressing Your ... by lawn on Sunday November 24, 2019 @01:41AM (#21618823)
Except that all Blockstream projects are not only allowed, but promoted on r/bitcoin. If the subs own rules were followed they should be banned.

For example how Liquid, a centralized sidechain that goes against the idea of cryptocurrencies, is promoted as a "solution" to many of Bitcoins problems. But any critique of it is banned.

It's obvious that the mods are somehow associated with Blockstream. Only a Blockstream employee such as yourself would disagree.

Re:PIA: Our Merger with Kape Technologies – Addressing Your ... by grubles on Saturday November 23, 2019 @10:24AM (#21614553)
This is an outright lie.

In fact, r/btc is controlled by for-profit entity (bitcoin,com which has little to nothing to do with Bitcoin the project) and has advertisements blasted all over the subreddit page.

Re:PIA: Our Merger with Kape Technologies – Addressing Your ... by BubRoss on Saturday November 23, 2019 @01:04PM (#21615468)
It is the furthest thing from a lie and can be verified by anyone who wants to try posting to both subreddits. Anyone can also go to a site that shows deleted comments and see the discussions that get deleted on /r/bitcoin.
Re:PIA: Our Merger with Kape Technologies – Addressing Your ... by grubles on Saturday November 23, 2019 @05:22PM (#21617015)
The point is no one even remotely involved with Blockstream is in a moderator position in r/bitcoin.

This is in contrast to r/btc, which is absolutely indisputably run by Bitcoin,com (the business) employees.

Re:PIA: Our Merger with Kape Technologies – Addressing Your ... by BubRoss on Saturday November 23, 2019 @05:36PM (#21617091)
That's an obvious lie, people payed by blockstream directly or indirectly have been in control of the sub for years, deleting any thread or comment that contradicts the narrative they want to push.
Re:PIA: Our Merger with Kape Technologies – Addressing Your ... by grubles on Saturday November 23, 2019 @05:39PM (#21617106)
The difference between my claims and yours is I challenge readers to validate the claims themselves instead of taking my word for it.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21614951

Re:PIA: Our Merger with Kape Technologies – Addressing Your ... by BubRoss on Monday November 25, 2019 @11:53PM (#21635725)
This is a well worn topic and I think you know that. Surely you realize that anyone can google bockstream takeover on reddit, but are counting on people not doing research.

https://old.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/7eszwk/links_related_t...

https://old.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/bjysut/ueragmus_works_...

https://old.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/7h0isc/the_story_how_h...

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Re:PIA: Our Merger with Kape Technologies – Addressing Your ... by grubles on Saturday November 23, 2019 @11:42AM (#21614951)
Verify my claim yourself. Check the sidebar. It's nearly all adverts for Bitcoin,com products. https://old.reddit.com/r/btc/

/u/memorydealers was formerly the CEO of Bitcoin,com. Now he is in some lesser role.

Most of the mods are employees of Bitcoin,com.

e.g. /u/BitcoinXio, /u/MagmaHindenberg is CTO, etc.

Claiming r/btc is some user-run subreddit is quite literally lying.

Re:PIA: Our Merger with Kape Technologies – Addressing Your ... by BubRoss on Saturday November 23, 2019 @12:58PM (#21615422)
This is meant for people who aren't familiar with the takeover of the Bitcoin GitHub and subreddit. /r/bitcoin deletes anything that goes against blockstream's narrative while /r/btc is an open discussion. /r/btc is constantly trolled with full on lies.

The effort is all to keep Bitcoin constrained to never increase its throughout so that people will be forced to use blockstream's awkward and unnecessary layer in top. This is why all the original developers and more were replaced with people funded by blockstream. While there are many contributors listed on GitHub there is very little development allowed to be merged from outsiders.

If anyone doubts this, go try to have a discussion of increasing the block size on /r/Bitcoin and see how fast your comments are deleted or your account banned. Make sure to look at it without your main account. At best they will tell you it is impossible even though many other cryptocurrencies have done it with no problems (and anyone can see that the resource usage is tiny). These things can be independently verified.

Re:PIA: Our Merger with Kape Technologies – Addressing Your ... by lawn on Saturday November 23, 2019 @12:59PM (#21615427)
It's easy to check the sidebar. There are links to bitcoin.com and a bunch of others as well.

> Most of the mods are employees of Bitcoin,com.

Funny, how you're the one quite literally lying. It's called psychological projection.

Of course, the Blockstream propaganda is what destroyed r/bitcoin, and it's quite common here on hacker news as well. Just look at who's writing the comment...

Re:PIA: Our Merger with Kape Technologies – Addressing Your ... by mynameisvlad on Saturday November 23, 2019 @12:00PM (#21615042)
They never claimed that. Only that open discussion can be found at r/btc.

Also, please stop using a comma in the name of the site. It’s not doing you any favours, your bias is transparently clear.