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Re:In Its First Funding in 14 Years, 1Password Raises $200M ... by jliptzin on Thursday November 14, 2019 @11:26AM (#21536716)
I haven’t tried 1password, I have been using LastPass, would you recommend I switch?
Re:In Its First Funding in 14 Years, 1Password Raises $200M ... by warpech on Thursday November 14, 2019 @11:32AM (#21536763)
Bitwarden IMO beats LastPass and 1Password. Very polished, hassle free experience
Re:In Its First Funding in 14 Years, 1Password Raises $200M ... by hoistbypetard on Friday November 15, 2019 @05:27AM (#21543776)
I switched to bitwarden from 1password when frustration with mac laptop hardware drove me to a thinkpad running fedora workstation as a daily driver and 1password's new stuff wouldn't run well in wine.

I run a self-hosted bitwarden server, which I love.

But the client is, in my opinion, not nearly as good as 1password. Its login detection is often disruptively wrong. The need to unlock the keychain each time you start a client is aggravating. The fact that the keychain doesn't lock itself when I lock the worstation is more aggravating. It's sensitive to server downtime when it should be able to work offline. The desktop app is either electron or something very similar and chews battery for me if I accidentally leave it running. 1password's secure notes are far richer. 1password's storage for software licenses is useful and bitwarden offers nothing similar that I've been able to find.

I'm not saying any of this to shit on bitwarden. I like it, and pay for it both in dollars to bitwarden and in time spent keeping the server running/patched. (Which I know is optional, but I really like having it self-hosted).

If 1password could offer me a decent linux desktop experience and a self hosted server, I'd switch back. I liked it that much better.

Re:In Its First Funding in 14 Years, 1Password Raises $200M ... by yardie on Thursday November 14, 2019 @11:50AM (#21536926)
I have 1Password and Bitwarden on my screen right now. Bitwarden does not hold a candle to 1Password. There is no Watchtower or MFA availability notification. Yes, BW is a password manager, and that is about it.
Re:In Its First Funding in 14 Years, 1Password Raises $200M ... by prophesi on Thursday November 14, 2019 @01:39PM (#21538048)
Actually, Bitwarden does have its own Watchtower alternative; you'd access Data Breach Report in the menu, and it tells you which accounts need their passwords changed. I'm not sure if it sends a notification when a new breach comes in that includes your account.

Have I Been Pwned partnered directly with 1Password, which is probably why they're able to send out notifications directly; Bitwarden has to worry about being rate-limited.

I'm not too sure what's meant by MFA availability, but Bitwarden also lets you use it as a TOTP generator + use 2FA for logging into your vault, though those are premium features.

Re:In Its First Funding in 14 Years, 1Password Raises $200M ... by Someone1234 on Thursday November 14, 2019 @12:23PM (#21537279)
Those aren't core to actual password management though. Bitwarden is a very good password manager, and that's what it needs to be to fulfil its raison d'être.

If 1Password's claim to fame is functionality beyond password management, so be it, but that doesn't define it as better but rather broader scoped.

Re:In Its First Funding in 14 Years, 1Password Raises $200M ... by yardie on Thursday November 14, 2019 @02:25PM (#21538487)
We actually use all those features in addition to password management. Our old password management strategy was an encrypted Excel spreadsheet. This creates problems, obviously. Management, at least to me, mean ACLs, reporting, auditing, and alerting. And that is on top of basic password management.
Re:In Its First Funding in 14 Years, 1Password Raises $200M ... by benhurmarcel on Saturday November 16, 2019 @07:05AM (#21552247)
At least it has a Linux client. 1password cannot justify its price for Linux users when it only offers a browser extension…
Re:In Its First Funding in 14 Years, 1Password Raises $200M ... by wlesieutre on Thursday November 14, 2019 @11:57AM (#21536981)
I just switched from 1Password to Bitwarden and it is absolutely not polished compared to 1Password.
Re:In Its First Funding in 14 Years, 1Password Raises $200M ... by swozey on Thursday November 14, 2019 @11:34AM (#21536779)
Bitwarden didn't allow Android fingerprinting when I used it a few months ago (limitation in one of their electron libraries) which pretty much ruined it for me unfortunately. Not sure if this works in IOS.

edit: I'm wrong, it didn't support touchID in OSX https://community.bitwarden.com/t/touch-id-support-for-macos...

Re:In Its First Funding in 14 Years, 1Password Raises $200M ... by Eric_WVGG on Thursday November 14, 2019 @11:37AM (#21536801)
the Mac client doesn’t support biometric login (TouchID), which we’ve only had on these computers for about four years...
Re:In Its First Funding in 14 Years, 1Password Raises $200M ... by mathieuh on Thursday November 14, 2019 @12:06PM (#21537066)
Are you on an old version? I’ve been using TouchID with 1Password on Mac and FaceID on iPhone for as long as I can remember them being a thing

I think when they switched to subscription model they left people who didn’t switch on an old version

Re:In Its First Funding in 14 Years, 1Password Raises $200M ... by stevewodil on Thursday November 14, 2019 @12:34PM (#21537395)
I believe they were referring to lack of TouchID support in Bitwarden, not in 1Password.
Re:In Its First Funding in 14 Years, 1Password Raises $200M ... by wlesieutre on Thursday November 14, 2019 @12:00PM (#21537006)
Electron finally added support for TouchID a few months ago (version 6), so hopefully that's coming
Re:In Its First Funding in 14 Years, 1Password Raises $200M ... by ble52 on Thursday November 14, 2019 @01:36PM (#21538011)
And that's one of the major reasons for me to choose 1Password - native apps on macOS, iOS and Windows
Re:In Its First Funding in 14 Years, 1Password Raises $200M ... by siproprio on Thursday November 14, 2019 @11:58AM (#21536990)
Bitwarden had a crappy (and slow) android app, a crappy (and slow, touch based interface, poor right click options, poor design, memory hungry, crippled) windows desktop app, and an OK (for a web app) desktop site.

It only beats 1Password on price.

If you don't want to pay for a fucking awesome app, good riddance to you.

Re:In Its First Funding in 14 Years, 1Password Raises $200M ... by driverdan on Thursday November 14, 2019 @12:14PM (#21537179)
Their Android app has never seemed slow or crappy to me.
Re:In Its First Funding in 14 Years, 1Password Raises $200M ... by frosted-flakes on Saturday November 16, 2019 @09:25AM (#21552766)
It doesn't scale well though. I have my font size set to maximum, and the Bitwarden app is pretty much unusable. So I use 1Password.
Re:In Its First Funding in 14 Years, 1Password Raises $200M ... by RHSeeger on Thursday November 14, 2019 @02:55PM (#21538755)
I'm using the Birwarden Windows app (and Mac app) right now, and both seem great to me.
Re:In Its First Funding in 14 Years, 1Password Raises $200M ... by siproprio on Friday November 15, 2019 @05:23PM (#21549388)
Then perhaps you never used a better app.
Re:In Its First Funding in 14 Years, 1Password Raises $200M ... by senectus1 on Thursday November 14, 2019 @07:44PM (#21541213)
ditto, but on windows and Android
Re:In Its First Funding in 14 Years, 1Password Raises $200M ... by overcast on Thursday November 14, 2019 @11:45AM (#21536873)
Yes, immediately, we use LastPass in the corporate world, and it's horrific to deal with. Slow, bloated, mess of an interface.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21172569 is a good discussion on it.

Re:In Its First Funding in 14 Years, 1Password Raises $200M ... by NeedMoreTea on Thursday November 14, 2019 @11:31AM (#21536752)
Not any more. It used to be a no brainer, but they switched to cloud based subscription at great cost increase, loss of some features, and dark-patterned the native app into invisibility. Native is still available apparently, but you won't find it from the homepage, unless they were persuaded to change recently. Report an error in the native app, and they suggest switching to cloud subscription without addressing the error at all.

When my current native install of 1pw stops working I'll be migrating elsewhere.

Re:In Its First Funding in 14 Years, 1Password Raises $200M ... by ValentineC on Thursday November 14, 2019 @01:57PM (#21538230)
> Native is still available apparently, but you won't find it from the homepage, unless they were persuaded to change recently.

I haven't verified this myself, but standalone licences seem to be available for purchase in the app itself: https://discussions.agilebits.com/discussion/92275/how-do-i-...

Re:In Its First Funding in 14 Years, 1Password Raises $200M ... by NeedMoreTea on Thursday November 14, 2019 @04:39PM (#21539740)
Which until someone had to ask the question on the forum, having been unable to find any word, was not revealed at all on their main site, which was all about getting you on the sub. You wouldn't normally download the next (unlicensed) version on the off chance the buying mechanism has been quietly put in there instead. The former significant discounts for buying both phone and desktop, or Mac and Windows at the same time are gone too.

Hence it's there, but intentionally dark patterned to near invisibility. They would prefer everyone on the pointlessly expensive sub.

Re:In Its First Funding in 14 Years, 1Password Raises $200M ... by MrFoof on Thursday November 14, 2019 @02:07PM (#21538308)
Can verify that it's possible. Recently (past 30 days) did an upgrade to 7 with a standalone license.
Re:In Its First Funding in 14 Years, 1Password Raises $200M ... by vsl on Friday November 15, 2019 @05:45AM (#21543845)
The subscription version still uses native app. It’s not a webpage or electron crap. From context, you mean “one-time purchase”.
Re:In Its First Funding in 14 Years, 1Password Raises $200M ... by latortuga on Thursday November 14, 2019 @01:30PM (#21537953)
Yes 100%. I was a lastpass user for years but it always had its quirks for me. I switched to 1P within the last year and it is miles better and "Just Works", everywhere. I or someone in my house use 1P on Ubuntu, Android, iPhone, and macos, and it is a seamless and wonderful experience.
Re:In Its First Funding in 14 Years, 1Password Raises $200M ... by tnorthcutt on Thursday November 14, 2019 @11:29AM (#21536736)
Without hesitation. The user experience with 1Password is far better than LastPass (I’ve used both).
Re:In Its First Funding in 14 Years, 1Password Raises $200M ... by greggman2 on Thursday November 14, 2019 @02:40PM (#21538620)
yes! go read LastPass's privacy policy. They spy on everything you do and share it with anyone and everyone.
Re:In Its First Funding in 14 Years, 1Password Raises $200M ... by jsutton on Friday November 15, 2019 @10:09AM (#21545380)
This is outright false, no basis in fact whatsoever.
Re:In Its First Funding in 14 Years, 1Password Raises $200M ... by greggman2 on Sunday November 17, 2019 @01:46PM (#21559303)
From their Privacy Policy

> 1. Information We Collect and Receive

> Service Data (including Session and Usage data):

> When you use our Services, we receive information generated through the use of the Service, either entered by you or others who use the Services with you (for example, schedules, attendee info, etc.), or from the Service infrastructure itself, (for example, duration of session, use of webcams, connection information, etc.) We may also collect usage and log data about how the services are accessed and used, including information about the device you are using the Services on, IP addresses, location information, language settings, what operating system you are using, unique device identifiers and other diagnostic data ...

> Third Party Data: We may receive information about you from other sources, including publicly available databases or third parties from whom we have purchased data, and combine this data with information we already have about you. We may also receive information from other affiliated companies that are a part of our corporate group. This helps us to update, expand and analyze our records, identify new prospects for marketing, and provide products and services that may be of interest to you.

> Location Information: We collect your location-based information for the purpose of providing and supporting the service and for fraud prevention and security monitoring. If you wish to opt-out of the collection and use of your collection information, you may do so by turning it off on your device settings.

> Device Information: When you use our Services, we automatically collect information on the type of device you use, operating system version, and the device identifier (or "UDID").

That's pretty much everything given they put an extension in your browser and can collect all of that info for every page you visit

> 4. Information Sharing

> ... We may share your personal information with (a) third party service providers; (b) business partners; (c) affiliated companies within our corporate structure

> Examples of how we may share information with service providers include:

The above basically says they share your info with anyone they feel like

So I don't know how you think my comment has no basis in fact. They spell out what they can do in their privacy policy. Why would they spell it out if they weren't doing it?

Compare to 1password (note I use neither service and am in no way affiliated with 1password but for comparison it's telling

> Your data is yours, and we don't want to know anything about it. We don't use it, we don't share it, and we don't sell it.

> We only collect the information necessary to provide our services and help you with troubleshooting. Personally identifiable information is never shared with third parties.

People on HN complain about Google collecting and yet we seem to have LastPass with access to all webpages you visit and also able to track every service you use them with an their policy basically says they collect and share your data (something even Google doesn't do. AFAIK google doesn't share data)

Re:In Its First Funding in 14 Years, 1Password Raises $200M ... by joegahona on Thursday November 14, 2019 @02:43PM (#21538652)
I tried 1Password before switching to LastPass in 2015 or so. I hated 1Password. Haven't had a reason to switch, as free LastPass covers my needs nicely.
Re:In Its First Funding in 14 Years, 1Password Raises $200M ... by hk__2 on Thursday November 14, 2019 @06:12PM (#21540543)
> I hated 1Password.

This is not helpful. Why did you hate it?