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Re:Segway-Ninebot unveils scooters that drive themselves to ... by xanth on Sunday August 18, 2019 @11:17PM (#20734617)
Oh man this is a terrible idea if limited to our current tech, even if they're being controlled from the cloud with shadow-workers the havoc they could cause is significant and the chance of failure is high.
Re:Segway-Ninebot unveils scooters that drive themselves to ... by dwighttk on Sunday August 18, 2019 @08:20PM (#20733855)
"drive themselves"

"AI-driven scooters, controlled remotely from the cloud"

controlled remotely from the cloud sounds to me like shadow-workers.

Re:Segway-Ninebot unveils scooters that drive themselves to ... by jayd16 on Sunday August 18, 2019 @08:38PM (#20733947)
Or, you know, they get directions to the charging station from a server.
Re:Segway-Ninebot unveils scooters that drive themselves to ... by dwighttk on Sunday August 18, 2019 @09:00PM (#20734055)
Which is more likely, they solved vehicle autonomy or they pay someone to control their scooters to make it look like they solved it?
Re:Segway-Ninebot unveils scooters that drive themselves to ... by knolax on Monday August 19, 2019 @02:59AM (#20735523)
vehicle autonomy requirements for a scooter are a lot lower than for a car. For one a scooter can't run somebody over so.
Re:Segway-Ninebot unveils scooters that drive themselves to ... by pergadad on Monday August 19, 2019 @03:25AM (#20735649)
Yes no problem if the scooter drives in front of someone and trips them, or crosses a street at red, or doesn't recognise a manhole and falls in, ...
Re:Segway-Ninebot unveils scooters that drive themselves to ... by close04 on Monday August 19, 2019 @06:26AM (#20736520)
But not nearly low enough to be allowed as such on a public road.
Re:Segway-Ninebot unveils scooters that drive themselves to ... by bsder on Sunday August 18, 2019 @08:53PM (#20734018)
> controlled remotely from the cloud sounds to me like shadow-workers.

<shrug>

One worker can drive dozens of scooters to chargers over the course of a day. China has lots of people and low labor costs.

Re:Segway-Ninebot unveils scooters that drive themselves to ... by wisdomdata on Sunday August 18, 2019 @09:55PM (#20734296)
A tool with a camera and other sensors you can log into remotely and drive wherever you like in Washington (for example) and then have it loiter while it beams data back to china. Sounds like a plan!
Re:Segway-Ninebot unveils scooters that drive themselves to ... by jessaustin on Sunday August 18, 2019 @11:45PM (#20734723)
Why hasn't this movie been made already?!?
Re:Segway-Ninebot unveils scooters that drive themselves to ... by megaremote on Sunday August 18, 2019 @09:02PM (#20734067)
No they do not. They didn't even demo it or provide a video.
Re:Segway-Ninebot unveils scooters that drive themselves to ... by jayd16 on Sunday August 18, 2019 @08:36PM (#20733938)
I really want Bird scooters that you can shoo away, and they'll come to life and clear the sidewalk.
Re:Segway-Ninebot unveils scooters that drive themselves to ... by dillonmckay on Sunday August 18, 2019 @08:46PM (#20733976)
Like a flock of birds? I get it!
Re:Segway-Ninebot unveils scooters that drive themselves to ... by Zhenya on Monday August 19, 2019 @02:54AM (#20735496)
Not to sound paranoid or anything but are we (USA, Western world) really going to allow motorized robots (with cameras and sensors) by the thousands to be let loose in the US all beaming data and controlled from China?
Re:Segway-Ninebot unveils scooters that drive themselves to ... by Fnoord on Monday August 19, 2019 @07:26AM (#20736820)
Is there legislation which prohibits AI-driven bots such as a Segway autonomously on the sidewalk (not talking about the road). What about bicycle road?

(Asking world-wide, not any specific country.)

Re:Segway-Ninebot unveils scooters that drive themselves to ... by jameslk on Sunday August 18, 2019 @09:52PM (#20734282)
Nothing mentioned about how these won't run into things or cause chaos in intersections? What happens if someone tries to jump on one while it's driving itself? I'd really like to know
Re:Segway-Ninebot unveils scooters that drive themselves to ... by notatoad on Sunday August 18, 2019 @10:56PM (#20734531)
I'm guessing they drive themselves at something below walking pace, and if they're interfered with in any way they stop.
Re:Segway-Ninebot unveils scooters that drive themselves to ... by ph0rque on Sunday August 18, 2019 @10:12PM (#20734369)
Heh... here I thought it was the original Segway company that was years ahead (using over-complicated tech) of the scooter trend!
Re:Segway-Ninebot unveils scooters that drive themselves to ... by skinnymuch on Sunday August 18, 2019 @11:00PM (#20734554)
Technically it is, isn’t it? I think Ninebot bought them. But you could say that makes the original Segway dead then.
Re:Segway-Ninebot unveils scooters that drive themselves to ... by ph0rque on Monday August 19, 2019 @08:17AM (#20737056)
Ah, I wasn't aware of the history. Thanks!
Re:Segway-Ninebot unveils scooters that drive themselves to ... by skinnymuch on Monday August 19, 2019 @08:33PM (#20742921)
Quick skimming of wiki, seems like the founder left the company during its first sale back in 2009. Then Ninebot bought it in 2015. Seems both sales were for very low amounts.

Who knows what could’ve been!

Re:Segway-Ninebot unveils scooters that drive themselves to ... by sitkack on Sunday August 18, 2019 @08:54PM (#20734025)
I have long envisioned vended self balancing scooters, they would be summoned and appear like magic.
Re:Segway-Ninebot unveils scooters that drive themselves to ... by acd on Monday August 19, 2019 @02:13AM (#20735312)
We are starting to hit boundaries what is good for individual vs public.

It’s good for a scooter to recharge itself. It is not necessarily nice for the public to walk among scooters going to recharge stations.

Ie philosophy public vs private interest.

Re:Segway-Ninebot unveils scooters that drive themselves to ... by akadruid1 on Monday August 19, 2019 @01:06PM (#20739538)
We long ago passed those boundaries.

It's good for an individual to sit in air-conditioned comfort while burning fossil fuels to move 1.5 tons of vehicle. It is very unpleasant for the public to walk, run, cycle, scoot or even just stand among dangerous, noxious and congested vehicles

Re:Segway-Ninebot unveils scooters that drive themselves to ... by dgzl on Monday August 19, 2019 @12:48AM (#20734973)
I'd like to know how they plan on not running into stuff. Portland has a lot of things randomly blocking sidewalks. What if the scooter is in the street and can't get onto a sidewalk?