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Re:The Impact of Meditating Every Day by spectaclepiece on Friday August 16, 2019 @10:54AM (#20715742)
I began meditating every day after I wake up four years ago and it has been the most beneficial change I ever introduced into my life, quitting cannabis securing a stable second place.

I began with five min and worked my way up to 15. Now I have an iOS shortcut “hey Siri, start meditation” which sets a timer randomly between 15 and 20 min to counteract the body clock expectation of a fixed duration.

Re:The Impact of Meditating Every Day by cols on Friday August 16, 2019 @11:05AM (#20715873)
You mentioned quitting cannabis. If you don't mind elaborating, I'm curious what benefits you have experienced and why you ended up quitting. Thanks!
Re:The Impact of Meditating Every Day by bob457 on Friday August 16, 2019 @04:54PM (#20719601)
I used to smoke a bowl almost every night. I quit because it had a number of affects on me I didn’t like: (1) it made me sleep poorly. (2) it made me paranoid/anxious, as in I would become hyper focused on all the ways my life could hypothetically fall apart (3) I couldn’t manage to do much besides sit on the couch and watch tv or game (4) I would basically become paralyzed by overanlysis, to the extent that I couldn’t really talk to people.

Friends of mine smoke regularly have basically the opposite experience. It really appears to me that weed affects people in really different ways, so it’s hard to make a general statement.

Re:The Impact of Meditating Every Day by thomk on Friday August 16, 2019 @11:40AM (#20716255)
Ex cannabis user here, so I thought I'd give you my empirical perspective & and opinion.

I will tell you what I would tell my own child:

Cannabis, like any recreational drug, steals the most precious resource we have: our time. I've been on benders in my life that I simply can not remember what I did during that period, sure, but that's not what I'm talking about.

What I am talking about is the time any person needs to become a well adjusted, functioning adult. When you are taking a recreational drug, you are not dealing with life, you are on a 'get away'.

Life is the best teacher and recreational drugs are how you forfeit that precious, amazing, education.

You don't have to go far to see this in action. Think of someone who is a habitual drug user and ask yourself 'are they emotionally mature?'. They aren't. They are taking an escape. Recreational drugs are antithetical to emotional growth.

This type of behavior is ESPECIALLY harmful if you are taking recreational drugs early in life. It simply puts you behind.

I wasted 20 years of my life 'partying' even on a casual basis. Time slips away and being high puts time on a damn bullet train.

I heard recently that the fastest way for an addict to relapse is a windfall of money. Money doesn't help them get out of their situation because money is hard to manage, particularly if you are emotionally immature.

tl/dr: Recreational drugs make you immature which will prevent you from going very far in life.

Re:The Impact of Meditating Every Day by hx2a on Friday August 16, 2019 @12:16PM (#20716672)
I really like this. I never thought about it this way before and am glad you wrote this. I can't think of a single habitual drug user who is an emotionally mature adult.

I'm going to save this and say something similar in the future when I have kids.

Re:The Impact of Meditating Every Day by stronglikedan on Friday August 16, 2019 @02:38PM (#20718189)
> Recreational drugs make you immature which will prevent you from going very far in life.

Put a "may" before "make" and a replace "will" with "may", and you have a truthful statement. However, as it stands, it's simply false. Some of us "well adjusted, functioning adults" just use drugs safely and responsibly, because it can make life just a bit more interesting.

Re:The Impact of Meditating Every Day by thomk on Saturday August 17, 2019 @09:41AM (#20723979)
Ahh, so if you take away the recreational drug, you remove the part of you that has the ability to find life more interesting? Turns out it was the drug the whole time.
Re:The Impact of Meditating Every Day by ericmcer on Friday August 16, 2019 @03:28PM (#20718800)
Cannabis is just a substance, if I drink kombucha and eat broccoli while at a party it’s still going to be a “waste of time”. If I get high and go for an 8 mile hike and meditate at the top of a hill it’s going to be a great experience and really feel like an important and memorable use of my time.

Granted alcohol and weed hinder self discipline but don’t blame the substances for your actions. Have you ever done a long run or bike ride and had a beer or two at the end? It is pure joy!

Re:The Impact of Meditating Every Day by Broken_Hippo on Friday August 16, 2019 @03:42PM (#20718936)
I don't really enjoy exercise at all, at least when I'm sober. Get stoned, use an app to tell me where I'm walking, and wind up at a picturesque spot with music in my ears, though? Or go on a scenic route to a grocery store that is a bit further? These are wonderful things.
Re:The Impact of Meditating Every Day by thomk on Saturday August 17, 2019 @12:50PM (#20724869)
My point exactly. Imagine if we actually developed the discipline to not only exercise but to also enjoy it. Think of how competent and emotionally strong we would feel. We could have all the wonderful things we crave and more. Or we can take a shortcut and learn nothing.
Re:The Impact of Meditating Every Day by Broken_Hippo on Friday August 16, 2019 @02:28PM (#20718078)
This is not my experience at all.

I am more motivated to eat healthier, exercise, and so on when I smoke regularly. I spent most of my 20's sober and the opposite in my 30's and overall, my experience in my 30's was much better. I remember about as much either way - at least in the long term. I also learned a second language while mostly stoned.

Overall, I'm much more motivated.

And I'll state that overall, my life is full of wasted time. I don't have children nor much responsibility, really, and I'm over 40. I'm happy, though, and that isn't just the beer talking.

Edit: I can go either with or without and have taken semi-regular breaks from time to time. I'm mostly at weekends now, but that's mostly to save money rather than life stuff.

Re:The Impact of Meditating Every Day by Fnoord on Friday August 16, 2019 @05:17PM (#20719793)
Keep in mind different amounts of THC and CBD lead to different effect, and also different individuals (which gives both of your stories credibility, but also devalues them).

I've had multiple psychosis's due to cannabis as I am sensitive to it (possibly related to autism). Therefore, what I will say to my kid (same genepool) is be very careful with alcohol, cannabis, and other drugs. Please, don't.

Re:The Impact of Meditating Every Day by throwaway5d097 on Saturday August 17, 2019 @03:12AM (#20722658)
I too am autistic and had an experience similar to yours, although I'm not sure if the effect on productivity was nearly as much, but still definitely there and it was a form of escapism.

Still, I had plenty of time to reflect and mature while not really getting very high due to very high tolerance, although I also had anxiety problems almost like psychosis. Still managed to get out, sort of interview although probably much worse than sober, and barely work on some code. Eh, been a few weeks now and I still barely code. Only did what was required for school after burning out, before becoming addicted.

Almost got CHS after dabbing plenty of CBD (which can also cause CHS, although rare) as well as hash oil. Thankfully I only puked until my stomach was empty, didn't last long and wasn't painful, but I had most of the pre-CHS symptoms. Sometimes I think I could just do a tiny amount as a reward here and there... that it wasn't that hard to quit... maybe I'm fooling myself.

Re:The Impact of Meditating Every Day by thomk on Saturday August 17, 2019 @12:56PM (#20724902)
Maybe find some prescription drugs that would give you some benefits you desire? They are more regulated and if you find a doctor you like you won’t be going at it alone. I wish you the best.
Re:The Impact of Meditating Every Day by thomk on Saturday August 17, 2019 @12:54PM (#20724886)
Do you want a family? It’s not too late. Kids these days would do well to have a conscientious person like you as a parent. Also seeing a child learn is underrated as one of the greatest joys in life.
Re:The Impact of Meditating Every Day by Broken_Hippo on Sunday August 18, 2019 @06:33PM (#20733382)
No. And I never have. I would have been sterilised when I was 20, but they don't really like to sterilise young, childless women. Or sometimes not childless women. Luckily, my spouse is.

The only real thing I've kept on the table is foster children or adopting an older child. I did keep an open mind about dating men with children back when I was dating.

Re:The Impact of Meditating Every Day by athenot on Friday August 16, 2019 @01:06PM (#20717159)
This is well written. Reading this, I can think of other pleasure-based escapes in life that follow the same pattern. Thanks for sharing this!
Re:The Impact of Meditating Every Day by c0vfefe on Monday August 19, 2019 @01:29PM (#20739756)
It's basically a warning against escapist entertainment of any form.
Re:The Impact of Meditating Every Day by sizzle on Friday August 16, 2019 @08:09PM (#20720889)
Add alcohol, gaming addiction, lack off a social support group, and underlying undiagnosed mental health disorders to the list of things that hold you hostage from entering balanced adulthood.

Wish I was more self aware or had family to help support me in my younger years in seeking help. It's hard not to beat yourself up in hindsight when things seem so crystal clear now when you have traded all your vices for positive routines. In my case it took falling in love with the right person who had their shit together personally and professionally to pull me from the grips of substance abuse hell and my self destructive risk taking and addictive personality.

Mediation and mindfulness was key in my recovery as a dependable tool to shut my brain impulsivity down and regain control over the negative neural pathways I've reinforced for years abusing substances. Don't knock it until you try it and see it through until you can start to think clearly without craving your vices and giving into them. Push back hard and you'll be rewarded with clarity and control over your life to set up positive routines. Good luck.

Re:The Impact of Meditating Every Day by excursionist on Friday August 16, 2019 @03:54PM (#20719059)
> Cannabis, like any recreational drug, steals the most precious resource we have: our time.

Everything 'steals time'... watching TV, reading books, listening to music, working a job, etc.

> Life is the best teacher and recreational drugs are how you forfeit that precious, amazing, education.

Not at all. It really depends on which drugs, how you use them, etc.

> You don't have to go far to see this in action. Think of someone who is a habitual drug user and ask yourself 'are they emotionally mature?'. They aren't. They are taking an escape. Recreational drugs are antithetical to emotional growth.

I've met plenty of people who regularly use recreational drugs and who seemed wise, calm and content.

> I wasted 20 years of my life 'partying' even on a casual basis.

Cannabis is not really a party drug.

There are vast differences between various 'recreational drugs'. It's how you use them that matters.

Re:The Impact of Meditating Every Day by ripsawridge on Saturday August 17, 2019 @03:14AM (#20722668)
Yes, everything 'steals time,' but the biggest time stealers are those things which chemically alter your brain, such as alcohol, cannabis or other drugs. They alter the organs of perception in ways that reading a book or walking a dog do not.

Of course this is the fun of them. But also the downside.

Re:The Impact of Meditating Every Day by excursionist on Monday August 19, 2019 @09:58AM (#20737778)
Depends how you define 'biggest time stealers' - tv and video games are huge time stealers for many people. And the fact that drugs have a chemical effect on the brain does not mean they are necessarily worse than, say, watching some braindead tv show while stuffing your face with fast food, or sitting in a classroom for hours listening to a monotone voice regurgitate some dull bullshit you don't care about. Many people have had beneficial experiences with drugs, for example Steve Jobs with LSD.
Re:The Impact of Meditating Every Day by heurist on Friday August 16, 2019 @03:41PM (#20718921)
Have worked with very successful people who smoke cannabis daily. Had no idea until they told me after we were no longer working together. Moderation in all things.
Re:The Impact of Meditating Every Day by roddux on Friday August 16, 2019 @06:34PM (#20720355)
It frustrates me that the tech scene seems to accept such behaviours as smoking weed quite easily. Note the numerous replies to your comment clamouring to it's defence!

I've not known a single long-term user of cannabis to be a happy, healthy adult. Quite the opposite. I think the dangers of cannabis are quite understated and the current trend toward mass-legislation concerns me. It should be noted that I live in England, where we are renown for having stronger strains... This perhaps affects my outlook.

Re:The Impact of Meditating Every Day by mistermann on Friday August 16, 2019 @01:08PM (#20717173)
On mobile and don't have time for a substantive reply, but in my experience this comment is misleading. Rec drugs can be a waste of time, depending on how used and particularly when abused, but when used to supplement meditation, I find the experience much more informative than plain meditation.
Re:The Impact of Meditating Every Day by ThrustVectoring on Friday August 16, 2019 @02:07PM (#20717830)
It's not a causal study, but there's a correlational link between low trait Conscientiousness and chronic cannabis use. It might just be that slackers are more OK with being high all the time, but the worrying risk is that cannabis use damages your ability to organize and self-motivate yourself.
Re:The Impact of Meditating Every Day by cryptozeus on Friday August 16, 2019 @12:09PM (#20716599)
I bat you don’t need the timer now. I have been doing this for more than a year now and these days I open my eyes right around 20 mins mark. It’s freaky, try it.
Re:The Impact of Meditating Every Day by newone21451 on Friday August 16, 2019 @05:02PM (#20719667)
Did meditation help you quit cannabis? How so? Any tips? I've been trying for a while but it hasn't been the easiest thing to kick.
Re:The Impact of Meditating Every Day by spectaclepiece on Tuesday August 20, 2019 @04:42PM (#20751886)
For me those two changes weren’t directly related but I believe meditation can be very helpful in strengthening willpower and regaining focus on long term goals which is very helpful in the pursuit modifying patterns of behavior. For me it certainly works that way.

I was “lucky” in the sense that cannabis began having very negative effects on my mind so quitting was fairly easy. I know from other friends it’s not always like that so I wish you all the luck in your attempts to quit or cut down on your consumption.

Re:The Impact of Meditating Every Day by cpeterso on Friday August 16, 2019 @02:17PM (#20717944)
Have you tried meditating at other times of the day? I would be afraid that I would fall back asleep if I tried meditate after waking up. :)
Re:The Impact of Meditating Every Day by spectaclepiece on Tuesday August 20, 2019 @04:45PM (#20751918)
I find the morning to work best for me but my girlfriend does it before she goes to bed. If I would add another session each day that would be it to help me sleep better.

I sit on a chair and try to keep good posture so falling asleep has never been anything I’ve worries about.

Re:The Impact of Meditating Every Day by cpeterso on Thursday August 22, 2019 @04:56PM (#20772275)
Thanks for sharing your experience. I'll probably stick to (trying to) meditate after work. It gives me a nice break to switch brain modes. Plus I'm not a morning person so I don't have time in the morning. :)
Re:The Impact of Meditating Every Day by tkxxx7 on Sunday August 25, 2019 @05:54PM (#20795849)
I find that any after-work meditation is necessarily prepended with 5-10 minutes of reflection/decompression - just fyi
Re:The Impact of Meditating Every Day by ghobs91 on Friday August 16, 2019 @11:26AM (#20716124)
What's your meditation routine? As in, how do you actually meditate, do you use something like Headspace?