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Re:U.S. Life Expectancy Drops for Third Year in a Row (2018) by lettergram on Wednesday July 03, 2019 @12:23PM (#20345775)
I’m of the opinion that is how we should assess medical treatment, by cost. People get a ton of unnecessary treatment. Depending where you live $2k for a hospital trip via an ambulance may also be fair. Think about how many people saw your son, drove you, the bed he took. In SF a bed in a hotel is $400 - $500. That’s just a bed, not anything else.

Your take home salary in the U.S. is typically 80% after tax (effective tax rate). In the EU it’s closer to 50% (or less). It’s much more expensive in the EU just not all at one time. That’s perception.

I do think we should have competition though and open pricing. Can’t decide to do something or not unless pricing is clear.

Also if you are upset about medicinal costs be upset at the medical schools. They limit the number of doctors intentionally to inflate salaries.

Re:U.S. Life Expectancy Drops for Third Year in a Row (2018) by michaelmrose on Wednesday July 03, 2019 @12:53PM (#20346136)
Comparing a hospital stay with a pricy hotel stay is deceptive. The 2 types of services are by no means related. It's an utterly meaningless comparison.

Having seen a seizure I would definitely call an ambulance if my kid had one for the first time.

Since you picked SF let's talk about that. You may take home 80% but then you pay state income tax, sales tax, real estate taxes etc.

In SF you are more apt to be paying 40% than 20 in total.

Then your premiums for health insurance for a family. The average family pays 5,714 in premiums not including actual health care costs.

Then you have to consider the situation of those who are less fortunate. In Europe it's a slide down a slope. Here it's a drop off a cliff.

Re:U.S. Life Expectancy Drops for Third Year in a Row (2018) by mrtksn on Wednesday July 03, 2019 @12:39PM (#20345977)
>In the EU it’s closer to 50% (or less) It’s much more expensive in the EU just not all at one time

Not really, procedures and the drugs themselves are much cheaper as they are usually negotiated on a national level. Personnel salaries are also not that high. If everything is cheaper you cannot argue that the total cost is higher.

Re:U.S. Life Expectancy Drops for Third Year in a Row (2018) by lettergram on Wednesday July 03, 2019 @12:55PM (#20346154)
The personal salaries is really messed up because of they are barely graduating more doctors now than the 90’s that’s an intentional inflation of salaries.
Re:U.S. Life Expectancy Drops for Third Year in a Row (2018) by Retric on Wednesday July 03, 2019 @12:55PM (#20346161)
US government spending is 38% (2018) resulting in a net tax rate of you guessed it 38%.

UK government with it’s well known free public healthcare and similar culture spends an excessive 38.5% (2018).

PS: Government debt has the net effect of increasing the cost of government spending over time, which somewhat underestimates these figures.

Re:U.S. Life Expectancy Drops for Third Year in a Row (2018) by andbberger on Wednesday July 03, 2019 @12:30PM (#20345860)
You're wrong.
Re:U.S. Life Expectancy Drops for Third Year in a Row (2018) by dang on Wednesday July 03, 2019 @01:29PM (#20346460)
Can you please stop posting unsubstantive comments to Hacker News? If someone is wrong, it's great to provide correct information in a factual way. If you can't or don't want to do that, it's fine to post nothing.

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