I still can't find an alternative to Chrome's Dev console, especially for responsive design testing.

Firefox's version is alright at the moment, but not nearly as polished.

People bring this up but I just can't fathom how that can be an argument.

Just use both. Use firefox for everything but keep chrome for development and potentially any google services you use. You really want to segment that anyway.

Win-win-win.

I switched to Firefox once Quantum came out and never looked back, I do tend to use Chrome occasionally when developing web apps, but FF has been my main browser for a while now and I'm perfectly happy with it and the development features it provides. What I'm saying is you can still use Chrome for testing/development and FF for browsing (with respect to your privacy)

I mentioned this earlier, but you could try "Brave" (https://brave.com/) a web browser based on chrome. same features just less of the google-stickiness.

You can use Chrome (or Chromium) for development and Firefox for regular browsing. Is that a big deal?

Using chrome exclusively as a devtool is also an option, no? Anything else I’ll do on Firefox including containerized Google, Twitter and Facebook (deleted my account but using to block Facebook from any activity online that might be using them).

Which part of 'responsive design testing' in particular do you mean? I use devtools pretty religiously to check elements, but put responsivetester.net together a few years back for rapidly testing across multiple breakpoints. Then I'll use lambdatest.com (because it's wonderfully cheap) to actually device test prior to launch...

Well, as responsivetester.net uses iframes it will not work if the site is properly protected from click-jacking using the X-Frame-Options or CSP headers, and it will also not emulate touch scrolling/events. The devtools basically bring you a little bit closer to the real thing, although you still need to test with real devices in the end either way. As for how to use it see here: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Tools/Responsive_De...

Maybe this event will cause an inrush of new devs for firefox and more motivation from the core team ?

Getting more and more people using Firefox will most likely improve the dev tools.

actually I find the Dev tools of Firefox Better that Chrome. Far more intuitive

Safari is great for responsive design testing.

Not on windows...

Well yeah ok, if a couple of frontend developers use this as a valuable, okay, granted.

What about Chromium?

The new Edge has an almost identical one...

Are you comparing a web browser to the Holocaust?

No, the surveillance.

Edit: Not the web browser. I believe the current surveillance practices are dangerous to a free world. Hence the analogy with the train that goes to a bad place.

And newsbinator was talking about some feature, which is important but nowhere near the main issue. Hence the comfy chairs.

Can somebody explain why am I being downvoted?

MS Edge is good.

And downvotes why? Because you learned to hate MS or because can't respect different opinions?

Yup. I've already moved to Firefox, using containers, ublock origin and auto-cookie-clear. Also moved away from Google to DDG. I HATE the stupid name, it's slow, and sometimes I still have to use the !g thing, but overall it's decent.

Google was a stupid name too (a deliberately misspelled googol) but hey, it stuck and people are used to it now.

But DuckDuckGo just doesn't roll off your tongue, does it? Brand names are totally allowed to be stupid, as long as they're pronounceable.

Why do you care what it's named? Set it as the default search engine, and just type your query in the address bar and you'll get the results. In fact whatever you typed in duckduckgo's search field can be typed directly in the browser address bar (including switches like !g or !im)

Or if you use it frequently, just type 'd' and it'll be the first result.

As for the name, I call it DDG, which is also what I call David de Gea :-)

Google was originally called 'BackRub'. I can only imagine the jokes and double entendres, which would have followed with that naming scheme.

https://about.google/our-story/

https://www.businessinsider.com/the-true-story-behind-google...

Not only are they used to it, it's been added into the English dictionary: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/googl...

I've been using 'ungoogled chrome' which is a chromium built with adblocker within it and I've been quite happy with it.

I want to use that but sadly no Windows release for a long time

https://ungoogled-software.github.io/ungoogled-chromium-bina...

I might need to compile on it my own

Iridium looks outdated too https://iridiumbrowser.de/downloads/windows

Does it support macOS key/password store?

I think it does. It's chromium with all the google domains blocked/stripped within.

I already uninstalled Chrome everywhere except my smartphone. It pains me because Chrome's UX suits me better than anything else. But I can't fathom their decision.

I use Firefox on my smart phone since quantum. It's worth a try, I don't even remember the differences, feels like a drop in replacement.

I use focus and nightly too. I don't know why I keep chrome still on my smartphone.

They're both super nice... but really I liked chrome.

I wonder if a fork will occur to keep chrome manifest open to adblockers .. in which case I would be super happy.

You have a mobile browser without an ad blocker? Brave

It doesn't. The amount of rules you can stick in a Chrome extension is sufficient to block the majority of spam. Current block lists are mostly redundant and unoptimized.

This is true! Running extension JS on every request is a big performance penalty and rule based blocking is much better.

Why wait then.

Inertia, tbh.