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Re:Google Chrome has become surveillance software. It’s time... by newsbinator on Sunday June 23, 2019 @05:33AM (#20254199)
I still can't find an alternative to Chrome's Dev console, especially for responsive design testing.

Firefox's version is alright at the moment, but not nearly as polished.

Re:Google Chrome has become surveillance software. It’s time... by tjoff on Sunday June 23, 2019 @06:18AM (#20254446)
People bring this up but I just can't fathom how that can be an argument.

Just use both. Use firefox for everything but keep chrome for development and potentially any google services you use. You really want to segment that anyway.

Win-win-win.

Re:Google Chrome has become surveillance software. It’s time... by dsenkus on Sunday June 23, 2019 @05:41AM (#20254242)
I switched to Firefox once Quantum came out and never looked back, I do tend to use Chrome occasionally when developing web apps, but FF has been my main browser for a while now and I'm perfectly happy with it and the development features it provides. What I'm saying is you can still use Chrome for testing/development and FF for browsing (with respect to your privacy)
Re:Google Chrome has become surveillance software. It’s time... by SE_Student on Sunday June 23, 2019 @05:51AM (#20254305)
I mentioned this earlier, but you could try "Brave" (https://brave.com/) a web browser based on chrome. same features just less of the google-stickiness.
Re:Google Chrome has become surveillance software. It’s time... by reidrac on Sunday June 23, 2019 @06:26AM (#20254486)
You can use Chrome (or Chromium) for development and Firefox for regular browsing. Is that a big deal?
Re:Google Chrome has become surveillance software. It’s time... by onyva on Sunday June 23, 2019 @06:34AM (#20254535)
Using chrome exclusively as a devtool is also an option, no? Anything else I’ll do on Firefox including containerized Google, Twitter and Facebook (deleted my account but using to block Facebook from any activity online that might be using them).
Re:Google Chrome has become surveillance software. It’s time... by iamben on Sunday June 23, 2019 @05:55AM (#20254328)
Which part of 'responsive design testing' in particular do you mean? I use devtools pretty religiously to check elements, but put responsivetester.net together a few years back for rapidly testing across multiple breakpoints. Then I'll use lambdatest.com (because it's wonderfully cheap) to actually device test prior to launch...
Re:Google Chrome has become surveillance software. It’s time... by SahAssar on Sunday June 23, 2019 @06:23AM (#20254471)
Well, as responsivetester.net uses iframes it will not work if the site is properly protected from click-jacking using the X-Frame-Options or CSP headers, and it will also not emulate touch scrolling/events. The devtools basically bring you a little bit closer to the real thing, although you still need to test with real devices in the end either way. As for how to use it see here: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Tools/Responsive_De...
Re:Google Chrome has become surveillance software. It’s time... by agumonkey on Sunday June 23, 2019 @05:52AM (#20254313)
Maybe this event will cause an inrush of new devs for firefox and more motivation from the core team ?
Re:Google Chrome has become surveillance software. It’s time... by naavis on Sunday June 23, 2019 @06:23AM (#20254470)
Getting more and more people using Firefox will most likely improve the dev tools.
Re:Google Chrome has become surveillance software. It’s time... by Zardoz84 on Sunday June 23, 2019 @06:33AM (#20254534)
actually I find the Dev tools of Firefox Better that Chrome. Far more intuitive
Re:Google Chrome has become surveillance software. It’s time... by larrysalibra on Sunday June 23, 2019 @05:43AM (#20254254)
Safari is great for responsive design testing.
Re:Google Chrome has become surveillance software. It’s time... by Garvey on Sunday June 23, 2019 @06:19AM (#20254459)
Not on windows...
Re:Google Chrome has become surveillance software. It’s time... by jsilence on Sunday June 23, 2019 @05:34AM (#20254208)
Well yeah ok, if a couple of frontend developers use this as a valuable, okay, granted.
Re:Google Chrome has become surveillance software. It’s time... by sturza on Sunday June 23, 2019 @08:51AM (#20255149)
What about Chromium?
Re:Google Chrome has become surveillance software. It’s time... by nicoburns on Sunday June 23, 2019 @05:50AM (#20254301)
The new Edge has an almost identical one...
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Re:Google Chrome has become surveillance software. It’s time... by dillonmckay on Sunday June 23, 2019 @06:10AM (#20254403)
Are you comparing a web browser to the Holocaust?
Re:Google Chrome has become surveillance software. It’s time... by bulditand on Sunday June 23, 2019 @06:15AM (#20254439)
No, the surveillance.

Edit: Not the web browser. I believe the current surveillance practices are dangerous to a free world. Hence the analogy with the train that goes to a bad place.

And newsbinator was talking about some feature, which is important but nowhere near the main issue. Hence the comfy chairs.

Can somebody explain why am I being downvoted?

Re:Google Chrome has become surveillance software. It’s time... by EugeneOZ on Sunday June 23, 2019 @06:12AM (#20254419)
MS Edge is good.
Re:Google Chrome has become surveillance software. It’s time... by EugeneOZ on Sunday June 23, 2019 @08:51AM (#20255144)
And downvotes why? Because you learned to hate MS or because can't respect different opinions?