Re:Show HN: I wrote my own Delicious clone
by cheald on Friday December 17, 2010 @08:18PM
(#2018569)
After spending some time last night bemoaning Delicious' impending demise, I decided to just write my own stand-in. So I put in a few extra hours last night and banged this out.
It's running on a free Heroku instance with a $5 MongoHQ DB backing it, so I fully expect it to explode if it gets any appreciable attention, but I'm pretty proud of it for an evening project and wanted to share.
Thanks to HNer mslagh for the domain - I picked it up as a part of his giveaway a few weeks back. :)
Re:Show HN: I wrote my own Delicious clone
by endtime on Friday December 17, 2010 @09:45PM
(#2018734)
Funny, I was thinking of doing the same with the domain I got from mslagh, but I saw that Delicious isn't dying after all before I got a chance to start.
Anyway, good on you and good on him for the domains.
Re:Show HN: I wrote my own Delicious clone
by cheald on Friday December 17, 2010 @09:45PM
(#2018732)
Well, on one hand, yay. On the other hand, it's a shame that Yahoo won't devote resources to it. On the third, mutant hand, they should make room in the market for my hobby project! :D
Re:Show HN: I wrote my own Delicious clone
by foomarks on Friday December 17, 2010 @10:12PM
(#2018774)
I've always wished Delicious would get more social and more niche-y. One particular idea I'm interested in is to uncover user bookmarking patterns and not just bookmark popularity. I wonder if this this clone experiment would play with these ideas:
+ Finding the people who shared the same bookmarks as you, and also measure how different they are from you: This might uncover bookmarks and areas of interests that weren't on my radar.
+ Look for users who have similar tagging patterns: Finding similar people would be handy, then I could subscribe to their bookmarks. Delicious has a feature called the user's Top 10 Tags. I wonder if there is a way to compare how similarly you tag with other users to find similar users?
+ When performing a search, look for the most popular bookmarks and the most unpopular to find more esoteric and possibly interesting items.
+ An RSS feed for people who bookmarked the same thing I did: as a way to find new people who share the same interests as you.
Re:Show HN: I wrote my own Delicious clone
by cheald on Friday December 17, 2010 @09:30PM
(#2018707)
API is on the shortlist. It's a Rails 3 app, so json/XML feeds of views are trivial.
And hey, if Yahoo wanted to buy it, I'd be more than willing to let them kill it for the right price. At which point I could write another. :P
I do some minor profile import from Twitter right now (just your name, if available), but the data's cached locally if I add profile fields in the future.
The settings page is busted because of a fix I just made - Devise doesn't seem to like delegated auth accounts without a password. I'll see what I can do to fix it up.
Re:Show HN: I wrote my own Delicious clone
by pyre on Friday December 17, 2010 @08:40PM
(#2018625)
Looks good. Some nits though:
1. There isn't enough margin on the left side of the page. The text bumps up right against the edge of my browser. I don't know if this is just an oversight due to me smaller screen size (1024x600) or if everyone sees it like that.
2. The main page has horizontal scrolling on my netbook with fullscreen Chromium.
Re:Show HN: I wrote my own Delicious clone
by wyclif on Saturday December 18, 2010 @05:43AM
(#2019294)
On my 14" laptop display with Chrome maximised I still have a horizontal scrollbar with a bit of scrolling to see the right edge (cuts off the "New Bookmark" link). Still needs some CSS tweakage.
Re:Show HN: I wrote my own Delicious clone
by AdamGibbins on Sunday December 19, 2010 @12:37PM
(#2022060)
I'm not sure that would do it justice. It's a social network, without centralisation people are going to be scattered everywhere and the social benefits of delicious wouldn't have anywhere near the effect they do now.
Unless I guess, you could think of some smart way to have the social networking expanding over multiple sites smoothly.
Re:Show HN: I wrote my own Delicious clone
by cheald on Friday December 17, 2010 @09:31PM
(#2018709)
I'll take a look - that seems wacky. I'm using devise for authentication and it probably has that set as a default somewhere. Passwords are stored as bcrypt hashes, so length shouldn't matter.
Edit: Max length bumped to 80. If anyone has a legit need past that, let me know :P
Re:Show HN: I wrote my own Delicious clone
by cheald on Saturday December 18, 2010 @12:25AM
(#2018966)
If this goes anywhere, sure. Traffic jumped a LOT faster than I'd expected, so I'm running ads briefly to try to get a feel for what their impact will be vs. costs. Heroku is a nice platform, but it's pricey, especially for a hobby project with no monetization strategy.
Re:Show HN: I wrote my own Delicious clone
by jacquesm on Saturday December 18, 2010 @04:04AM
(#2019193)
Advertising figures gathered at this stage and traffic level will be relatively meaningless compared to something larger so you will have to re-test later if you want to get a real feel.
Likely CRTs and income (and ECPm) will drop off sharply as it gets bigger.
Re:Show HN: I wrote my own Delicious clone
by wyclif on Saturday December 18, 2010 @05:54AM
(#2019303)
Another feature request: for people like me who imported Delicious tags and thus have a lot of them, a tag cloud would be nice, I prefer it to a long scrolling list of tags.
Re:Show HN: I wrote my own Delicious clone
by joshuarr on Friday December 17, 2010 @09:26PM
(#2018702)
I'd mention that fact on the landing page. It seems more important than the domain name stuff (which I'd remove, personally).
It may be also a good idea to let people import their bookmarks and then make an account.
Edit: I see now that in the But... section you mention the import thing. I'd rewrite your main headings to be more persuasive. If one just reads the titles and the first paragraph then one misses the important stuff (as evidenced by my post).
Re:Show HN: I wrote my own Delicious clone
by jtg on Friday December 17, 2010 @09:16PM
(#2018680)
For a "few extra hours," this is excellent. And I like the route that you're taking by trying to produce as faithful of a reproduction as you can. It's set to basically be a drop-in replacement. Keep doing what you're doing. I love it.
Re:Show HN: I wrote my own Delicious clone
by cheald on Friday December 17, 2010 @09:58PM
(#2018749)
It's Heroku's free plan, so there's only one worker. When someone's doing a big import, everyone else gets backed up behind them. I just added another worker, getting me out of "free" but into "functional". :)
You can do a bookmarks export from Chrome to HTML, then import that HTML file. All the browsers use the standard Netscape bookmarks file format, AFAIK.
Re:Show HN: I wrote my own Delicious clone
by ihunte on Friday December 24, 2010 @01:23PM
(#2037730)
Dude, you really need to setup a github repo for that! I think many ppl gonna be pissed about the real delicious and would help you creating an awesome clone, with more features.
Re:Show HN: I wrote my own Delicious clone
by Skywing on Friday December 17, 2010 @09:12PM
(#2018675)
Looks good. I might even like the appearance of it more than delicious. Easily my favorite part about delicious, though, is the Chrome plugin. Make one. :)
Re:Show HN: I wrote my own Delicious clone
by shallowwater on Friday December 17, 2010 @10:39PM
(#2018818)
this looks pretty great, but I have to be a total dick here for a minute and ask. Is there an exporter? Given the current climate, I think it is at least a little bit reasonable to ask.
Re:Show HN: I wrote my own Delicious clone
by cheald on Friday December 17, 2010 @10:57PM
(#2018843)
Not yet. That's fairly straightforward, though. Long term, there will be your standard bookmarks style exporter, as well as RSS/JSON/XML feeds for consumption.
It's running on a free Heroku instance with a $5 MongoHQ DB backing it, so I fully expect it to explode if it gets any appreciable attention, but I'm pretty proud of it for an evening project and wanted to share.
Thanks to HNer mslagh for the domain - I picked it up as a part of his giveaway a few weeks back. :)
Anyway, good on you and good on him for the domains.
+ Finding the people who shared the same bookmarks as you, and also measure how different they are from you: This might uncover bookmarks and areas of interests that weren't on my radar.
+ Look for users who have similar tagging patterns: Finding similar people would be handy, then I could subscribe to their bookmarks. Delicious has a feature called the user's Top 10 Tags. I wonder if there is a way to compare how similarly you tag with other users to find similar users?
+ When performing a search, look for the most popular bookmarks and the most unpopular to find more esoteric and possibly interesting items.
+ An RSS feed for people who bookmarked the same thing I did: as a way to find new people who share the same interests as you.
Signed in using Twitter OAuth, imported my Delicious backup, completely painless.
Now if you release an API and people make awesome Chrome/Firefox extensions, you're on your way to sell this beauty to Yahoo! :P
Edit: Looks like the Settings page is a bit broken, but I'm sure it'll be fixed soon. Bonus points if you import my profile data from Twitter. :)
And hey, if Yahoo wanted to buy it, I'd be more than willing to let them kill it for the right price. At which point I could write another. :P
I do some minor profile import from Twitter right now (just your name, if available), but the data's cached locally if I add profile fields in the future.
The settings page is busted because of a fix I just made - Devise doesn't seem to like delegated auth accounts without a password. I'll see what I can do to fix it up.
1. There isn't enough margin on the left side of the page. The text bumps up right against the edge of my browser. I don't know if this is just an oversight due to me smaller screen size (1024x600) or if everyone sees it like that.
2. The main page has horizontal scrolling on my netbook with fullscreen Chromium.
Edit: I reduced it a bit; should fix those issues.
Unless I guess, you could think of some smart way to have the social networking expanding over multiple sites smoothly.
It's broken right now (Won't import my book marks, refers to me as "4d0c26c34caddf4914000003!") - but I'm looking forward to trying it out.
You can change your displayed name in the settings. :)
:(
Looks good otherwise, especially for a overnight hack.
Edit: Max length bumped to 80. If anyone has a legit need past that, let me know :P
Likely CRTs and income (and ECPm) will drop off sharply as it gets bigger.
(But that's a fair point; that's one of 3 images I used on the site)
Edit: Logo is now text. Only the import/bookmarklet and twitter buttons are images now. :)
The import bookmarks, and bookmarklet links had a:hover text-dec underline, which creates an out of place underline on Chrome.
It may be also a good idea to let people import their bookmarks and then make an account.
Edit: I see now that in the But... section you mention the import thing. I'd rewrite your main headings to be more persuasive. If one just reads the titles and the first paragraph then one misses the important stuff (as evidenced by my post).
Edit: Also it appears to be down atm.
You can do a bookmarks export from Chrome to HTML, then import that HTML file. All the browsers use the standard Netscape bookmarks file format, AFAIK.
Edit: Fixed!
no offense, but don't post until you have the basic stuff together... people don't give you that many chances to impress
Point humbly taken, though I'll try to get those fixed up ASAP.
(I used a new authentication framework on this project and haven't quite gotten my head around the edges, it seems)