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Re:SoftBank to invest over $1B in German payment company Wir... by mtw on Wednesday April 24, 2019 @09:16AM (#19737982)
I think SoftBank has too much money either don't know how to do with it, or don't know how to do money management.
Re:SoftBank to invest over $1B in German payment company Wir... by swarnie_ on Wednesday April 24, 2019 @09:56AM (#19738349)
I think its a sign of the late economic cycle, nothing is cheap and titans have already been established in the last 11 years.

I'd be inclined to hold my money and see what shakes out of the next inevitable market shake up. But then i'm not running softbank for good reasons....

Re:SoftBank to invest over $1B in German payment company Wir... by charlesdm on Wednesday April 24, 2019 @10:33AM (#19738716)
It likely is, but I do wonder how much QE has played into permanently raising the prices of assets.

I won't make that bet, but it could very well be years before something major happens.

Re:SoftBank to invest over $1B in German payment company Wir... by rapsey on Wednesday April 24, 2019 @10:47AM (#19738849)
So many companies doing IPOs lately, seems to me we are reaching a top. Private money running out, lets go for public.
Re:SoftBank to invest over $1B in German payment company Wir... by charlesdm on Wednesday April 24, 2019 @11:20AM (#19739256)
For tech, yes. But does that mean the whole economy or tech sector goes into a recession? I.e. will the fact that Uber tanks after IPO have an effect on Apple?
Re:SoftBank to invest over $1B in German payment company Wir... by rapsey on Wednesday April 24, 2019 @11:42AM (#19739506)
2008 was a housing bubble and it cut everyone at the knees.
Re:SoftBank to invest over $1B in German payment company Wir... by T-A on Wednesday April 24, 2019 @01:12PM (#19740540)
Housing is a huge component of the US economy. Total value in 2018: $33.3 trillion [1], 1.6x GDP (20.9 trillion) [2].

Tech is about 5% of GDP [3].

[1] https://www.housingwire.com/articles/47847-us-housing-market...

[2] https://www.thebalance.com/u-s-gdp-5-latest-statistics-and-h...

[3] http://www.ianhathaway.org/blog/2017/5/31/how-big-is-the-tec...

Re:SoftBank to invest over $1B in German payment company Wir... by opportune on Wednesday April 24, 2019 @04:14PM (#19742174)
You're comparing the total value of all housing to GDP vs. an actual percent of GDP. That's not an apples to apples comparison.

A quick lookup tells me construction is about 4% of GDP. And financing/ancillary services for that construction, if I had to estimate, might make up another 2% at most. Which is pretty close to tech

Re:SoftBank to invest over $1B in German payment company Wir... by T-A on Wednesday April 24, 2019 @07:07PM (#19743406)
Yes, but what happened in 2008, and caused the crisis referred to by rapsey, was that housing lost a large fraction of its value. It was not a drop in construction, financing etc that tanked the economy; it was the loss of value, which left a giant hole in balance sheets.

The apples-to-oranges comparison was introduced by rapsey, I merely provided the numbers.

Re:SoftBank to invest over $1B in German payment company Wir... by swarnie_ on Wednesday April 24, 2019 @10:56AM (#19738943)
Some real stinkers as well (although some ok ones).

My guess is that Uber will be the poster child that kills this IPO season or at least comes to define it.

Re:SoftBank to invest over $1B in German payment company Wir... by ksec on Wednesday April 24, 2019 @11:18AM (#19739240)
>I think its a sign of the late economic cycle

Agree but I think this late cycle period still has a few more years to go.

Re:SoftBank to invest over $1B in German payment company Wir... by ingenieros on Wednesday April 24, 2019 @07:48PM (#19743659)
Half of that fund belongs to Saudi Arabia which almost never gets mentioned: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-softbank-vision-loan-excl...
Re:SoftBank to invest over $1B in German payment company Wir... by dx034 on Thursday April 25, 2019 @08:21AM (#19747276)
They have a lot of money and already own sizeable positions in the tech sector. Finding companies that are large enough to make it worth investing while not increasing concentration doesn't leave many options for them.