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Re:Ask HN: What is your money-making side project outside pr... by october_sky on Sunday April 21, 2019 @11:06AM (#19712379)
Clever. Do you have the intention to make more replacement parts for other products?
Re:Ask HN: What is your money-making side project outside pr... by gottebp on Sunday April 21, 2019 @11:12AM (#19712411)
I would like to if time permits. There is a huge untapped market here. The difficulty is in locating the parts that are both unavailable and 3D printable. I keep it in the back of my head as I repair other items. So much expensive stuff ends up in a landfill over a tiny part.

I could see someday having a github project for replacement parts, each one iterating and getting better an better -- far beyond the original.

Re:Ask HN: What is your money-making side project outside pr... by tyingq on Sunday April 21, 2019 @11:47AM (#19712600)
I'd look into little parts for classic cars. Almost no price sensitivity, and if you find some unmet need for a popular one...

Could even be something silly, like a plastic fuse extractor tool that people will pay $50 for if it looks OEM.

Re:Ask HN: What is your money-making side project outside pr... by grecy on Sunday April 21, 2019 @11:55AM (#19712645)
This. A friend buys and restores old Porsche 911s. He will pay anything for custom made parts that are rare as hens teeth. As an example there is a housing around the main cooling fan that seems to be titanium or aluminum or something very exotic. [1]

A company does sell a replacement, which he paid a fortune for, which had garbage tolerances and we spent weeks modifying it until it fit more or less well enough.

I suspect if you spent time on "classic car" forums you'd find owners of very specific models of cars searching for things you could make and sell for any markup, and every owner would buy one.

[1] Its the silver part in this photo, which the alternator mounts to and must be precisely centered https://rennlist.com/forums/attachments/993-forum/1236047d15...

Re:Ask HN: What is your money-making side project outside pr... by holoduke on Sunday April 21, 2019 @01:19PM (#19713211)
I am into older Maserati's. Own a couple of them. I do a lot of manufacturing myself. 3d printing, cncing. The problem is that whenever I design a replacement panel, wishbones or various other stuff and try to sell them commercialy I will get sued by the original Maserati company. On a low scale it's fine, but you will never get a living out of it. The only parts which are in a gray area are rims, exhausts, filters, springs and couple of other parts.
Re:Ask HN: What is your money-making side project outside pr... by richk449 on Sunday April 21, 2019 @06:56PM (#19715095)
What do they sue you for? If you are upfront about what you are selling, and you didn't steal any IP, it isn't fraud or theft of trade secrets. Maybe they have patents, and claim you are violating them? I can't see how it is illegal to reverse engineer a part and sell a similar version.
Re:Ask HN: What is your money-making side project outside pr... by gambiting on Monday April 22, 2019 @01:31AM (#19716767)
Exactly, 3rd party replacement market for car parts is huge.
Re:Ask HN: What is your money-making side project outside pr... by swimfar on Sunday April 21, 2019 @07:33PM (#19715223)
Similarly, a German-based company started producing replica Mercedes 300 SL bodies but they were shutdown and the bodies had to be crushed. Although, this isn't quite the same, because the bodies weren't used as replacement parts to keep existing cars on the road.

https://mercedesheritage.com/classic-mb-culture/mercedes-ben...

Re:Ask HN: What is your money-making side project outside pr... by tyingq on Sunday April 21, 2019 @01:29PM (#19713282)
Interesting. I suppose you could stick with manufacturers that either don't care, or are long defunct.
Re:Ask HN: What is your money-making side project outside pr... by kbenson on Sunday April 21, 2019 @02:11PM (#19713565)
If we had a right to repair law, presumably it would allow third parties to make replacements when the original manufacturer lo linger was.

Even without that, I'm kind of surprised they sue. Are they patenting each part? Is there case law that covers this? Or is it just a case of bringing a suit to scare people I sto stopping? I wonder.

Re:Ask HN: What is your money-making side project outside pr... by gulleyd on Sunday April 21, 2019 @01:02PM (#19713107)
I would actually like to hear a little more about why the tolerances were poor. Were the major diameters the issue here? I could see a lot of adjustment happening on a car-to-car basis to get concentricity between the alternator fan and the shroud just right. I have very little experience with Porsches, but am a coordinate metrologist for a major aerospace parts manufacturer. I don't see something like this being a huge issue, at least compared to what I deal with on a day-to-day basis.

Edit: I actually looked into it a little more- it looks like the part is probably machined from casting given that there appear to be four stators which also locate the center mounting point. That's where the concentricity would be set; not by the casting, but by the machining of the center flange. So assuming that the fan's mounting points are within spec, I would say that your friend's part could just be chalked up to machining process that leaves something to be desired. This is actually a trickier part if machined from casting (without the appropriate tooling), but actually pretty simple (and wildly expensive) if machined from billet.

Re:Ask HN: What is your money-making side project outside pr... by tyingq on Sunday April 21, 2019 @01:14PM (#19713182)
Probably some entrepreneur ordering them in small quantities from China from a place that makes frying pans one day, car parts the next.

I used to order a lot of custom things from China. Took a lot of trial and error to find good suppliers. They only accept bank wire as payment, so they risk little other than repeat business if they choose to be sloppy.

Re:Ask HN: What is your money-making side project outside pr... by grecy on Sunday April 21, 2019 @01:38PM (#19713343)
You're right, it was a cast part that had been machined, and (from memory) the machining was not precise enough to locate the alternator (and thus the fan) in the exact center. It kind of seemed liked a backyard job, but the price was anything but.

I think from memory the inside of the circle (which was cast) was not perfectly round. From memory the original Porsche part was titanium, and this replacement was aluminum. But I might have that backwards.

Re:Ask HN: What is your money-making side project outside pr... by gulleyd on Sunday April 21, 2019 @02:09PM (#19713543)
It doesn't surprise me in the least that circularity on the casting would be messed up, you would just think that the person on the mill would have the presence of mind to take a look at it before sending it off to the end-user. We reject castings pretty regularly, and that ID could be turned true without a great deal of difficulty provided the deviation in roundness didn't exceed something like 1/2 material thickness.

What doesn't sit right with me is the fact that for a small run, the price of even an aluminum casting would absolutely motivate me to get it right the first time. At the level of volume that the guy would have to be operating at, I would be test-fitting every part to a car before sending it out the door.

I feel like the relative scarcity of air-cooled 911s coupled with the difficulty of machining the part correctly as a third party is why the part itself is so hard to come by. If a person were motivated, though, there is definitely another way to make a suitable replacement more cheaply and easily with a modified design. That's provided someone is okay with not having a completely factory 911.

Re:Ask HN: What is your money-making side project outside pr... by mianos on Sunday April 21, 2019 @07:26PM (#19715198)
A 5 axis mill? Once you had the model you could get one offs in many contract shops. It is by no means trivial but if it is an expensive part you could make a very workable copy. Given the required characteristics of the air flow there are some programs that calculate blade profiles. Maybe the part would end up even more expensive but that sounds like an interesting and worthwhile project.
Re:Ask HN: What is your money-making side project outside pr... by Sendotsh on Sunday April 21, 2019 @09:34PM (#19715737)
I do this for old (15yrs+, not old-old) JDM cars. There's a massive untapped potential in this for any car-nuts who have 3D printers.

Just take a quick look through your favourite forum for your car of choice and there's endless threads begging for some random old plastic part that can no longer be found.

Interior trim clips, centre console fascias, exterior body plugs (where tow hook goes, where roof racks go, etc), stereo surrounds, door handle surrounds, etc etc etc.

Re:Ask HN: What is your money-making side project outside pr... by NeedMoreTea on Sunday April 21, 2019 @12:00PM (#19712671)
> parts that are both unavailable

Depends on your pricing and margins. There's a huge number of parts that are available but ridiculously priced, often coming out an order of magnitude in excess of what seems reasonable.

Take for instance a kettle scale filter. OK you probably can't 3d print these, but for something so simple they're insanely priced - £5-£15 for a bit of plastic. A whole kettle with filter costs typically £15-£35. Dyson parts are even sillier.

e.g. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Genuine-Philips-Kettle-Filter-HD467...

There may be a far wider range of parts you could profit from than you may think. :)

Re:Ask HN: What is your money-making side project outside pr... by dyarosla on Sunday April 21, 2019 @02:08PM (#19713533)
After material costs, time, shipping, advertising, & customer support, how much margin do you think there is to make on a part that already sells at £5-15 (ESP in an environment where spending £15-30 to get a new one is an accepted norm already)?

This is def not viable from my view- at least not for parts that are this cheap already.

Re:Ask HN: What is your money-making side project outside pr... by NeedMoreTea on Sunday April 21, 2019 @07:45PM (#19715275)
lol. 99% of it is margin - it's 50% of the whole retail item cost for <1% of the material or complexity.

That's most of it left for promotion. Domestic appliances, large and small, regularly have small spare parts that attract 25 or 50% of the price of the entire item. Never used to.

That they're already doing well with small appliances in the niche of non-available parts says enough about pricing floor.

Re:Ask HN: What is your money-making side project outside pr... by avip on Sunday April 21, 2019 @01:10PM (#19713148)
My car was EOL 2011. The e-windows 4-switch costs 300$ for original and there’s no replacement. I’ll be extremely happy to beta test this market...
Re:Ask HN: What is your money-making side project outside pr... by avip on Sunday April 21, 2019 @11:21AM (#19712455)
All plastic parts for appliances: dish drawer wheels, fridge shelves - are all designed to not last, run for $$$ on vendor site if possible to find at all. If you print it - they would come.
Re:Ask HN: What is your money-making side project outside pr... by fyfy18 on Sunday April 21, 2019 @12:10PM (#19712723)
I recently had to replace the side wheel motor assembly on a Roomba. The motor and housing were fine, but the gears inside had worn out. I think they were just made out of ABS, so if they were printed in Nylon they would be a lot longer wearing. Roomba do make their robots (at least the 620 I have) repairable and a replacement of the whole assembly was only £20 so I'm not sure if the margin is there, but it is a bit wasteful when the only issue was the gears.

I've also considered creating some upgrades to the stock parts, but it's on my "some day I'll get around to it" list.

Re:Ask HN: What is your money-making side project outside pr... by pletnes on Sunday April 21, 2019 @02:12PM (#19713571)
Did you check out grabcad? Kinda sorta like github, but for things rather than code.
Re:Ask HN: What is your money-making side project outside pr... by dplgk on Sunday April 21, 2019 @11:36AM (#19712547)
The hard part is finding appliances that need fixing. This is super easy if you happen to own a lot do things that break. If not, it becomes quite boring and tedious to scout out things that are breaking for other people, that you have no personal motivation to fix, to get the broken appliance and then figure out the 3d model for the bad part.
Re:Ask HN: What is your money-making side project outside pr... by microtherion on Sunday April 21, 2019 @12:13PM (#19712751)
A few years ago I bought a replacement part for a baby stroller: https://www.shapeways.com/shops/bugabooparts

It's a neat business model: The person posts DIY repair videos on youtube, which drives traffic to his site. The strollers can easily cost $1000 new, and are often handed down / resold, so there is motivation to keep them running, and they have some weak spots which tend to break. The 3D printed replacement parts can be of superior quality to the original parts.

Re:Ask HN: What is your money-making side project outside pr... by kwiens on Sunday April 21, 2019 @01:52PM (#19713431)
Re:Ask HN: What is your money-making side project outside pr... by tlrobinson on Sunday April 21, 2019 @11:46AM (#19712595)
It seems like once you build up a critical mass of reputation/SEO you could get people to send you their broken parts to reproduce (then start advertising that specific part too)
Re:Ask HN: What is your money-making side project outside pr... by dplgk on Sunday April 21, 2019 @11:54AM (#19712643)
Then that depends on either how much they're paying for the part and how much you enjoying 3d modeling and the trial and error dof 3d printing. You'll also need at least a real version of the part to copy and maybe even the appliance.
Re:Ask HN: What is your money-making side project outside pr... by petra on Sunday April 21, 2019 @03:02PM (#19713860)
Depending on the long-term economics, it might be worthwhile to work as a repair technician for some time and gather repairs.
Re:Ask HN: What is your money-making side project outside pr... by ausjke on Monday April 22, 2019 @12:13AM (#19716470)
someone needs to make wheels for those luggage suitcases, some wheels broke while the case is still good.
Re:Ask HN: What is your money-making side project outside pr... by bronco21016 on Monday April 22, 2019 @03:52PM (#19722225)
If you buy a bag with rollerblade wheels vs the plastic castering garbage that comes on a lot of bags you’ll get significantly more life out of them. I spend 15-20 days/month on the road and get several years out of rollerblade wheels.
Re:Ask HN: What is your money-making side project outside pr... by dplgk on Monday April 22, 2019 @12:18AM (#19716492)
A lot of them appear to be the same as roller blade wheels