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Re:How Discord Went Mainstream by gaspoweredcat on Wednesday March 13, 2019 @04:42AM (#19376837)
maybe im just getting old but i cant really understand the runaway success of discord, it seems awfully similar to IRC to me
Re:How Discord Went Mainstream by panic on Thursday March 14, 2019 @05:31AM (#19387653)
Here are a few things that make Discord nicer than IRC for ordinary (non-voice) chat:

1. You can start a new server right in the client by clicking a button.

2. Logs are saved server-side and synced across all your clients (phone, PC, etc).

3. You can upload images and videos to be hosted by Discord's servers. Media and links appear inline in the chat log.

4. No strange rituals involving NickServ or ChanServ.

5. Mobile notifications.

Re:How Discord Went Mainstream by lmedinas on Thursday March 14, 2019 @05:37AM (#19387673)
In addition to this you have integration with other gaming platforms like: Battle.net, Steam, Twitch and for example join a game directly from Discord.
Re:How Discord Went Mainstream by hedgew on Thursday March 14, 2019 @05:50AM (#19387744)
6. You don't need to publicize your IP address by default.
Re:How Discord Went Mainstream by Sendotsh on Thursday March 14, 2019 @07:26AM (#19388235)
IPs have been hidden on most IRC servers for years now.
Re:How Discord Went Mainstream by ihuman on Thursday March 14, 2019 @09:58AM (#19389233)
Does discord even have the option to make you IP address public? I thought you only have the option of private.
Re:How Discord Went Mainstream by technofiend on Thursday March 14, 2019 @10:21AM (#19389431)
>No strange rituals involving NickServ or ChanServ.

True but God help you if you ever lose your discord 2fa seed; you'll have to throw away that identity and start over. [1]

From their FAQ:

Note: If you do not have access to your backup codes, we are unable to remove 2FA and you will have to create a new account. Discord cannot remove 2FA or issue you new backup codes.

*1 https://support.discordapp.com/hc/en-us/articles/11500122107...

Re:How Discord Went Mainstream by Mirioron on Thursday March 14, 2019 @11:31AM (#19390115)
That actually sounds like a good thing though.
Re:How Discord Went Mainstream by theoctopus on Thursday March 14, 2019 @01:52PM (#19391639)
Agreed, this is exactly how 2FA should work. Allowing support staff to deactivate 2FA is a massive security weakness.
Re:How Discord Went Mainstream by technofiend on Thursday March 14, 2019 @12:49PM (#19391006)
It's great until you discover that Google's migration tool doesn't port Google Authenticator data when you switch phones. Ask me how I know. :-)
Re:How Discord Went Mainstream by Notorious_BLT on Thursday March 14, 2019 @01:13PM (#19391263)
You can recover 2FA if you're already signed in on any other device though. You just have to enter your password on the device you are signed in on.
Re:How Discord Went Mainstream by technofiend on Thursday March 14, 2019 @06:45PM (#19394658)
Uh, no saying "any other device" is too sweeping of a generalization. You must be logged into a browser specifically: You cannot turn two factor off from the app.
Re:How Discord Went Mainstream by bathory on Thursday March 14, 2019 @05:33AM (#19387664)
Regarding 4.), only once which is your account creation which is valid across all discord servers
Re:How Discord Went Mainstream by Klover on Thursday March 14, 2019 @06:00AM (#19387784)
That depends on the server. You can set it to public, or a mix between the two. Or even a public channel, a registered channel, and a channel for people with 2FA.

The way I got into Discord was some open source project had a link on their GitHub page for collaboration, I clicked that, entered a name and within minutes I was helping out with some code. A cookie kept my temporary account alive.

I don’t remember any trolls or spammers or anything. I noticed there’s a setting to control the amount of filtering for your server. And I think there’s also a captcha the first time a temporary user joins.

Re:How Discord Went Mainstream by jypepin on Thursday March 14, 2019 @06:30AM (#19387954)
not saying that in a negative way, and I agree that for someone who understands IRC, IRC is great!

But this comment is very similar to the infamous rsync comment on the Dropbox original Show HN post. Most people don't know IRC, are put off by it's raw (or lack of) design, etc. It's much easier to sell something like slack/discord than IRC.

I remember having so many engineers fighting against HipChat being too slow, and saying we should just use IRC. Yes, in a way it's true, it does everything we'd need, it's fast, can be self hosted etc... but Nancy from HR or Paul from finance would NOT want to figure out how it works.

Re:How Discord Went Mainstream by nindalf on Thursday March 14, 2019 @06:36AM (#19387985)
The top comment on Dropbox's original announcement went like

> For a Linux user, you can already build such a system yourself quite trivially by getting an FTP account, mounting it locally with curlftpfs, and then using SVN or CVS on the mounted filesystem. From Windows or Mac, this FTP account could be accessed through built-in software ... is it reasonable to expect to make money off of this?

Re:How Discord Went Mainstream by mruts on Thursday March 14, 2019 @12:12PM (#19390589)
He's probably right, it's not reasonable and dropbox is a shitty product. But the market has determined it's valuable, despite what we techies think.
Re:How Discord Went Mainstream by mruts on Thursday March 14, 2019 @12:11PM (#19390577)
I've never used HipChat but I always hated Slack. My boss would always delete my comments without telling me when he didn't like what I said.
Re:How Discord Went Mainstream by xfitm3 on Thursday March 14, 2019 @08:16AM (#19388509)
IRC is great precisely because it filters out people you don’t want to talk to - such as HR.
Re:How Discord Went Mainstream by loktarogar on Thursday March 14, 2019 @05:45AM (#19387709)
voice is one of the killer features - simple, instant voice chat, just give someone a link and they're pretty much in. no mucking about with settings. in gamer circles that's huge, and the IRC functionality made it great for game guilds or group of friends for async messaging.

compare discord to say teamspeak or ventrilo before it, where you had to both set up the software and configure it, as well as rent or own a server for people to connect to, discord was a godsend

and miles better than skype

Re:How Discord Went Mainstream by gambler on Thursday March 14, 2019 @10:19AM (#19389417)
That's exactly why it's successful. It has the playful tone of the old IRC, ICQ, and 90s web chats that's totally missing from most modern platforms. Probably the most "social" of all communication offerings I've seen and used recently. It's designed to talk to people you don't necessarily know, as opposed to just leeching off your existing social connections from the real world.

I really hope they don't end up selling out to Microsoft/Google/Facebook or use their platform to do some form of political activism.

On the other hand, Discord seems like a good match for small businesses. Would be interested in seeing something offered on that end.

Re:How Discord Went Mainstream by s_y_n_t_a_x on Thursday March 14, 2019 @05:20AM (#19387610)
People were tired of getting DDoS'ed so they switched away from Skype/Teamspeak.

The nice UX makes it easy for everyone to use, and the community aspect is appealing.

IRC isn't very easy to use for the common person.

Re:How Discord Went Mainstream by worble on Thursday March 14, 2019 @06:17AM (#19387872)
>The nice UX makes it easy for everyone to use

Maybe I'm just old and grumpy, but am I the only one who finds the UX to be atrocious? Everything seems to a nondescript icon that rarely represents what it's supposed to do, nearly everything is flat so it's hard to tell what you can actually click on and whats decoration. Everytime I use it feels like an exercise in mental gymnastics just to navigate it.

Re:How Discord Went Mainstream by chrisan on Thursday March 14, 2019 @07:25AM (#19388225)
Have an example? Everything I click on has some action I can do.

I'm 40 and grew up on mIRC, Discord feels a natural evolution with all the new features.

Re:How Discord Went Mainstream by s_y_n_t_a_x on Thursday March 14, 2019 @11:06AM (#19389864)
I mean... 90% of the UI is just text. The only icons are for the server images and some minor ones like emojis in the text input. Have a specific example?
Re:How Discord Went Mainstream by tomupom on Thursday March 14, 2019 @05:33AM (#19387663)
I agree, there is far less of a learning curve involved with Discord and I believe this helped them win over a younger demographic of users.

I also feel like they capitalised on something specific that gamers wanted (chat and voice calls with low latency). Skype call quality is very much hit or miss, and while Mumble is great not everyone has the expertise in setting up a server.

Re:How Discord Went Mainstream by gsich on Thursday March 14, 2019 @11:21AM (#19390003)
>IRC isn't very easy to use for the common person.

A common person can learn. Also the audience (mostly gamers) know how to do stuff with their computers.

Re:How Discord Went Mainstream by sneakernets on Thursday March 14, 2019 @11:45AM (#19390275)
In today's mobile world, IRC sucks. I've used IRC for years. Sending files is a pain in the ass due to everyone being behind NATs these days. People can flood servers with garbage. Names can be squatted and trolls can run free. Not so much with Discord.

It also doesn't require a bouncer just so you can go from mobile to PC to tablet without issue.

Re:How Discord Went Mainstream by ktpsns on Thursday March 14, 2019 @06:12AM (#19387847)
I recently looked into Discord since ~4yrs, and noticed the UI looks almost exactly like a copy of Slack (http://www.slack.com).
Re:How Discord Went Mainstream by chrisan on Thursday March 14, 2019 @07:22AM (#19388211)
And both look like copies of mIRC with added features. And I'm sure mIRC copied their layout from someone else
Re:How Discord Went Mainstream by avinium on Thursday March 14, 2019 @06:16PM (#19394404)
Completely disagree.

This is just my personal opinion, but I (and my circle) have found Discord to have the worst UI of any mainstream application.

First, there's only a dark theme, which I find much more difficult to read than Slack's default light theme.

Every window (native client) is crammed full of widgets, making it very difficult for fresh users to figure out which button to click to invite people.

It's also constantly firing off unread notifications, adding more and more density to the UI. It makes it very difficult to instantly know where to look.

As another example, I just fired up the desktop client and created a random server - and now I literally have no idea how to delete or disconnect from it.

I'm not a fan of Slack for other reasons, but its UI is far, far superior to Discord.

Re:How Discord Went Mainstream by pault on Thursday March 14, 2019 @03:02PM (#19392387)
It's the community. I joined a discord server a few months ago to get support from some product (I can't remember what), and once I started using it I realized there are vibrant communities for all of my hobbies and interests. I now have a bunch of new friends that are into building mechanical keyboards that live in the same city. I would never have met them if I hadn't accidentally stumbled onto Discord.
Re:How Discord Went Mainstream by afarrell on Thursday March 14, 2019 @07:01AM (#19388101)
One thing I really appreciate about both Discord and Slack are the ability to insert newlines into messages to make them easier to read.
Re:How Discord Went Mainstream by wetpaws on Thursday March 14, 2019 @06:48AM (#19388040)
It is popular exactly because it is similar to irc. Original IRC was great but despite all my love it did not age well.
Re:How Discord Went Mainstream by fvjft on Thursday March 14, 2019 @05:36AM (#19387670)
Apart from the (more than obvious) technical feats, they've raised a lot of money and can afford to offer all of their services, some of them a bit expensive, for free. If they can't find a way to monetise, though, they'll be in trouble.

Had TeamSpeak or Mumble been able to offer hosted services for free, maybe Discord wouldn't have existed.

Re:How Discord Went Mainstream by Semaphor on Thursday March 14, 2019 @06:31AM (#19387959)
They have pushed monetization recently. Discord Nitro went from custom id, animated avatar and all emotes of all your servers everywhere to a game subscription service (obviously while raising the price)
Re:How Discord Went Mainstream by starshadowx2 on Thursday March 14, 2019 @02:57PM (#19392331)
There is still the Nitro classic with just the extra account features, the game subscription is an extra piece if you want it.
Re:How Discord Went Mainstream by fvjft on Thursday March 14, 2019 @07:04AM (#19388112)
I looked at the games when they launched and they all were indie rubbish, so what can I tell you.
Re:How Discord Went Mainstream by Semaphor on Thursday March 14, 2019 @07:14AM (#19388173)
Besides a bunch of lootbox stuff for the kiddie shooters, there is Civ IV, XCOM:EU, Bioshock 1&2, Metro 2033 Redux, Project Highrise, Metro Last Light Redux, OOTP18, Tyranny, and so on.

Most of those are not for me, but Indie rubbish seems a bit off.