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Re:New ‘past’ link on HN front page by dang on Friday February 22, 2019 @03:05PM (#19228646)
Not new; just the link at the top is new. The hard part was what to call it. Since the point is to give people more to read, 'more' seemed right.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12073675

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18512028

Edit: Oh, also: "more" fits with the "More" links you see at the bottom of the front page and other places, clicking which takes you back to previous posts.

Edit 2: Ok, you guys have convinced me you don't like "more", so let's go with "past". That word is overloaded with 'past' links that point to HN searches, but perhaps those meanings are compatible.

Re:New ‘past’ link on HN front page by sigvef on Friday February 22, 2019 @04:48PM (#19229431)
I guess an answer would be to call it "old", given its placement next to "new" (and the fact that it lets you browse old stories).
Re:New ‘past’ link on HN front page by shpx on Friday February 22, 2019 @05:06PM (#19229572)
or "past".
Re:New ‘past’ link on HN front page by dang on Saturday February 23, 2019 @06:39PM (#19236132)
Ok, we'll go with that for now.

I rejected it originally because there are already 'past' links on thread pages that point to HN Search, but perhaps those meanings are compatible.

Re:New ‘past’ link on HN front page by scott_s on Saturday February 23, 2019 @07:08PM (#19236242)
I think it works well. The context seems clear to me, since the top text is time-based.
Re:New ‘past’ link on HN front page by aboutruby on Saturday February 23, 2019 @07:44PM (#19236363)
Thanks for the reordering also.
Re:New ‘past’ link on HN front page by Wowfunhappy on Friday February 22, 2019 @09:51PM (#19231292)
I like both of these options (more than "more")
Re:New ‘past’ link on HN front page by dmix on Friday February 22, 2019 @10:23PM (#19231388)
It’s neither past nor old but rather it shows the full current day first. Rather top posted grouped by day. So maybe a new ‘top’ IMO.
Re:New ‘past’ link on HN front page by ashishtilak on Friday February 22, 2019 @11:22PM (#19231602)
Or call it 'archive' may be!
Re:New ‘past’ link on HN front page by arendtio on Saturday February 23, 2019 @09:43AM (#19233478)
or 'history' ;-)
Re:New ‘past’ link on HN front page by pavlov on Friday February 22, 2019 @07:03PM (#19230387)
Since it looks up a specific day, how about “pastdays”.
Re:New ‘past’ link on HN front page by Wowfunhappy on Saturday February 23, 2019 @11:57AM (#19234147)
I think they’re trying to keep each nav item a single word.
Re:New ‘past’ link on HN front page by gregknicholson on Saturday February 23, 2019 @02:15PM (#19234983)
“Days”?
Re:New ‘past’ link on HN front page by DoreenMichele on Saturday February 23, 2019 @02:27PM (#19235035)
I like it. But it seems to default to today's date with options to readily explore "this date in history."

So I will suggest: Date

Alternately, I will suggest Top since it defaults to Stories from (today's date), ordered by how long they were on the front page.

Hopefully if enough people toss out suggestions, one will turn out to be a real improvement over more.

Maybe Explore?

Re:New ‘past’ link on HN front page by inopinatus on Friday February 22, 2019 @06:16PM (#19230067)
I think it’s a perfect opportunity to hackerishly use "car | cdr" or "head | tail"
Re:New ‘past’ link on HN front page by chmaynard on Friday February 22, 2019 @03:13PM (#19228708)
Thanks! Just a reminder, don't forget to add a "hide" button under each post. Some of us use "hide" a lot. :)
Re:New ‘past’ link on HN front page by tedmiston on Friday February 22, 2019 @04:49PM (#19229439)
Just curious what purpose you use hide for? It's a feature I've always kinda ignored. (If I don't want to see a story, I just keep scrolling.)
Re:New ‘past’ link on HN front page by ShamelessC on Friday February 22, 2019 @11:05PM (#19231535)
It's good for personal bookkeeping. Whether you've already read a story, the comments or just have no interest - it's nice to get off your page so you don't have the unnecessary clutter and/or distraction.
Re:New ‘past’ link on HN front page by dang on Friday February 22, 2019 @03:18PM (#19228739)
Ok, added.
Re:New ‘past’ link on HN front page by nmstoker on Friday February 22, 2019 @08:35PM (#19230986)
BTW: If there was something to reduce accidental hits on hide and flag, that would be great.

On mobile touch screens, being right under the main links they can get hit a surprising number of times and then you've got to go fumble around to undo it.

Maybe a "comfortable" setting a la Gmail?

Re:New ‘past’ link on HN front page by brazzledazzle on Friday February 22, 2019 @11:43PM (#19231679)
It keeps the normies away.

Just kidding (mostly).

Re:New ‘past’ link on HN front page by pbhjpbhj on Saturday February 23, 2019 @03:59AM (#19232445)
Oh, there's a hide button ...!
Re:New ‘past’ link on HN front page by scott_s on Friday February 22, 2019 @04:02PM (#19229080)
On the name question, perhaps: previously. As in when tv shows continuing a story was novel, and they'd do a "Previously, on Buffy..."
Re:New ‘past’ link on HN front page by dang on Friday February 22, 2019 @04:35PM (#19229315)
I like it, except that it's too long.
Re:New ‘past’ link on HN front page by Deimorz on Friday February 22, 2019 @04:45PM (#19229409)
Maybe "top", since it's the top posts from that date?

I think "more" is a confusing choice because you already have a "More" link at the bottom of the page that goes to the next page.

Re:New ‘past’ link on HN front page by coderintherye on Friday February 22, 2019 @05:01PM (#19229533)
"Afore" would be nice, but it's too esoteric. How about "Ahead" ? Synonym of previously, as well as goes with the idea, like "Go ahead and read another story"
Re:New ‘past’ link on HN front page by e12e on Friday February 22, 2019 @05:45PM (#19229840)
That, or: "ere". Length equal to "new" :)
Re:New ‘past’ link on HN front page by muterad_murilax on Friday February 22, 2019 @06:20PM (#19230109)
What about "previous"? Same length as "comments".
Re:New ‘past’ link on HN front page by zakki on Friday February 22, 2019 @05:42PM (#19229824)
What about “Prev”?
Re:New ‘past’ link on HN front page by oneeyedpigeon on Friday February 22, 2019 @05:25PM (#19229709)
What about just 'recent'?
Re:New ‘past’ link on HN front page by Insanity on Friday February 22, 2019 @10:39PM (#19231438)
But what if you go back 5 years?
Re:New ‘past’ link on HN front page by open-source-ux on Friday February 22, 2019 @05:04PM (#19229555)
Some other alternatives:

- By Date

- Date

- Rewind

- History (confusing?)

- Archive

- Old (new | old)

Re:New ‘past’ link on HN front page by raw_creations on Friday February 22, 2019 @07:04PM (#19230390)
i think -Recap should be on that list, since it really is a recap of what's happening.
Re:New ‘past’ link on HN front page by Fnoord on Friday February 22, 2019 @05:31PM (#19229750)
Time Machine (tm)

/runs

Re:New ‘past’ link on HN front page by chrismorgan on Friday February 22, 2019 @10:23PM (#19231384)
yore
Re:New ‘past’ link on HN front page by hanoz on Friday February 22, 2019 @06:00PM (#19229959)
Surely "top" would be more suitable. Now when I want the second page of "more" I have to ask for more more.
Re:New ‘past’ link on HN front page by chrisfosterelli on Friday February 22, 2019 @06:33PM (#19230194)
On seeing the title I clicked the "more" button on the bottom of the front page and was confused why it seemed the same.
Re:New ‘past’ link on HN front page by dang on Friday February 22, 2019 @10:58PM (#19231506)
I would say "top" has different connotations.

More more doesn't seem so bad? It's between more and more more more.

Re:New ‘past’ link on HN front page by ngokevin on Friday February 22, 2019 @06:07PM (#19230004)
Yeah, feels more like a "top". The current homepage is like Reddit's "hot", and the new "more" is like Reddit's "top".
Re:New ‘past’ link on HN front page by tivert on Friday February 22, 2019 @03:50PM (#19228982)
How do you compute "time spent there?"
Re:New ‘past’ link on HN front page by Karlax on Friday February 22, 2019 @04:11PM (#19229149)
I believe it just means how long the entry stayed on the front page. There shouldn't be anything special about computing this number.
Re:New ‘past’ link on HN front page by tivert on Friday February 22, 2019 @04:12PM (#19229165)
Ah, that makes sense. I'd initially interpreted it as some kind of engagement metric.
Re:New ‘past’ link on HN front page by dang on Friday February 22, 2019 @09:14PM (#19231151)
Yes, I see how that was ambiguous. Have changed the language—is it clearer now?

If anyone can figure out how to make it shorter, let me know. It feels a bit wordy now.

Re:New ‘past’ link on HN front page by jfarlow on Friday February 22, 2019 @05:33PM (#19229764)
yep - I missed that concept too.

"...ordered by {time spent there}->(how long it was on the front page)"

Re:New ‘past’ link on HN front page by karaokeyoga on Friday February 22, 2019 @10:32PM (#19231418)
How about "prior"?
Re:New ‘past’ link on HN front page by dang on Friday February 22, 2019 @10:57PM (#19231501)
Hmm. I like that! It's bookish but not pretentious.

Thinking.

Re:New ‘past’ link on HN front page by testplzignore on Saturday February 23, 2019 @03:34AM (#19232375)
It's organized by days, so how about "daily"? Nice short word that is intuitive to me.
Re:New ‘past’ link on HN front page by em-bee on Saturday February 23, 2019 @04:44AM (#19232548)
or daily top / top daily
Re:New ‘past’ link on HN front page by eslaught on Friday February 22, 2019 @03:48PM (#19228968)
Seems like an archive feature? Since you can go back to see the contents of front pages from previous days. But "Front Page Archive" doesn't necessary condense well into single word unless you're going to call it /archive.
Re:New ‘past’ link on HN front page by digitaltrees on Friday February 22, 2019 @10:21PM (#19231378)
Snapshot. Or Time Capsule. It’s really like a glimpse of the most important news on that specific day. More just feels like moving to the next page.

Really cool concept in my opinion; no matter what the name is.

Re:New ‘past’ link on HN front page by O1111OOO on Friday February 22, 2019 @11:05PM (#19231534)
Agree. More is too often used to display 'more options', which is what I thought this was going to be. I tailgated on your Snapshot and "Time Capsule" suggestions (which I liked) to try to find other one word alternatives. Came up with the following:

cache, record, timecard, log, chronicle, registry, diary, chronology, timeline, calendar, register, log and archive.

I'm partial to snapshot, archive and timeline - as one word substitutes.

Re:New ‘past’ link on HN front page by em-bee on Saturday February 23, 2019 @01:08AM (#19231987)
i would have picked today or maybe front.

more could be confused with the more link at the bottom and it doesn't really tell the whole story.

i discovered front by accident when the above announcement came up in a search, and i have been using it ever since to keep up with the top hits of the day. it actually helps me to read less and limit my time on hackernews.

Re:New ‘past’ link on HN front page by clhodapp on Friday February 22, 2019 @08:30PM (#19230962)
Personally, I would call it "time" as a dual-meaning single word that references both the ability to go to a specific day and the fact that it is computed based on time spent (and maybe also "go here if you find yourself with some extra time to sink in").
Re:New ‘past’ link on HN front page by LeoPanthera on Friday February 22, 2019 @04:18PM (#19229212)
Shouldn't the URL slug also be "more", then?
Re:New ‘past’ link on HN front page by dang on Friday February 22, 2019 @08:48PM (#19231038)
/front seems like the right URL for what's there. But we can't put a 'front' link on the front page.
Re:New ‘past’ link on HN front page by em-bee on Saturday February 23, 2019 @04:42AM (#19232545)
it may look odd, but hackernews readers are inquisitive, and will check it out. on the other hand i would guess that most will ignore more thinking it's the same as the more link at the bottom.

actually the problem with front is not on the front page but on all others where it will make people think that it goes to the front page...

Re:New ‘past’ link on HN front page by galfarragem on Friday February 22, 2019 @04:28PM (#19229266)
It would be more clear to call it time travel.
Re:New ‘past’ link on HN front page by meesterdude on Friday February 22, 2019 @05:31PM (#19229745)
would "browse" be a poor description? given the functionality to move back/forward.
Re:New ‘past’ link on HN front page by Theodores on Friday February 22, 2019 @06:43PM (#19230264)
'digest' as in 'Reader's Digest' and what has already been digested.
Re:New ‘past’ link on HN front page by meesterdude on Saturday February 23, 2019 @08:26PM (#19236543)
Past is better. Not great, but better than more. Thanks for listening!
Re:New ‘past’ link on HN front page by faitswulff on Friday February 22, 2019 @08:05PM (#19230837)
Are new features still implemented in Arc?
Re:New ‘past’ link on HN front page by dang on Friday February 22, 2019 @08:47PM (#19231034)
Always.
Re:New ‘past’ link on HN front page by jahewson on Friday February 22, 2019 @11:56PM (#19231713)
At least it’s not called “less”.
Re:New ‘past’ link on HN front page by em-bee on Saturday February 23, 2019 @04:45AM (#19232549)
well, i do use /front to spend less time on hn, so that would actually work for me :-)
Re:New ‘past’ link on HN front page by animex on Sunday February 24, 2019 @01:24AM (#19237420)
déjà vu