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Re:Tree Style Tabs by TylerE on Sunday January 06, 2019 @02:21AM (#18837070)
and I don't understand how people have more than about 10 tabs and stay sane. Do you people like... not use bookmarks at all?

Heck, most of the sites I visit on anything like a regular basis I only need to type in the first letter or two and they auto-complete.

Re:Tree Style Tabs by zhte415 on Sunday January 06, 2019 @04:08AM (#18837391)
I don't use bookmarks. Tabs are for things I want to read today or at least as long as the browser session's open (could be multi-day, but all in a chain of thought). If I don't get round to them I let them die under the justification "couldn't have been important enough" rather than carry baggage.

I have a personal wiki where I save links together with self-made notes and links/references associated with it. This provides a persistent record that is richer than that which bookmarks can provide, and can be accessed from any device that I happen to be on (my own devices, or devices that aren't my own, or links shared to others).

For regular sites, I too type in the URL and it usually autocompletes.

For myself, bookmarks have always fallen into a middle ground that I don't have much use for.

Re:Tree Style Tabs by gamma-male on Sunday January 06, 2019 @04:15AM (#18837411)
Wow. This is me. TST + personal wiki + pocket
Re:Tree Style Tabs by mirceam on Sunday January 06, 2019 @04:48AM (#18837501)
What did you use to create your personal wiki?
Re:Tree Style Tabs by srikz on Sunday January 06, 2019 @06:44AM (#18837843)
Not OP but I would highly recommend TiddlyWiki[1] as a personal Wiki

[1]: https://tiddlywiki.com/

Re:Tree Style Tabs by gamma-male on Sunday January 06, 2019 @04:58AM (#18837539)
Mediawiki
Re:Tree Style Tabs by NicoJuicy on Sunday January 06, 2019 @04:53PM (#18840966)
I created handlr.Sapico.me as something like HN with tags to keep bookmarks
Re:Tree Style Tabs by piyush_soni on Sunday January 06, 2019 @03:07AM (#18837221)
It's normal for me to have 100 or more tabs. Bookmarks are for more permanent sites - that I know I'll probably have to access multiple times later. If it's just a one time thing, it doesn't deserve to be a bookmark. At the most, it can be a 'ReadItLater' (Pocket) thing. I use Containers and Tab Groups extensively.
Re:Tree Style Tabs by rplnt on Sunday January 06, 2019 @05:30AM (#18837639)
100 tabs on Chrome 10 years ago would not be very nice on the hardware. When you add Chrome's waste-of-space UI and horrible UX (broken ctrl+tab) with no option to change it, it's no wonder people didn't use more than a handful of tabs. On the other hand, if you had a browser that had no issues with it, you might get used to it.

So while it comes down to preference, I think the preference was highly influenced by the technology.

Re:Tree Style Tabs by djur on Sunday January 06, 2019 @03:33AM (#18837304)
Do you never find yourself having to read through 10-20 pages to find a particular piece of information or to get a complete understanding of a topic? I find it really useful to be able to open up a lot of tabs from a single page and then run through them one by one.
Re:Tree Style Tabs by jehlakj on Sunday January 06, 2019 @03:58AM (#18837364)
Especially on websites with infinite scrolling. Anyways, it’s just like the analogy books use to explain caches.
Re:Tree Style Tabs by darkpuma on Sunday January 06, 2019 @04:10PM (#18840732)
> "I don't understand how people have more than about 10 tabs and stay sane. Do you people like... not use bookmarks at all?"

That's a weird assumption, I have several hundred bookmarks. Bookmarks and tabs have different UX and fill different roles. That's why you use 10 tabs and bookmarks, instead of 1 tab and bookmarks. That's why I use 30-40 tabs and bookmarks.

Re:Tree Style Tabs by kccqzy on Sunday January 06, 2019 @05:34AM (#18837651)
Bookmarks are for things I intend to open regularly. Tabs are for things I opened, decided it's interesting enough not to close, but not so interesting that I need to read it immediately.

I have 500 tabs open on my iPhone. It is sort of like a queue of content that I can read when I have excessive free time.

Re:Tree Style Tabs by StavrosK on Sunday January 06, 2019 @05:51AM (#18837696)
If you did read them when you had excessive free time, you wouldn't have 500 tabs open. It sounds like your evaluation function is too optimistic.

I'd like to write an extension that killed your old tabs after a while. I already have an idea to do that with a todo list app that automatically gets rid of your old items.

Re:Tree Style Tabs by kungtotte on Sunday January 06, 2019 @05:48AM (#18837687)
Since you're at 500 items in your queue, something about your workflow is obviously broken.

Either you spend too much time looking for new things to add to the queue, too little time processing the queue, both of the above, or you cast too wide a net for what you might possibly read one day.

Re:Tree Style Tabs by srean on Sunday January 06, 2019 @03:05PM (#18840272)
Judgemental, are we ? 500 would be a low end for me. My avg hovers around 8 to 9 hundred. You probably dont understand his workflow and requirements. Let me guess they are likely different from yours.
Re:Tree Style Tabs by kungtotte on Sunday January 06, 2019 @03:19PM (#18840386)
800 to 900 unprocessed items in your incoming queue of items you want to read/view?

If you can knock one off every day you've got two and a half year's worth of items in your queue that you haven't even looked at yet? This is on top of all the things you are already consuming as part of your work or for leisure and at the same time assuming you don't add more things to the queue.

That's madness, and I don't care if you call me judgmental.

It is unreasonable to have that many items in your to-read queue. Stop adding things or start reading things faster (or better yet, both!)

Re:Tree Style Tabs by srean on Sunday January 06, 2019 @03:38PM (#18840543)
Well I knock off a more than one. You do realize that length of a queue may be totally orthogonal to throughput.

And oh I sure have looked at them, but havent grokked them. Once I do that or I come back to them again and again then they get bumped to a bookmark. Lets say they are part of my job and leisure, sometimes I lose track which is which.

Think generational garbage collection. Tabs and bookmarks are the different generations. I still like tabs better as they preserve more context.

Btw some jobs require more researching than others. Regarding "madness" yes I agree.

Re:Tree Style Tabs by krzyk on Sunday January 06, 2019 @03:05AM (#18837212)
Bookmark is for something that I want to be saved forever, tab is something that I want to read now or soon.
Re:Tree Style Tabs by ech000 on Sunday January 06, 2019 @02:56AM (#18837192)
Same here. The URL bar matches quite good most of the time, so it's more an omni-bar. If I need something, I type it in and it suggests me the page. Having the tab open will suggest me that tab.

But having so many tabs open makes the tab UI useless, so I prefer to close them.

Re:Tree Style Tabs by Kim_Bruning on Sunday January 06, 2019 @11:29AM (#18839056)
Different workflow.

Generally when researching something I'll pick a number of search terms, and for each, I'll actually open a few of the hits (in a new tab each time). Of those hits, most get closed right away once I actually look at them and see they're useless, of the rest, I might read a few, or follow the most relevant seeming links. (But usually close some large number of them)

Wash rinse repeat until I'm actually left with a very small set of things that are pertinent to the task at hand.

(This process does seem to leak slightly. I have to do a separate garbage collection pass once in a while.)

Re:Tree Style Tabs by wvenable on Sunday January 06, 2019 @02:37AM (#18837126)
It's highly difficult on chrome. On Firefox, I use a userChrome.css hack to give me multi-row tabs (which was an old Firefox extension). I have 49 tabs open right now over 3 rows and I can easily read most of the titles on them.

I have never been able to use Chrome effectively because my browsing habits are so tied to being able see many tabs open at once. I almost always open links by opening them in a new tab and I always open a new tab when starting something new.

Re:Tree Style Tabs by jplayer01 on Sunday January 06, 2019 @05:36AM (#18837660)
I only use bookmarks for sites I visit very often or definitely need at some point in the future and I know I'll remember. Bookmarks just aren't very useful.
Re:Tree Style Tabs by chongli on Sunday January 06, 2019 @06:52AM (#18837869)
Bookmarks are not a good UX. They're slow to load, unreliable (link rot), and a chore to keep organized.

Bookmarks are an improvement over writing addresses down on paper or copying and pasting into a text file. That's about it.

Re:Tree Style Tabs by DonHopkins on Sunday January 06, 2019 @08:48AM (#18838276)
General purpose universally available tools like Google Docs, which makes it easy to copy and paste links as well as rich text, graphics or anything else you want to describe them, and share and collaborate in real time, are an enormous improvement over bookmarks! There's really no point to using bookmarks any more.
Re:Tree Style Tabs by dredmorbius on Sunday January 06, 2019 @04:59PM (#18841000)
Unfortunately, with auto-refresh on webpages, I've had tabs rot on me more than once.
Re:Tree Style Tabs by gamma-male on Sunday January 06, 2019 @02:22AM (#18837076)
We use TST :)