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Re:Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th by x0x0 on Monday December 03, 2018 @02:08PM (#18591842)
The vast vast majority of advertisers do not want to be displayed next to porn.

Think of tumblr as nothing but a way to get pageviews for Cheerios and Volvo ads. It explains their decisions perfectly.

Re:Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th by michaelchisari on Monday December 03, 2018 @02:15PM (#18591907)
Every day results in another example of why free platforms supported by advertising might not be viable a long term solution.

I've always said that cheap is better than free. If all services like Tumblr had debuted at a nominal $0.25 or $0.50 a month and that had become normalized as a way to support the platform without mining data or being at the whims of advertisers, the internet might be in a better place.

Instead we have clickbait, engagement addiction and users as products and not customers.

Re:Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th by curuinor on Tuesday December 04, 2018 @12:13AM (#18596496)
you can see something awful and metafilter as examples. they're miniscule and dying now, but somehow despite being the bonafide scum of the internet 2000-2010, something awful has chilled out (and metafilter was always pretty chill)
Re:Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th by jotm on Monday December 03, 2018 @02:51PM (#18592261)
Maybe pay per (full) view? Granular to 1 view if possible, with thumbnails? People would conserve their views but still watch/view the stuff they like. Better than shitty Chinese ads that make me wary of even opening the Youtube app.
Re:Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th by Hoasi on Monday December 03, 2018 @05:57PM (#18594007)
> Every day results in another example of why free platforms supported by advertising might not be viable a long term solution.

Not just free platforms. No publication supported by advertising is a viable long-term solution let alone a desirable one. Advertising-based publishing was never a good idea. The current state of the press is a good example of that too. Unfortunately, there are not that many viable alternatives. People would pay for good journalism, not sure they would or should pay to reblog memes and other people's posts.

Re:Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th by reaperducer on Tuesday December 04, 2018 @01:05AM (#18596766)
No publication supported by advertising is a viable long-term solution

Define what you mean by “long-term.”

America has a number of ad-supported publications that have been publishing for over 250 years. There are probably older ones in Europe and elsewhere.

Re:Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th by Hoasi on Tuesday December 04, 2018 @03:36AM (#18597533)
Yes, thank you, I should have been more precise. Within the context of this Tumblr discussion, that comment refers to online platforms and I believe the comment above does too.

Indeed the ad-supported model is or was viable in print for a long time, although we started to see a shift there as well. Today the print media is struggling, ad revenue may no longer be enough to keep most publications afloat. The fact this model still works for some titles and was viable for centuries doesn't make it particularly good either. With an ad-based structure, the independent press ideal was flawed from the start.

Re:Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th by buboard on Monday December 03, 2018 @02:25PM (#18592036)
> The vast vast majority of advertisers do not want to be displayed next to porn.

This i dont understand though. Who wouldn't their product to be subconsciously associated with sexual satisfaction?

Re:Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th by jotm on Monday December 03, 2018 @02:47PM (#18592241)
Probably the same reason kissing in public is OK, but fucking is not. "Sex sells" doesn't actually mean what it seems to mean.

I'm also wondering why super-targeted advertising (showing actually relevant, and deeper integrated ads for different pages/posts/videos/etc) is still not a thing, there was a movement towards it but it kind of died down, even as everyone is shouting about ML and AI everywhere.

Re:Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th by tomjen3 on Monday December 03, 2018 @04:27PM (#18593251)
Because they are scared it may hurt their brands.

And to be fair, most of the ads that appear near porn is extremely low quality, so they may be right.

Of course it is a self-perpetuating issue, but that doesn't mean that they can just fix it.

Re:Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th by ams6110 on Monday December 03, 2018 @02:43PM (#18592200)
Subconscious is fine. It's overt porn they don't want.
Re:Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th by notyourday on Monday December 03, 2018 @05:59PM (#18594023)
Re:Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th by pvarangot on Monday December 03, 2018 @03:23PM (#18592548)
The click through for non-porn ads besides porn is, in my experience, almost non-existant.
Re:Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th by 666lumberjack on Monday December 03, 2018 @04:17PM (#18593135)
Wasn't there an experiment where a sandwich company bought ads next to videos on Pornhub to target hungry people who'd just gotten off and were hugely successful?

Found it: https://blog.eat24.com/how-to-advertise-on-a-porn-website/

Re:Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th by bilbo0s on Monday December 03, 2018 @04:41PM (#18593384)
Well if you find a sandwich company, you should let them know.

But Mattel, Sony, GM, Apple, and American Airlines aren't signing up anytime soon. That's the problem for Tumblr.

I think this is just one of those instances in which a customer just starts costing you too much money. Will banning the low-rent crowd make a difference at this point? Who can say really. But keeping them pretty much ensures you will not get access to the deep pocketed advertisers.

Re:Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th by number_six on Tuesday December 04, 2018 @12:02PM (#18601223)
Mattel could advertise on all the weird Brony shit, Sony could sell their VR gear, Apple could advertise next to the masochists, American Airlines could advertise seat sales to the country of the ethnicity specific ones... you could make it work.
Re:Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th by zimpenfish on Monday December 03, 2018 @03:53PM (#18592856)
I follow only SFW blogs on Tumblr and the adverts I get are mostly way more sexualised (scantily clad ladies reclining to sell perfume, etc.) and full screen on the iOS app (revealed as you scroll the content). I'm surprised they'd have any problems with NSFW content.
Re:Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th by bk8335 on Monday December 03, 2018 @05:13PM (#18593687)
Except people who watch porn also buy Cheerios and Volvo's - I've never understood why such a massive market is always immediately ruled out in such an ad hungry world.
Re:Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th by evgen on Monday December 03, 2018 @05:33PM (#18593830)
Because the people who sell Cheerios and Volvo's do not want people posting pics of their ads in some camgirl site and annoying the larger audience who don't (admit to) watch porn. Head on over to pornhub, marvel at what must be absolutely mammoth page view counts, and then wonder at the below-the-bottom-of-the-barrel ads that the site is filled with.
Re:Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th by number_six on Tuesday December 04, 2018 @12:03PM (#18601232)
I eat cheerios. I wouldn't not eat cheerio's just because I saw that bee next to a gangbang...
Re:Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th by jazzyjackson on Monday December 03, 2018 @08:36PM (#18595084)
I think the disconnect here is that advertising has a tacit endorsement of the site, everyone knows Volvo and General Foods is writing a check to the pornography host to display their ads.

Brands were so freaked out to have their dish detergent show up next to an ISIS video because whoever uploaded the video gets their check for $5 or whatever, and then they're literally supporting terrorism.

Re:Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th by x0x0 on Tuesday December 04, 2018 @03:41AM (#18597553)
The world is nothing like ad-hungry. Ad rates are falling to the floor.

Advertisers in the current environment can be as picky as they want to be.

Re:Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th by rurp on Monday December 03, 2018 @02:46PM (#18592224)
If that's the goal, then why buy a platform that's rife with porn in the first place?
Re:Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th by dec0dedab0de on Monday December 03, 2018 @02:56PM (#18592303)
well I think they bought yahoo, and tumblr just came with it.
Re:Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th by notyourday on Monday December 03, 2018 @05:56PM (#18593999)
> The vast vast majority of advertisers do not want to be displayed next to porn.

https://www.nycpride.org/sponsors/

You should see what happens on and slightly off the floats.

Re:Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th by odessacubbage on Monday December 03, 2018 @06:34PM (#18594300)
honestly nsfw pages should just be grouped as their own package which could be sold on the basis of attracting higher potential views but also the risk of being associated with controversial content. this could be a great avenue for smaller brands who don't want to have their ads compete with nike & coca-cola for eyeballs. trying to homogenize the audience so that they fit the needs of advertisers is a fundamental failure to understand why people come to these platforms in the first place, and that isn't good for anyone's business
Re:Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th by JohnJamesRambo on Monday December 03, 2018 @05:26PM (#18593786)
Do you think porn watchers don't buy Cheerios and Volvos?
Re:Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th by est on Monday December 03, 2018 @07:19PM (#18594608)
so no ads for adult tumblrs then.

Why shutting them down? You can't tag adult content or you can't write a SELECT...WHERE filter?