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Re:Violence Escalates as France Scrambles to Respond to ‘Yel... by hbbio on Saturday December 01, 2018 @04:55PM (#18579200)
France has high taxes, but at the same time provides more services than other countries: free education including higher education, free healthcare, generous unemployment package, etc. Even more, this is done without closing the door to immigration.

Regarding the current movement which started with taxes on gas, the tax raise is insignificant vs. the actual oil price increase. Read this article (in French) for more information: https://www.lemonde.fr/les-decodeurs/article/2018/11/09/peti...

Also, the people who go into the protests to break cars and shops have nothing to do with the original movement. Some clearly came to loot shops (if you are anarchist, you want to burn luxury clothing items, not take them), some are anarchists who came to fight police forces, etc.

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Re:Violence Escalates as France Scrambles to Respond to ‘Yel... by rdm_blackhole on Saturday December 01, 2018 @05:00PM (#18579242)
Taxes on gasoline make up 50% of the price.

To pretend that the increase in taxes is there to help pay for renewable energies is a joke.

It's not a secret that the government is broke and looking to raise money any way it can.

It's trying to pass this tax increase as something that needs to be done to save the planet.

But they dont tax the fuel for tankers or airplanes so where is the logic?

It's not the little guy with his diesel car that does most of the damage to the environment.

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Re:Violence Escalates as France Scrambles to Respond to ‘Yel... by JeanMarcS on Saturday December 01, 2018 @05:05PM (#18579262)
> But they dont tax the fuel for tankers or airplanes so where is the logic?

Can they ? The only thing that will happen is no plane or tanker will buy fuel in France if it is not a decision made on an international level, no ?

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Re:Violence Escalates as France Scrambles to Respond to ‘Yel... by daleco on Sunday December 02, 2018 @07:24AM (#18582034)
I think that planes refuel at each trip. They wouldn’t have the choice.
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Re:Violence Escalates as France Scrambles to Respond to ‘Yel... by Tuxer on Monday December 03, 2018 @02:18PM (#18591941)
It is. 40% of french emissions are due to personal transportation (cars), 8% airplanes.
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Re:Violence Escalates as France Scrambles to Respond to ‘Yel... by Mikeb85 on Saturday December 01, 2018 @05:07PM (#18579279)
This is a very idealized version of reality. France also has high unemployment, especially amongst youth and immigrants, migrant camps popping up, civil unrest, many regions where the economy is going to shit and industries are disappearing, etc...
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Re:Violence Escalates as France Scrambles to Respond to ‘Yel... by onetimemanytime on Saturday December 01, 2018 @04:58PM (#18579229)
You need to pay the taxes, your expenses and then you may use what the state provides. If you raise taxes and fees by X% for a few years and wages stagnate, people might forget the free education, since they can't pay their rent.

I like the European tradition, it gets their attention, and messing with people's bread and butter is a cause to rise up

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Re:Violence Escalates as France Scrambles to Respond to ‘Yel... by sbarker on Saturday December 01, 2018 @04:58PM (#18579228)
No one gives a fuck about services if you can’t get some bread.
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Re:Violence Escalates as France Scrambles to Respond to ‘Yel... by thefounder on Saturday December 01, 2018 @05:10PM (#18579295)
you don't know what you are talking about.
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