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Re:Manhattan DA's office drops more than 3,000 open marijuan... by kevmo on Wednesday September 12, 2018 @09:04PM (#17975048)
This is likely stemming at least in part from Cynthia Nixon's strong run for the Democratic nomination for governor of New York. She is running to the left of the current governor, Andrew Cuomo (Mario Cuomo's son), and has been making these sorts of outdated drug charges an issue.
Re:Manhattan DA's office drops more than 3,000 open marijuan... by digianarchist on Wednesday September 12, 2018 @10:57PM (#17975605)
Cuomo's polling numbers are up today but even last week he was 40 points ahead.

She hasn't got a snowball's chance in hell of winning this primary.

Re:Manhattan DA's office drops more than 3,000 open marijuan... by notafraudster on Wednesday September 12, 2018 @11:02PM (#17975631)
I agree (and have advised friends to make money on PredictIt soaking up the liquidity from people emotionally investing in her chances).

However, that's often not the point. If you are progressive (conservative) there is a strong incentive to challenge incumbents on your own side because any impact you have on the ideas discussed is likely to work in your favor; and indeed it's possible the incumbent agrees with you on those issues but just wants political cover to acquiesce. So I'm not really troubled if Cuomo happens to discover a more progressive streak or makes some concessions even though he's going to pulverize her come polling day.

I think it would be accurate to say that Nixon has run an unusually strong campaign and done an unusually good job of calling attention to real issues, even knowing she has no chance of winning and isn't a serious candidate by that standard.

[Note: I am not a resident of NY State and can't legally vote in the state I live in.]

Re:Manhattan DA's office drops more than 3,000 open marijuan... by mike10010100 on Thursday September 13, 2018 @09:57AM (#17978625)
Precisely. Her value stems from her efforts to shift the Overton window, not from the chance she will win.
Re:Manhattan DA's office drops more than 3,000 open marijuan... by charmides on Thursday September 13, 2018 @01:34AM (#17976301)
I have not found much opportunity on PredictIt to exploit that sort of thing. Seems like most people there attempt to make rational investments.
Re:Manhattan DA's office drops more than 3,000 open marijuan... by creaghpatr on Thursday September 13, 2018 @10:23AM (#17978804)
You need at least a 3x return opportunity to make it worth the time. They charge a 10% vig and a processing fee to draw your winnings, plus you get taxed as gambling winnings.
Re:Manhattan DA's office drops more than 3,000 open marijuan... by Alex3917 on Thursday September 13, 2018 @12:28AM (#17976025)
> Cuomo's polling numbers are up today but even last week he was 40 points ahead.

I mean Joe Crowley would have probably been 40 points ahead if that race had been polled. I realize it's not the same, but state polls in midterm primaries must have an enormous margin of error.

Re:Manhattan DA's office drops more than 3,000 open marijuan... by bobthepanda on Thursday September 13, 2018 @02:20AM (#17976448)
The NYT actually did a great writeup of this the other day: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/11/us/politics/primary-elect...

TLDR:

- Pollsters often use party allegiance to sanity check their results, but that's irrelevant in a primary

- No one really pays attention to a primary early on (unlike presidential campaigns, which start earlier and earlier every cycle), so early polling is not representative of final voting

- Pollsters have to guesstimate how many voters of a certain type will show up at the polls, but nonpresidential primaries are super low turnout historically especially in noncompetitive areas, and some disgruntled voters for insurgent campaigns can upset this prediction

- Pollsters have a hard time reaching young people and minorities, who are usually not on landlines and are less likely pick up numbers from strangers

Re:Manhattan DA's office drops more than 3,000 open marijuan... by hnmcQIOoQUDv on Thursday September 13, 2018 @02:56AM (#17976585)
She's not going to win, but Cuomo is going to lose reelection. He's so thoroughly fucked up the subway he's lost NYC.
Re:Manhattan DA's office drops more than 3,000 open marijuan... by jdanp on Thursday September 13, 2018 @09:24AM (#17978393)
God I hope so. I'm in for Larry Sharpe all the way.
Re:Manhattan DA's office drops more than 3,000 open marijuan... by JakeKalstad on Thursday September 13, 2018 @10:44AM (#17978979)
One can only hope. Unfortunately the NYC mentality is more excited to throw money at the dumpster fire and complain endlessly than accept that it needs to be starved and restructured.
Re:Manhattan DA's office drops more than 3,000 open marijuan... by mike10010100 on Thursday September 13, 2018 @09:59AM (#17978636)
Yes, because nothing says "fix public transit" like electing a Libertarian.
Re:Manhattan DA's office drops more than 3,000 open marijuan... by digianarchist on Friday September 14, 2018 @08:00AM (#17986537)
Even in Nixon stays on the ballot Cuomo is still going to win.
Re:Manhattan DA's office drops more than 3,000 open marijuan... by SlowRobotAhead on Thursday September 13, 2018 @04:38AM (#17977006)
Hope your right. It’s time for him to go.
Re:Manhattan DA's office drops more than 3,000 open marijuan... by everdev on Wednesday September 12, 2018 @09:33PM (#17975202)
I think the majority like the idea but surprised there isn't a financial effort from the prison and associated industries to fight the idea. If it works though, it's a huge win for getting minor offenders out of concrete cages.
Re:Manhattan DA's office drops more than 3,000 open marijuan... by true_religion on Wednesday September 12, 2018 @10:11PM (#17975392)
Goverment officials can just ignore financial efforts of private companies, when their reelection campaign is not dependent on that money. If by fighting a private company, you make voters happy then those votes directly gotten can be worth more than any votes that added campaign funds would possibly give.
Re:Manhattan DA's office drops more than 3,000 open marijuan... by forapurpose on Wednesday September 12, 2018 @10:53PM (#17975587)
> Goverment officials can just ignore financial efforts of private companies, when their reelection campaign is not dependent on that money.

I'm not sure what you mean. Isn't the whole problem that winning elections is heavily dependent on money?

Re:Manhattan DA's office drops more than 3,000 open marijuan... by dfxm12 on Thursday September 13, 2018 @10:16AM (#17978760)
heavily dependent

So even you concede that it's not totally dependent. Boiling elections down to one problem is a gross oversimplification. Yeah you need money, but you also need a platform people want to vote for. You need good faith with your electorate.

What good is cash if you've alienated your base? What good is cash if you've already got 32x more than your opponent (Cuomo's $16MM to Nixon's $500k)[0]?

Right now, Cuomo's at a greater risk losing progressive votes than running out of money. The memories of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez v Joe Crowley are still fresh in everyone's mind. Money didn't help Crowley there...

0 - https://nypost.com/2018/09/05/cuomo-spent-8-million-in-three...

Re:Manhattan DA's office drops more than 3,000 open marijuan... by dsfyu404ed on Thursday September 13, 2018 @05:15AM (#17977164)
In a one party state like NY all you have to do is win the primary.
Re:Manhattan DA's office drops more than 3,000 open marijuan... by forapurpose on Thursday September 13, 2018 @09:48AM (#17978557)
Agreed about one party election districts (statewide or otherwise), but winning the primary still depends on money. It's an interesting question about whether it depends on money more or less than in districts decided by the general election.

Many fewer people vote in the primary, but perhaps those people are harder to reach, or perhaps who shows up depends heavily on money (or perhaps something else).

Also, I observe that politicians want money for more than their elections. They provide funds from their treasure chest to other politicians and groups. I wonder how much that use of money affects their fundraising and money's influence on them. (I think it seems like a source of corruption, and that money donated for the election should be spent on it or returned.)

Re:Manhattan DA's office drops more than 3,000 open marijuan... by notfromhere on Thursday September 13, 2018 @10:31AM (#17978869)
No. The difference is that NY Dem primary voters are over 50% in NYC, NY state voters are a greater portion in the general election.

So running too left can win you the primary but lose the general.

Cuomo is trying to move left but not too left to leave him vulnerable to a state challenge

Re:Manhattan DA's office drops more than 3,000 open marijuan... by bbddg on Thursday September 13, 2018 @12:05AM (#17975917)
That's not at all what happens in reality.
Re:Manhattan DA's office drops more than 3,000 open marijuan... by smhost on Wednesday September 12, 2018 @10:17PM (#17975413)
dems probably "asked" them on behalf of cuomo not to fight it
Re:Manhattan DA's office drops more than 3,000 open marijuan... by CPLX on Wednesday September 12, 2018 @10:28PM (#17975472)
That’s not a really accurate read of how NY/NYC politics works. Manhattan DA’s office is more symbiotic with the mayor, and hasn’t traditionally been really defined in relationship to Albany. With that said the general progressive climate is certainly relevant, ranging from Nixon to Ocasio to Teachout.