MSRP on cards from OEMs should start at $499 for the 2070 and $699 for the 2080 ($100 cheaper than Nvidia's).
Personally I still think it's insane. I have a GTX 970 from October 2014 and that was $369.
EDIT: Even my $369 was a bit of a premium (OC edition and shortly after launch, I don't remember but I'm guessing I bought whatever was in stock). Wikipedia claims the GTX 970 launched in September 2014 at $329.
Assuming the $329 MSRP is comparable to the $499 announcement, the __70 line is up 52% in two generations. I'm sure it's better hardware, but that's a big pile of money.
And if my 970 experience holds through today, the OEM cards that are actually available are going to be pricier than the MSRP, but maybe still lower than the Founder's Edition.
We'll see where the 2060 ends up.
Does that mean the 10 series isn't worth it? By all means, no. The 9 series was still an excellent series when 10 was released, and people did pick the up.
The 2080 Ti FE, however, is in a league closer to the Titan X/Xp, which were at $1,200. Also they're releasing the highest-end Ti edition at the same time as the ordinary version, which is a first for Nvidia, I think? (The Titan Xp was also launched after, not concurrently, with the 10xx series...) I think the concurrent launch of the 2080 Ti with the ordinary variant means they're positioning it more like an alternative to the Xp, while the non-Ti variants are closer to the ordinary gaming cards you'd normally get. In other words, for people willing to blow their price/perf budget a bit more.
For DL workloads the 1080 Ti is very cost effective (vs the Xp), so it remains to be seen which variant will have the better bang/buck ratio for those uses. I suspect the fact these include Tensor Cores at their given price point will probably be a major selling point regardless of the exact model choice, especially among hobbyist DL users. The RTX line will almost certainly be better in terms of price/perf for local DL work, no matter the bloated margins vs older series.
They may also be keeping prices a bit inflated, besides margins, so they can keep selling older stock and pushing it out. The 9xx series, as you said, continued to sell for a while after 10xx was released. I expect the same will be true this time around, too, especially with prices being so high.
Ehhh, yes really.
1080 FE $699 USD 2080 FE $799 USD
That qualifies as almost the same price in my book. By and large, not a 70-90% price increase as being suggested.
Unless you want to explain how 700-800 is a 70-90% price increase?
I do not get why you're being so bizarrely negative about this card. Yes, there are an enormous number of applications, for both training and inference, where an 11GB ridiculously powerful card (both in OPS and in memory speed) can be enormously useful.
That qualifies as about the same price in my book, and not a 70-90% jump.
As for the Ti price when 1080 series was released, there was none.
The 2080's price will drop eventually, until then nVidia has no reason to lower prices when they are going to be sold out for weeks if not months.
RTX 2070 cards will start at $499, with RTX 2080 at $699, and the RTX 2080 Ti starting at $999.
1080s are ~$450, will now be $799. 1070s are ~$400, will now be $599.
(I'm going off the top hits on Newegg)