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Re:Ask HN: Best practices for onboarding new employees? by projectramo on Wednesday June 06, 2018 @11:00AM (#17247670)
This is how I've seen it done in very small companies:

1. Greet the new person and ask them what they are doing there? Are they a vendor? client? someone who accidentally walked in? Oh, they're a new employee.

2. Ask them if they know what their job is supposed to be. If not, find them a spot to sit down while you ask around.

3. Ask IT to get them a laptop. If they don't have one, send out to get one from best buy. When they ask what type say "good, but not too expensive"

4. Ask them how their day is, if they want coffee

5. Get back to work, forget about them.

6. Go back and realize that no one knows what they are supposed to do.

7. Randomly assign them various tasks.

Whatever best practices are must surely be the opposite of this.

At large companies I have seen:

1. 12 binders full of details about healthcare, policies, what happens if you pass away and other remote events

2. Orientation that feels like an abstract business school course

3. On day 1, you are asked to do something really simple to get your bearings.

4. Day 2, you are asked to do something really massive because by now you must surely know your way around.

Re:Ask HN: Best practices for onboarding new employees? by pcmoney on Wednesday June 06, 2018 @04:09PM (#17250636)
Out of undergrad I was recruited by a major defense contractor and selected for a leadership development program. Aside from making me fly various places and do nothing they also made me do nothing at my "home" desk in a secure facility (so no cell phone or playful browsing) by myself.

I found a bunch of old math texts and starting reading them and doing practice problems out of sheer boredom. It was then without the stress of juggling other subjects and exams that I realized I actually liked math and just had terrible teachers for most of my education. I went through Calc I,II, III in the first month or two (some was review) and by the time I quit about a year later I had enough momentum and interest to go through differential equations, linear algebra, some analysis, and more advanced matrix methods.

It was one of my favorite jobs.

Re:Ask HN: Best practices for onboarding new employees? by spicytunacone on Wednesday June 06, 2018 @09:18PM (#17252505)
Very jealous. There was a defense contractor in my city I admittedly applied to out of undergrad mostly because I wanted to peruse their library, mostly texts on discrete maths. Glad you could discover your interest in the subject.
Re:Ask HN: Best practices for onboarding new employees? by swerveonem on Wednesday June 06, 2018 @09:13PM (#17252483)
You passed up a leadership career at a defense contractor to read some books you could have read at home? Sounds like they recognized that this person they hired wasn't all that and decided that rather than fire you and risk a lot of paper work they tucked you away knowing that you would quit eventually, this is often preferable to termination. The odds that your lack of productivity went unnoticed is slim, they noticed. I've been in a similar situation, the appropriate action and the path worthy of leadership would be to self seek out innovations and begin drafting proposals for business process improvements. You might have actually been stealing time. What were your interactions with your direct supervisors like, what would you talk about?
Re:Ask HN: Best practices for onboarding new employees? by pcmoney on Tuesday June 12, 2018 @01:33AM (#17290935)
Oh it was all fine, just the work wasn’t hard or interesting and there wasn’t that much of it (except for crazy spikes for 2-3 weeks sometimes) I dont feel like I passed on anything significant. I was just really under utilized. I got poached by a startup and they offered to match but I declined. If your great goal is leadership at a DoD shop I would recommend a better goal. Even if you make it up the ladder over 15-35 years the top of that ladder just isn’t that great, or at least it wasn’t for me. I keep in touch with some other people from the program, all have since moved on. I would say this indicates the program didn’t know how to utilize and retain the “talent” it selected for. And sure you can argue we all weren’t that talented, I don’t particularly care, I am very happy with that particular career choice.
Re:Ask HN: Best practices for onboarding new employees? by swanson on Wednesday June 06, 2018 @11:14AM (#17247794)
> 12 binders full of details about healthcare, policies, what happens if you pass away and other remote events

My biggest pet peeve. Oh, you're a 23 year old college grad? Better take time during your first hour of being in the real world to pick your life insurance policy and memorize what building alarm code to use if you happen to be the only one in the office at 4am on a Sunday (during a holiday weekend).

Re:Ask HN: Best practices for onboarding new employees? by lainga on Wednesday June 06, 2018 @11:55AM (#17248153)
This was an actual exchange during my onboarding at a previous job:

"Please provide six contact addresses for the company's emergency notification system."

"I don't have six contact addresses."

"Just repeat some on the form."

Re:Ask HN: Best practices for onboarding new employees? by drdeadringer on Thursday June 07, 2018 @12:20PM (#17257258)
I had to create and then maintain an excel file for this reason. There is no other way I am remembering who witnessed me living somewhere 15 years ago.
Re:Ask HN: Best practices for onboarding new employees? by Adamantcheese on Wednesday June 06, 2018 @12:29PM (#17248512)
Just don't spend 2 weeks on step 5, because that happened to me at my current job. They completely forgot they even hired me and wondered who that guy was in that cubicle over there.
Re:Ask HN: Best practices for onboarding new employees? by jordan801 on Wednesday June 06, 2018 @01:19PM (#17249028)
That happened to me. I was hired at a company, left to go to army basic training, came back and they didn't manage me at all for months. Then they gave me a job to do with about two minutes of explanation, forgot about me, then almost fired me 6 months later because I was doing it wrong. No management, no training. But I am still here almost 8 years later.
Re:Ask HN: Best practices for onboarding new employees? by mdrzn on Thursday June 07, 2018 @03:16AM (#17253906)
You being there for 8 more years was an unexpected twist. Any other "situation" that you could share?
Re:Ask HN: Best practices for onboarding new employees? by shinryuu on Wednesday June 06, 2018 @02:08PM (#17249500)
Did it go better after those 6 months? I'd be keen to hear more of this story!
Re:Ask HN: Best practices for onboarding new employees? by dirktheman on Wednesday June 06, 2018 @02:30PM (#17249727)
I once spent 6 months at a job where they forgot that I still worked there. I was outsourced, but when the project was finished I expected a call that my contract was finished also. Call never came, I kept showing up, outsourcing company kept paying me and the client was apparently very happy with me, even though I didn't do much.

I taught myself how to code and GTFOT.

Re:Ask HN: Best practices for onboarding new employees? by projectramo on Wednesday June 06, 2018 @12:33PM (#17248558)
That was your opportunity to take over.

You should have started drawing up strategic vision charts, cheesy motivational posters and started talking to people about getting in touch with their authentic values.

Re:Ask HN: Best practices for onboarding new employees? by iagovar on Wednesday June 06, 2018 @03:44PM (#17250421)
I have a guy like that in my job. I don't really understand why we hired him.
Re:Ask HN: Best practices for onboarding new employees? by laythea on Wednesday June 06, 2018 @01:58PM (#17249414)
I cant tell whether you are joking. Seriously. What did you do for 2 weeks?
Re:Ask HN: Best practices for onboarding new employees? by pc86 on Wednesday June 06, 2018 @02:10PM (#17249513)
He's on HN on day 3, just hoping it turns into 2 weeks
Re:Ask HN: Best practices for onboarding new employees? by harlanji on Wednesday June 06, 2018 @05:08PM (#17251139)
I would say this, and I can’t find a time period after which it becomes OK. And that’s fine. Seems you have some covert contracts. I’ve been the black sheep at several SF jobs, not in on the FB and Slack OFftopic channel fun. Invited, but not partaking, and eventually being ousted by same people if I don’t leave first. The importance of a right fit and fail fast mentality. But it’s a 2 way street. Observe the specimen for a statistically meaningful time period, or chill and trust the hiring process.
Re:Ask HN: Best practices for onboarding new employees? by Adamantcheese on Monday June 11, 2018 @11:55AM (#17285322)
Oh crap I didn't realize people would actually respond to me. I just kinda sat at my cubicle and did nothing. Everything was blocked on the internet so I couldn't really do much. Went home and cried.
Re:Ask HN: Best practices for onboarding new employees? by thirduncle on Wednesday June 06, 2018 @03:31PM (#17250292)
I cant tell whether you are joking. Seriously.

That's what life in a Big Corp is quite often like, actually.

Re:Ask HN: Best practices for onboarding new employees? by laythea on Wednesday June 06, 2018 @03:51PM (#17250479)
Yes but, what did he do?
Re:Ask HN: Best practices for onboarding new employees? by mlthoughts2018 on Wednesday June 06, 2018 @12:37PM (#17248589)
You have an actual cubicle? What heaven employer is this?
Re:Ask HN: Best practices for onboarding new employees? by jhallenworld on Wednesday June 06, 2018 @02:01PM (#17249440)
>Ask IT to get them a laptop

Hah! It's never ready in time :-)

Although one startup I worked for was bought by IBM. We were issued our new (Thinkpad) laptops on takeover day (very organized) and were introduced to this thing called "Lotus Notes". We had all been using Thunderbird so this was quite a shock.

Re:Ask HN: Best practices for onboarding new employees? by privacypoller on Wednesday June 06, 2018 @02:26PM (#17249677)
Generally true - I had a contracting engagement start where they paid me to sit there and "program without a computer" for more than a week while they tried to get one built.

My most recent start however was super-refreshing; Brand new computer with all standard developer software, network connections and accounts setup and waiting for me at the start of day 1. The phone that I never use but was required to get took another week to get setup & configured however...

Re:Ask HN: Best practices for onboarding new employees? by madengr on Wednesday June 06, 2018 @09:10PM (#17252470)
The sad thing is that Outlook is better than Notes.
Re:Ask HN: Best practices for onboarding new employees? by joshvm on Wednesday June 06, 2018 @02:30PM (#17249721)
How small is very small (given that they have an IT department)? 96% of private companies in the UK are less than 10 people, for example, covering 1/3 of the workforce. 99.9% are < 250 people. The remaining 0.1% (big corps) employ 40% of the working population.

0-9 is small enough that a few of those points are less likely to happen. It's still possible to be ignored, but you're a significant percentage of the workforce and the comapny is throwing money away if you're not productive quickly. Under 10 and you likely report directly to a CEO/CTO, or possibly one person below.

Re:Ask HN: Best practices for onboarding new employees? by drdeadringer on Thursday June 07, 2018 @11:48AM (#17256904)
> Day 2, you are asked to do something really massive because by now you must surely know your way around.

At big companies, my experience has been that if you know either where something is or what color something is, you are now the goto expert on that something for the rest of your life.

Re:Ask HN: Best practices for onboarding new employees? by theyinwhy on Thursday June 07, 2018 @01:28AM (#17253502)
(Very) big company onboarding story:

On day one, a battle tested project manager talked to me 8 hours straight, telling me every single detail about everything. He even talked during lunch.

On day two, he asked me to do something really massive because by now I must surely know me way around.

Re:Ask HN: Best practices for onboarding new employees? by droopybuns on Wednesday June 06, 2018 @11:06AM (#17247715)
highly astute