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Re:Ask HN: What has HN given you? by arkis22 on Sunday February 18, 2018 @08:03PM (#16410007)
I've been through a lot of web communities. HN is easily the most intellectual, respectful, and diverse. The simple reason is that we like to be here!

In the same way that it takes a village to raise a child, your understanding of the world around you is drastically deepened by various points of view. I don't expect to find a better village anytime soon.

Re:Ask HN: What has HN given you? by hycaria on Monday February 19, 2018 @03:15AM (#16411493)
I would not say diverse though. This community is hugely biased towards an american, transhumanist point of view. There's an "european" minority who does not seems as egocentric (and libertarian maybe ?) as the majority, which is a bit reassuring.

Anyways as much as I like HN and its often insightful comments, this has proven me that I would have a hard time living/working in the US as we don't share the same values at all it seems. I kinda understand the valley's spirit better though, which is nice considering its huge impact on everyone's tech life.

Re:Ask HN: What has HN given you? by sah2ed on Monday February 19, 2018 @05:34AM (#16412029)
> This community is hugely biased towards an american, transhumanist point of view.

I used to think this too, but after thinking about it a little more, I've come to the conclusion that the perception of bias towards a certain viewpoint in any thread is colored by the day of week (some old-timers frequent on weekends), the time of day (US lunch breaks and close of business), and the members who are drawn to the topics that you are interested in.

In other words, my perception of the "prevailing" bias tends to fluctuate with the time of day (I don't have a fixed schedule for visiting HN) or topics I currently have open.

Sometimes, out of curiosity, I click on a random thread (typically high comments/upvotes) with a title that I would ordinarily have not clicked on, just to get a sense of what the community is yapping about :).

Re:Ask HN: What has HN given you? by hutzlibu on Monday February 19, 2018 @08:52AM (#16412844)
What do you understand by "american, transhumanist" point of view?

And I am a european, though I don't see libertarian views beeing the majority at all ... rather the contrary ..

Re:Ask HN: What has HN given you? by hycaria on Monday February 19, 2018 @10:25AM (#16413397)
American as in use your car because public transportation is for poor people anyways (and who cares about ecology nowadays when everything will be resolved with technology ? -at least according to some people here, see second point-), be fat and sick. I really have the impression that people are not so healthy overall, I mean of course there's a bias as you don't speak to talk about your fine shape, but still.

Transhumanist as in there will always be some guy in every biology/medicine thread to talk about how we will evolve as a species, or claim that immortality is achievable or the likes. This is especially prominent here (and was shocking to me at first), because these opinions are not so common otherwise (in society or online communities). I guess it's just the demographics and personal interests of people here that explain this phenomenon, but I was very surprised.

Re:Ask HN: What has HN given you? by dcow on Monday February 19, 2018 @04:06PM (#16415755)
I've felt the trans-humanist vibe historically but to be honest lately I've felt things swinging the other way (towards more pragmatic humanism).

Can you explain more about this "irresponsible indifferent American fat and sick" thing you've encountered? As an American, I'm curious what has given you that impression specifically on HN.

Re:Ask HN: What has HN given you? by hycaria on Tuesday February 20, 2018 @04:56AM (#16419086)
I already did.

But PT is not seen as viable, people enjoy living in suburbs and being reliant on private cars for anything, culturally less sensible to ecological matters overall compared to europeans (even though in Europe it scales, and I've felt people enclined to think ecologically most in Switzerland and Germany), mass consumption (people really love Amazon... I mean Europeans do too but Prime is less of a thing here).

Also in healthcare threads (which I browse a lot since that's my original field) I've often seen comments about massive weight loss, illnesses esp diet/digestive or diabetus related (like, in a scale I don't see as much amongst my regional communities). Also how people seem to discover once in a while what a healthy diet is (culturally less prevalent in the US than over here it seems).

This is probably especially shocking to me since I have above average interest in these topics, granted. But I'm still very shocked by the US culture which imo shows and prevails here in subtle things. But every now and then I'm like "ah, true, this is most probably an US user". At least it calms down the lust I could have after working there :)

Re:Ask HN: What has HN given you? by dcow on Tuesday February 20, 2018 @02:00PM (#16422962)
Interesting.. yeah I don't have an eye out like you do so I didn't quite understand how you were getting the sense that more Americans are less healthy (which I don't disagree with) just from HN comments.
Re:Ask HN: What has HN given you? by chris_st on Sunday February 18, 2018 @08:26PM (#16410102)
This says it quite well.

I'd just add that frequently someone will mention something, anywhere from some open-source project to some deep area of science, and the author mentioned, (who is already a member!) chimes in with clarifications and further explanation. Wow.

Re:Ask HN: What has HN given you? by opportune on Sunday February 18, 2018 @11:35PM (#16410771)
I'm very curious as to whether there are any other communities on the web that are as generally "high quality" as HN (bonus points if those communities are tech-focused or tech-adjacent). Anybody got any links?

To date HN has the highest (consistent) quality of any online community I've encountered

Re:Ask HN: What has HN given you? by petercooper on Monday February 19, 2018 @10:23AM (#16413390)
https://www.metafilter.com/ - it's been going for almost 20 years. Not really tech per se, but is tech/liberal/academic leaning.
Re:Ask HN: What has HN given you? by verylittlemeat on Monday February 19, 2018 @11:10AM (#16413675)
Just a note, you have to pay a one time fee of $5 to comment on metafilter.

Also I say the following as a long time member of metafilter: it's really gone downhill. If you're the type of person who thinks dissenting opinion on hacker news is restricted you will probably be shocked by what goes on at metafilter. They have a serious problem with passive aggressive bullying and groupthink on political and social justice issues.I don't think it's hyperbole to say that the conversation there has been hijacked by a handful of aggressive users who shameless brigade threads to their narrative. Metafilter is a shadow of what it was even 5 years ago.

That said, ask.metafilter.com is the best part of metafilter and is worth the $5 price of admission alone.

Re:Ask HN: What has HN given you? by hobofan on Monday February 19, 2018 @02:55AM (#16411419)
lobster.rs[0] is pretty good for tech (specifially software development) topics.

[0]: https://lobste.rs/

Re:Ask HN: What has HN given you? by corobo on Monday February 19, 2018 @09:37AM (#16413089)
My first impression:

"Deldo is a sex toy control and teledildonics mode for Emacs"

Re:Ask HN: What has HN given you? by abhishekjha on Tuesday February 20, 2018 @11:39AM (#16421617)
It is pretty good though. Never got an invite and din’t know how to. :( Seems like a very closed group.
Re:Ask HN: What has HN given you? by chrisper on Monday February 19, 2018 @01:11AM (#16411074)
I'd say Quora is rather good as well.
Re:Ask HN: What has HN given you? by sleavey on Monday February 19, 2018 @01:56AM (#16411196)
Nowhere near as high quality as it used to be though. I stopped my email digest there a year ago.
Re:Ask HN: What has HN given you? by opportune on Monday February 19, 2018 @02:03AM (#16411224)
Yeah I agree with this. I've tried to use Quora before (about 2 years ago) but couldn't get my signal/noise ratio nearly as good as I wanted it to be
Re:Ask HN: What has HN given you? by hutzlibu on Monday February 19, 2018 @08:56AM (#16412856)
It was very good in the beginning. Now it is mostly people trying to show off any way they can. And it attracted too many ... well, let's call them ordinary mainstream people.
Re:Ask HN: What has HN given you? by mdnormy on Sunday February 18, 2018 @10:18PM (#16410515)
Completely agree. To add to that, HN also makes me feel inadequate, but in a good way. That in return "forces" me to always improve and strive for the better especially in my career.
Re:Ask HN: What has HN given you? by _jcwu on Monday February 19, 2018 @01:14AM (#16411084)
I remember when I first joined that I really liked how people who disagree here do not downvote but rather challenge you through a comment. It was a nice change from reddit...

But times have changed and people love to downvote here these days.

Re:Ask HN: What has HN given you? by verylittlemeat on Monday February 19, 2018 @11:02AM (#16413622)
I think hacker news does an ok job at mitigating this by not allowing you to downvote until you reach a certain amount of karma.

Obviously that creates its own problems but at least you have to have a little bit invested in the community before you can start trying to dictate the conversation.

Re:Ask HN: What has HN given you? by sanderjd on Monday February 19, 2018 @05:20PM (#16416231)
Honest question: how do you know? There doesn't seem to be any public voting data available. Is this just an impression you have?
Re:Ask HN: What has HN given you? by meesterdude on Monday February 19, 2018 @01:22AM (#16411108)
> HN is easily the most intellectual, respectful, and diverse.

I might agree with the first point, but the latter two have a checkered past, and would indeed be two points of improvement I think we as a community would do well to focus more on.

Re:Ask HN: What has HN given you? by RobertRoberts on Monday February 19, 2018 @01:31AM (#16411135)
Well I agree fully with his point, when it's weighted against the rest of the internet, it's spot on. :)