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Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by propman on Thursday December 14, 2017 @03:26PM (#15926629)
Facebook has become almost completely useless to me yet I waste so much time on it every day. No one posts anything on it except like 3 guys who post 10 times a day that I barely know yet find their extremist political posts mind numbingly amusing. The news on there is trash, I much prefer the WSJ and if I want sensationalist things I'll go to Reddit and my tastes are more niche now so I have some forums I visit occasionally for better discussion.

I have never in 10 years clicked on a single ad and I've removed the apps so I don't get autoplaying videos so I'm not bothered by the future ads on there. Messenger is important to me and the Birthday list is too. Without those I wouldn't deCtivate since you need it as social proof for Tinder, but I'd never go back on.

Honestly, I was busy for just 3 days and didn't log on and the "addiction" completely vanished. We need to have a no shave novemebr for Facebook, maybe a no Facebook February and I guarantee millions would get off the addiction and vastly limit daily social media use.

Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by electic on Thursday December 14, 2017 @04:02PM (#15927009)
The greatest thing I did was delete Facebook off my phone. Here are the benefits I discovered:

- I didn't miss anything. Turns out there wasn't any real quality content on there anyway.

- My battery lasts 2x longer.

- I seem to be happier. No joke. With all the rage articles and click bait headlines gone, I am far more happier.

- I am way more informed now. I visit allsides.com and get the news there. I quickly get up to speed and find well written articles that inform me about what is really going on.

- I am more productive. Without all the garbage Facebook puts out, I have more time to get actual work done.

- I feel accomplished. I go home feeling more accomplished. I am happier, more productive, and more informed. It is a win-win-win all around.

Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by coltonv on Friday December 15, 2017 @01:46AM (#15930088)
Delete it off your phone, ASAP. There is literally nothing to gain from having the Facebook app on your phone. The app doesn't positively help you with the one thing Facebook is really useful for - event planning.

Every once in a while i like to see what events my friends have invited me to, so I log on to facebook on my browser, check my notifications, and leave. How do I prevent myself from getting sucked in by the news feed? I block it, with News Feed Eradicator, a Chrome extension. If someone posted a picture of you or tagged you in some way, you know, the things that in your news feed that are actually useful/concern you, you get a notification without any clutter to block it up.

It's lowered my stress level and I still get to stay in touch with the things I care about.

Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by rypskar on Friday December 15, 2017 @02:00AM (#15930135)
Don't see how this is a reason for others to delete the app from their phones, it only show that for you it was the right thing to do.

To come with another data-point, I have the app on my phone, but don't open it every week. I have turned off most notifications, so if I get a notification on the phone I know it is worth it to use 30 sec to check what it is. Instead I check FB a couple of times a day on a PC where I can set the feed to show most recent post first and in a minute or two go through the list of new post from peoples I keep in the feed. Some times it is something interesting there, some times not. For me it is strange how others manage to use hours at a time on FB (except messenger which I use to keep in touch with friends and family).

My point is that you cannot only blame FB for getting addicted, you is the only one that is responsible for how you spend your time. It is getting so "normal" to blame external forces for own behavior

Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by KozmoNau7 on Friday December 15, 2017 @05:13AM (#15930814)
There is a damn good incentive to uninstall the app. By going to mbasic.facebook.com in your browser instead, you use much less bandwidth and you get to use an adblocker (in Firefox, at least), to help weed out most of the nonsense FB throws at you.
Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by rypskar on Friday December 15, 2017 @05:29AM (#15930877)
I don't see how the 2MB of mobile data the FB app have used so far this month would be any less if I had used the mobile page instead. Going to the web-page is a much worse user experience when you mostly use the app to get notifications you have filtered out to actually get instead of using it to look at stuff you are not interested in.

You don't see all the stuff you don't want to see if you don't keep opening the app all the time. So back to it is how you use the application that is the problem, not the application.

Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by KozmoNau7 on Friday December 15, 2017 @06:46AM (#15931154)
By going there in a browser (and specifically to the mbasic version), you weed out the javascript tracking and bloat, and your adblocker gets to weed out the ads and sponsored content nonsense. As a bonus, there are no auto-playing videos or any of that other junk. That is the problem with using the app (and apps in general): They try very hard to prevent you from blocking ads and sponsored content.

That frees you up to use Facebook for its actual useful function: Handling events and possibly the most genuinely important updates from your friends, without the bloat.

The pared-down user experience in the mbasic version is the entire point. I already filter out everything I don't consider important, and using the mbasic version is another step in the direction of reducing distractions. It also doesn't do the weird re-arranging of discussions and broken infinite scroll that the app does.

It's simply a much easier and less annoying experience.

Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by nacho2sweet on Thursday December 14, 2017 @07:10PM (#15928641)
I as well deleted it off my phone. There is just nothing personal on it anymore. They are also ruining instagram. Too many ads, suggested posts etc. They are morphing it in facebook light. Everything is just bad auto roll food videos, UNILAD shit, and identity politics clickbait sob stories.

The only reason I still have facebook is for group chat messenger during the day, and to keep track of underground parties. One of those chats is moving to discord, and other kind of moved to iMessage. Messenger now has intrusive ads on it as well, I would leave it if I could.

Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by richardknop on Friday December 15, 2017 @12:44AM (#15929882)
For that all you need is messenger app on your phone and messenger.com on your computer. You don’t need Facebook main app or website.
Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by hobarrera on Friday December 15, 2017 @01:04AM (#15929935)
Actually, you can even have the Messenger app with no Facebook account. Just sign in with your phone number, and it'll pick up acquaintances from your contact book (much like WhatsApp). You can still search for other people, but don't need an FB account.
Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by richardknop on Friday December 15, 2017 @03:03AM (#15930329)
Signing up with phone number doesn't work for lots of young people I suspect. We don't have phone numbers of friends anymore, for example I have no phone numbers of even my closest friends, we have been communicating via internet since we have been teenagers (started with ICQ, then moved to emails then FB then whatsapp, never really needed to share our phone numbers as we don't ever call anybody nor send SMS).

This might be just specific to very international people like me who travel and work in many different countries so our phone numbers change often and keeping track of that is almost impossible.

Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by hobarrera on Friday December 15, 2017 @04:18PM (#15935238)
Huh, that's interesting.

I guess this also varies tremendously by region. WhatsApp completely dominates non-work communication in Argentina; we don't use SMS, nor phone calls, and FB is pretty much is second place.

AFAIK, in the US people actually use SMS a lot, and I'm sure it's a bit different everywhere else.

More on topic though; you can use Messenger without an FB account and still find people by username.

Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by Foivos on Saturday December 16, 2017 @07:49AM (#15939311)
How did you sign up in WhatsApp without a phone number? Also, when you want to exchange contacts in WhatsApp, what you do it to pass the phone number registered in the service.

It seems that you have phone number that is in some way associated with you.

Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by rypskar on Friday December 15, 2017 @02:01AM (#15930142)
Is giving FB your contact list better than having a FB account you don't use?
Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by tomduncalf on Friday December 15, 2017 @01:54AM (#15930120)
You can (for now at least!) access messages on mobile without an intrusive app by using mbasic.facebook.com.
Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by jrnichols on Thursday December 14, 2017 @08:55PM (#15929124)
same here. work is the biggest reason that I still have Facebook on my phone. We have work related stuff going on. i work with very non-technical users, and Facebook is about as complicated as things can get. They have a variety of devices, and Facebook + Messenger has worked on everything. Getting them to switch would be hard. :/
Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by scirocco on Friday December 15, 2017 @04:46AM (#15930701)
Underground parties?

I'd say www.residentadvisor.com does a better job!

Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by ct0 on Thursday December 14, 2017 @04:26PM (#15927217)
- Spend much more time on HackerNews.

Jokes aside, I did the same. Its a healthy move, I also forgot my FB password on my main computer and have not gone through the trouble of using chrome to look it up.

Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by cm2187 on Thursday December 14, 2017 @04:46PM (#15927404)
Did the same, same effect on time on HN!
Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by bischofs on Thursday December 14, 2017 @05:28PM (#15927804)
Ive found on my 16GB phone I can either have the facebook app or every other app that I want but not both at the same time . It takes up an insane amount of space for a mobile app and they for some reason need to update it once a week. Needless to say I use the browser now to check fb.
Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by cheeze on Friday December 15, 2017 @11:03PM (#15937538)
Nothing wrong with updating an app often IMO. There are dozens of teams working on the app concurrently (didn't they compain about the 65,535 class limit in objc due to their iPhone app?) so no surprise they have a regular release cadence.
Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by r3bl on Friday December 15, 2017 @02:27AM (#15930224)
Out of curiosity, why did you have it installed in the first place instead of just using your browser?
Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by bischofs on Saturday December 16, 2017 @12:37PM (#15940542)
It's a better user experience
Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by jimmies on Thursday December 14, 2017 @06:14PM (#15928213)
I am off Facebook for a year now.

I think life is a bit better not having facebook -- considered everything is already alright.

I think, however, if someone is depressed, being on Facebook is a huge problem. Which is ironically what I resorted to when I was depressed. It was like living in hell.

Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by Nition on Thursday December 14, 2017 @07:12PM (#15928659)
> allsides.com

Wow, I've been looking for something like this. Wish they did more than just the USA.

Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by raquo on Thursday December 14, 2017 @10:39PM (#15929518)
I don't know, the articles it links to aren't especially good judging by a few that I've checked just now.

They're mostly either partisan drivel, or bland statements of fact that don't explain why this news is good/bad/important.

The ability to do the latter in a neutral manner is what's valuable – to me, at least, – and I don't see it here.

Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by iagovar on Thursday December 14, 2017 @07:19PM (#15928701)
Yeah, I'd like something like this for Europe.
Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by marcusjt on Thursday December 14, 2017 @09:22PM (#15929241)
http://www.theweek.co.uk/ is the closest I know of, though you need to know the political leanings of each publication mentioned, whereas allsides.com really spells it out.
Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by mcescalante on Thursday December 14, 2017 @05:14PM (#15927677)
I have been leaving the FB app off my phone (Android) for 2-3 years now, and I don't miss it one bit. I was running Messenger, but that's also a resource hog.

I am now using Messenger Lite, as I am in some personal friend groups (muted) that I sometimes catch up on, and I will say that it hardly uses any resources at all. Would highly recommend it for anyone who still wants Messenger but without the bloat and battery loss.

Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by skeleton on Thursday December 14, 2017 @06:34PM (#15928385)
I share your experience. At the time I did a simple cost-benefit analysis.

It was costing me >0 resources (i.e. my time) and was having a net negative effect on me. I was just so irritated by the mind numbingly dumb things that I'd consume while browsing the news feed. Which unfortunately over time became close to 100% of the content on my feed.

Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by richardknop on Friday December 15, 2017 @03:00AM (#15930324)
Agreed. I have deleted Facebook app from my phone and it has been great since then. I feel like I waste less time scrolling through meaningless feed of pictures, posts and ads algorithmically crafted to be as addictive as possible.

I have also stopped using the main FB website. I only use messenger.com to talk to my friends but no need to go to the main website anymore.

The only reason why I haven't deleted my FB account completely yet is because I got a lot of pictures on FB and haven't found a convenient way to export them yet. So I might keep my FB account just as free cloud storage for my pictures, that's all.

Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by lode on Friday December 15, 2017 @03:50AM (#15930494)
> haven't found a convenient way to export them yet

Click the triangle on the right in the menu bar, and go to Settings. Under "General - General Account Settings" there's a light-grey link that takes you to "Download a copy of your Facebook data". From there you can request an archive of your profile.

It doesn't include all the 'shadow profile' info they keep of you, but it gives you and easy way to download all of your photos at once, easy to import in your photo management app.

EDIT: I've just done a fresh export of my profile, and it seems that sadly the photos don't get exported at full resolution, so this might not be the best option if FB is your primary photo storage at the moment.

Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by richardknop on Friday December 15, 2017 @04:01AM (#15930530)
I see. Not sure what I would use as alternative way of managing my photos though. I don't like using the Photos app on my MacBook as it is too clunky. I'd like to have a single website which is just like the photo albums part of FB minus the whole social network. That would be ideal.
Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by mratzloff on Friday December 15, 2017 @05:14AM (#15930816)
I was off Facebook for years, but a few years ago I got back on it. It's just junk food for the brain.

Before I deleted the app on my phone recently, I scrolled through my feed for about 5-10 minutes with a simple test: if I encountered something that genuinely improved my life, I'd keep it installed. I didn't. I can (and do) get my news and politics elsewhere, the comic strips I follow I'll figure out another solution for, and if I want to see photos I can log in through the website whenever the urge hits me.

Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by jessriedel on Thursday December 14, 2017 @07:36PM (#15928793)
Anyone know how to block a particular website like FB on Android without being rooted or signing up for a subscription to some security or parental-control app? A google search just turns up a million people recommending editing the host file with ES File Explorer (which doesn't work unless you're rooted) or using the TrendMicro Mobile Security app (which requires a subscription).

Why in the hell is this so hard?

Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by propogandist on Thursday December 14, 2017 @10:49PM (#15929555)
NetGuard, it's from the same developer who created Xprivacy

install it from the Github repo and you can use it load a custom host file (the playstore version doesn't allow this) it functions as a VPN. Free service that also lets you block trackers and individual app analytics

https://github.com/M66B/NetGuard

Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by Groxx on Thursday December 14, 2017 @07:57PM (#15928888)
There are some site-blocking hosted-on-the-device VPNs on Android. I haven't found any I'd be comfortable recommending though - gotta find an open source one I can reasonably audit and isn't terrible :|
Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by jessriedel on Friday December 15, 2017 @09:08PM (#15936983)
This is definitely not a request to do a free audit on my behalf, but one of the other commenters recommended this, which I guess is open source:

https://github.com/M66B/NetGuard

Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by dingo_bat on Thursday December 14, 2017 @10:48PM (#15929548)
If you have a Samsung phone you can use some apps that run as part of the Knox framework and block ads or arbitrary websites system-wide without rooting.
Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by throwthis153 on Thursday December 14, 2017 @07:40PM (#15928809)
I think if use Firefox you can get a variant of the StayFocusd extension.
Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by shifte on Thursday December 14, 2017 @07:45PM (#15928831)
If you don't want the overhead of another extension, a quick win is to add this to your `/etc/hosts`:

    127.0.0.1	facebook.com
    127.0.0.1	www.facebook.com

After a week you'll completely forget you have facebook.
Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by drhodes on Thursday December 14, 2017 @09:40PM (#15929302)
BTW, there is a github repo that lists every domain owned by facebook, they have ~900 domains now.

https://github.com/jmdugan/blocklists/blob/master/corporatio...

Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by jessriedel on Friday December 15, 2017 @09:05PM (#15936966)
Yes, I mentioned this one in my comment ("editing the host file with ES File Explorer"), but it requires your phone to be rooted.
Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by gt_ on Thursday December 14, 2017 @07:43PM (#15928823)
Same experience here with Facebook. This is a little off-topic, but, given the common ground, I visited Allsides.com and it was an interesting experience. I expected to like it, but it felt more like being a 3rd wheel watching a couple argue while both of them made the problem worse. Sigh.
Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by electic on Thursday December 14, 2017 @08:02PM (#15928914)
Agree, you are kind of watching from the outside inside. I end up mostly focusing on center stories. But being on the site, it really hits you just how bad the media has become. No one, it seems, listed to John Stewart when he appeared on Crossfire. Instead, the morphed the whole network into Crossfire. [1]

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFQFB5YpDZE

Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by sAbakumoff on Friday December 15, 2017 @05:29AM (#15930878)
I almost regret that I never used FB for any significant amount time and can't experience the same after giving it up :-)
Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by cyberpunk0 on Friday December 15, 2017 @12:45AM (#15929888)
Want to feel better? Delete your account
Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by rtpg on Friday December 15, 2017 @04:33AM (#15930647)
Same boat. Also got rid of Twitter app.

Now just to block HN most hours of the day...

Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by kayoone on Friday December 15, 2017 @01:45AM (#15930087)
i deleted the app but always had issues with Facebook Login in some apps which was annoying, so i reinstalled it.
Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by toddmorey on Thursday December 14, 2017 @03:40PM (#15926781)
Leaving Facebook has honestly made me a happier guy. (I left my account active, but I've removed the apps from my phone and I only visit the site about once every three months to message someone my phone number.)

Browsing the site always made me a bit angry (at the politics) and a bit sad (because someone else always seems to be on some impressive vacation). Then I'd close the browser be angry at myself for wasting time I could have invested in learning something or creating something.

My #1 fear was that I'd feel out of the loop, but I honestly don't. I've yet to have anyone mention something with a "didn't you see that on Facebook?" A friend of mine tried the same experiment and says he's also happier. If you catch yourself left with a bit of pensive sadness after using the site, try taking a hiatus and see how it feels.

Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by throwaway613834 on Thursday December 14, 2017 @03:57PM (#15926961)
> I've yet to have anyone mention something with a "didn't you see that on Facebook?"

Any chance this is because you don't know what you've missed, and hence you don't talk to people about them?

Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by adjkant on Thursday December 14, 2017 @04:13PM (#15927103)
Anecdotal, but the only time I've ever hear that phrase in the past 3 years is for my college meme group (one of the few reasons I am still on Facebook). As far as I know, nothing happens on Facebook for anyone under 25. As you get older, life event announcements are about the only thing I can imagine would be useful.
Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by eropple on Thursday December 14, 2017 @04:23PM (#15927203)
Maybe it's just my friend group, but absolutely everything is scheduled and planned through Facebook events. I basically don't visit, I use Social Fixer to trim down the news feed when I do, but Events is invaluable.
Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by adjkant on Thursday December 14, 2017 @04:46PM (#15927406)
Yeah, I think it's just a matter of social circles. For me, events exist on Facebook, but plenty of people get invited off of Facebook, and the events are private so there's no discovery aspect you'd get in your news feed. I get told in person about most parties or events before seeing an invite on Facebook.

I do like and use events on Facebook, but I wish it was any other service at this point. It's all about the network effect though, it doesn't matter how many better options there are if no one has an account there.

Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by _delirium on Thursday December 14, 2017 @07:52PM (#15928869)
It's used a surprising amount for academic discussion in my field, especially more informal stuff like which conferences to submit to or follow-ups to recent controversies. Basically the discussions that 10 years ago would've happened on a mailing list, or in the comments on a prominent person's blog. Some of that also happens on Twitter, but a somewhat different subset of discussions go there.
Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by kelnos on Thursday December 14, 2017 @05:31PM (#15927831)
Does it matter? If he's still keeping in touch with the friends & family that he truly cares about, then anything he "misses" probably wasn't important enough for those people to mention to him in person / text / chat / on the phone / whatever.

And if it wasn't important enough to mention, why care about it?

Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by djsumdog on Thursday December 14, 2017 @05:17PM (#15927697)
I never read status updates as I only use messenger/messenger.com. I'd like to ditch that too, but I have a lot of friends who I only have in messenger and who literally live on the other side of the planet. I suppose I should just make international txts instead.
Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by amelius on Friday December 15, 2017 @06:16AM (#15931034)
I sympathize, but there are two problems:

1. Events. For discovering events, there really is no good substitute to seeing where other people are going. I often get good event suggestions from Facebook through distant friends who would never invite me in real life.

2. Groups. For discussing stuff related to hobbies, people often use Facebook groups. E.g. a painting class, where people post their work, and post things like "let's visit this gallery tomorrow morning" or "there's a masterclass this weekend, who joins?".

Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by heedlessly2 on Thursday December 14, 2017 @03:46PM (#15926853)
Facebook has lost ground for genuine social interaction. Facebook is more serious stuff such as life announcements for new job, grad/college acceptance, engagement to their significant other, uploading a vacation photo as their profile pic in Grand Canyon as a DSLR, etc.. Everything feels so "official" and "serious"

Snapchat is low-stakes and more playful for throw-away stuff in people's day-to-day life.

Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by richardknop on Friday December 15, 2017 @12:46AM (#15929893)
None of my extended friends around the world (late twenties so we are not that old) nor my family use Snapchat. So in my opinion Snapchat is so niche and has such narrow group of users it will never replace what Facebook used to be.
Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by dannyw on Friday December 15, 2017 @12:58AM (#15929922)
People grow in age. The audience that is using Snapchat now (I talk to a dozen friends on Snapchat) are going to keep using Snapchat (I haven’t seen any age based dropoff), and younger people start using Snapchat.

I don’t even have some fairly close friends on FB!

Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by richardknop on Friday December 15, 2017 @03:06AM (#15930335)
Sure but I doubt it. For example after initial students on college campuses who started using Facebook, it has spread to older generations and people in 30s, 40s even 50s now use Facebook.

With Snapchat I don't see such trend. It has no website, only a confusing mobile app with horrid UX that most people can't figure out and is mostly used for adding pig noses and cat ears to pictures by teenagers.

Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by heedlessly2 on Friday December 15, 2017 @09:31AM (#15932032)
if Snapchat had a website, then users could screenshot photos/conversations without notifying the other person. That's exactly why they don't have one.
Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by heedlessly2 on Friday December 15, 2017 @09:25AM (#15931978)
i don't think its a bad thing that Snapchat will replace Facebook. People don't want an imitator.

The whole point of Facebook is to "record personal history".

The whole point of Snapchat is to maintain "privacy". It fills a void that Facebook was never meant to do nor intends.

Before someone says "you can still screenshot" on Snapchat. While that is true, the platform strongly discourages it and millions of users do not screenshot for every single photo. Whereas FB, is default "save"

The way a platform facilitates interaction is very important.

Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by richardknop on Friday December 15, 2017 @10:48AM (#15932586)
I think people want to keep personal history in most cases. Like all normal conversations with friends or family, you would want to keep history of it so you can go look up things in the future.

Sending pictures that disappear and are not recorded is a valid use case but it's a very narrow one in my opinion. It might be useful for dating or "flirting" conversations so maybe 10% of human interaction.

Therefor I think the way Snapchat works it will never become mainstream like Facebook did because it doesn't work well for normal interaction between friends & family which is 90% of most peoples' social interaction.

Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by heedlessly2 on Friday December 15, 2017 @01:54PM (#15934097)
>Snapchat works it will never become mainstream like Facebook

Snapchat is already mainstream, it has 178 million daily active users. Tons of celebrities use it too. It's not some unknown app. Facebook is still more popular by a large margin. However, that doesn't deny Snapchat being labeled "mainstream".

>I think people want to keep personal history in most cases. Like all normal conversations with friends or family, you would want to keep history of it so you can go look up things in the future.

Again, Facebook and Snapchat are two different apps. Snapchat was never meant to become a Facebook copy-cat. They both fulfill two different purposes.

Your comment is similar to watching a horror film and complaining that it wasn't a comedy film and explaining how horror films do poorly compared to comedies. They are not mutually exclusive.

Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by jressey on Thursday December 14, 2017 @03:33PM (#15926716)
I think you just coined the phrase. Let's take a page from the alt-right playbook and meme "No Facebook February" in to existence.
Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by hbhakhra on Thursday December 14, 2017 @03:54PM (#15926929)
Facebook Free February
Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by RileyJames on Thursday December 14, 2017 @08:41PM (#15929079)
Looks like it already exists: http://facebookfreefebruary.org/
Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by RpFLCL on Thursday December 14, 2017 @03:39PM (#15926775)
Taking a break could be a new years resolution :)
Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by justhw on Thursday December 14, 2017 @05:01PM (#15927561)
I'm in. Let's make it happen.
Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by randomsearch on Thursday December 14, 2017 @05:56PM (#15928067)
Ironically, the best way to promote this would be with a viral Facebook status that says “this will be my last post until March, let’s see if I can make it! I challenge Mark, Sarah, Sam to do the same” etc.

I’m amazed at how easily people obey the challenge memes. I’m guessing a lot of them are instigated by Facebook to increase engagement.

Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by southphillyman on Thursday December 14, 2017 @03:50PM (#15926889)
Private groups. My user experience was similar to yours and I was close to deactivating my account before I got invited into a private group. Topics and discussions get much more interesting when people know coworkers and family members can't see it.
Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by mantas on Thursday December 14, 2017 @03:54PM (#15926936)
So like old good forums? Preferably with anonymous handler. So your coworker or family may be on the same forum, but wouldn't ever know that.
Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by photonios on Thursday December 14, 2017 @03:52PM (#15926917)
I second this. I live in in a foreign country and there's a Facebook group with people from my home country who also live here. It's a small group with (50 people or so) and I really enjoy the friendly discussions and the fact that people try to help each other out. I keep my account for groups like those.
Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by surrey-fringe on Thursday December 14, 2017 @06:30PM (#15928343)
Ever since deleting facebook I've felt so much ___. It's only once I quit the site I was able to take a long hard look at my perception of ____ and realized that everyone else does ____ while I should do _____. I realized that I'm actually ____, not ____. I started handling my _____ relationships in a healthier, more ____ manner.
Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by techiferous on Thursday December 14, 2017 @04:35PM (#15927302)
Just delete your account and don't look back. I did years ago and have no regrets. It's junk food.
Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by username223 on Thursday December 14, 2017 @04:50PM (#15927437)
I've been happy with a middle ground lately:

* Do not install it on my phone. My long, complex password isn't even stored there, so I couldn't log in if I wanted.

* Open https://mbasic.facebook.com/ in a private tab on my computer when I want to post something or check in, then close it when I'm done. This greatly reduces tracking surface (no JS), and provides just enough friction to eliminate compulsive checking or interaction.

It's like not buying a giant bag of potato chips every time you go to the store.

Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by yoz-y on Friday December 15, 2017 @04:56AM (#15930741)
Messenger is fine and useful, I have deleted the app and all my likes and stuff from my account though.
Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by notjustanymike on Thursday December 14, 2017 @03:41PM (#15926792)
Nuked it when I got my new phone, shocking how little I miss it.
Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by andrei_says_ on Thursday December 14, 2017 @05:20PM (#15927738)
Facebook messaging works in the browser at https://mbasic.facebook.com

Useful for emergencies to non-daily users like me.

Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by tanderson92 on Thursday December 14, 2017 @06:23PM (#15928287)
There is also messenger.com
Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by ndr on Friday December 15, 2017 @04:43AM (#15930690)
Unfortunately that doesn't seem to work on mobile.
Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by TheRealPomax on Friday December 15, 2017 @04:20AM (#15930593)
What do you _do_ on facebook, thought? All I see on it are people saying what they just did or how they feel, that's something that has zero importance in living your daily life and trivially deferred to "check it maybe once a day".
Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by ranie93 on Thursday December 14, 2017 @03:48PM (#15926869)
I'm not sure if I understood correctly but; you can keep using messenger (and maybe Tinder, I haven't tested) even after you deactivate your fb account. Just leave the last checkbox unchecked on the account deactivation page.
Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by JoshMnem on Thursday December 14, 2017 @06:59PM (#15928572)
> yet I waste so much time on it every day

I recommend deleting your account. Facebook wants people to think that everything happens on Facebook, but really almost nothing happens on Facebook. It's basically a useless recreational drug that is wasting the lives of many people (and severely damaging human civilization with its reality distortion -- time will tell us the full effects).

Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by a3n on Friday December 15, 2017 @01:36AM (#15930042)
It's TV.
Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by JoshMnem on Friday December 15, 2017 @11:27PM (#15937670)
Much worse than TV though.
Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by tomduncalf on Friday December 15, 2017 @01:51AM (#15930103)
I’ve said this before on here, but bears repeating as I don’t know that everyone realises you can do it - a great way to wean yourself off the Facebook checking addiction is to unfollow all your contacts and pages. Once you do this, your homepage is basically blank (no news feed), but you still retain the ability to use the messenger, which unfortunately is still socially quite useful from time to time despite having a horrible UX. You also maintain the ability to access pages as usual (FB aggressively tries to push you to register if you view them logged out) and get notifications if people tag you.

I’d really recommend trying it if you have the same feeling of wasting time as the OP - it’s a bit less drastic than removing your account, but it does the job. I thought I might refollow certain people after a while but six months later I haven’t bothered and I now only check the site once a day for messages usually.

You can either do the process of unfollowing manually, or using JavaScript - there is a settings page where you can list all your contacts (by pressing load more a lot) then automate clicking “unfollow”. I can try to find the script I used if you are interested. Sounds like another option is to use a browser extension.

Another piece of advice that others have mentioned is to delete the app - if you want access messages, you can use mbasic.facebook.com. It really sucks that they removed messaging from the mobile site to push users to their sucky apps.

I’ve got respect for people just deleting their account but for me messenger still has enough social use that this is a perfect compromise for now!

Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by empath75 on Thursday December 14, 2017 @03:40PM (#15926788)
I deleted the facebook app 2 months ago and since then I've looked at the site like twice. Don't miss it in the slightest.
Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by xirdstl on Thursday December 14, 2017 @07:13PM (#15928663)
I was off Facebook for awhile but rejoined this past year. I primarily use it to follow some organizations that post updates I'm interested in.

If a "friend" posts something political or something that annoys me, I just Unfollow them. That means I've unfollowed most of my friends, but I have no interest in partaking in the outrage.

Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by vm on Thursday December 14, 2017 @05:05PM (#15927601)
How often do you use Instagram, Snap, iMessage/SMS, WhatsApp, Messenger, or other social apps? Curious whether you get that "fix" elsewhere or if it yes/no for just FB.

Thinking about it more, all media should be in the running, from HN to Netflix, because it's really about time spent.

Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by astronautjones on Thursday December 14, 2017 @05:33PM (#15927847)
whatsapp, messenger, and sms/imessage are kind of a different ballgame, though, as there's no algorithm dictating what you see and when
Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by mrweasel on Friday December 15, 2017 @03:41AM (#15930465)
> No one posts anything on it

I've been seeing the same thing, almost everything is links, clickbait or "tests" that everyone just re-shares. Very few people are posting any original content any more.

Currently I think Messenger is what's keeping people from abandoning Facebook.

Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by TheNewKanye on Thursday December 14, 2017 @03:32PM (#15926709)
You actually only need a phone number for Tinder, making facebook even more useless.
Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by Spooky23 on Thursday December 14, 2017 @08:16PM (#15928976)
My computers have the Facebook domains blocked in their hostfiles.

Best decision I’ve made. Just make sure not to logout or Facebook will hammer your email to entice you back in.

Re:Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long ... by justboxing on Thursday December 14, 2017 @04:57PM (#15927515)
> The news on there is trash

Since when did Facebook become a news outlet? Oh wait...