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Re:Visualizing Realtime Bitcoin Transactions in ReactVR by jimrandomh on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @12:20PM (#15915651)
Note that the transaction sizes, in most cases, do not represent amounts of money moving between parties. The reason for this is because of how Bitcoin transactions are structured. Suppose you have 5.0BTC at an address, and you want to send 0.1BTC to someone else. The transaction that gets recorded to the blockchain has an input of 5.0BTC, an output of 0.1BTC going to the recipient, and an output of 4.9BTC going to a "change address" which is also yours. But if you don't know anything about the addresses then there's no way to tell, by looking at the blockchain, which address is the recipient and which is the change.

(Also, the very biggest transactions represent exchanges and other deposit-holding institutions moving coins from new deposits to cold storage and from cold storage to their hot wallets to service withdrawals.)

Re:Visualizing Realtime Bitcoin Transactions in ReactVR by g09980 on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @12:32PM (#15915738)
Did not know this. Is there a technical reason it works like this? In Ethereum, for example, if you're sending 0.1 ETH, you will just send that amount (no change address).
Re:Visualizing Realtime Bitcoin Transactions in ReactVR by jimrandomh on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @09:30PM (#15919519)
It gives better anonymity that way. If unspent change went back to the same address, people would be more inclined to reuse the same address over time, which makes it easier for someone looking at the blockchain to identify who's paying who.
Re:Visualizing Realtime Bitcoin Transactions in ReactVR by masonicb00m on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @01:55PM (#15916485)
This design makes it simple to prevent double spending. You just check that the transaction inputs are in the set of unspent transactions (UTXOs).
Re:Visualizing Realtime Bitcoin Transactions in ReactVR by oscilloscope on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @05:02AM (#15913264)
Another classic, BitListen: http://www.bitlisten.com/
Re:Visualizing Realtime Bitcoin Transactions in ReactVR by almostdigital on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @06:43AM (#15913627)
Re:Visualizing Realtime Bitcoin Transactions in ReactVR by SuddsMcDuff on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @09:29AM (#15914389)
Re:Visualizing Realtime Bitcoin Transactions in ReactVR by toss1 on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @03:58PM (#15917601)
Re:Visualizing Realtime Bitcoin Transactions in ReactVR by germainelol on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @04:38AM (#15913147)
Am I the only one that just sat there seeing BTC transactions of $1m+ and thinking "Damn, who's that guy?"
Re:Visualizing Realtime Bitcoin Transactions in ReactVR by opportune on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @05:14AM (#15913304)
I noticed that and I have absolutely no idea how there are so many huge transactions. The peak of the drugs-from-the-internet era looked like child's play compared to this. The only rational explanations I can think of are either money laundering, institutional investors, or very wealthy people buying bitcoin as an insurance strategy.

I do feel bad for the people who are buying into the "digital gold" narrative at this point in time. I hope none of these big buyers are just regular joe's with sub-7-figure net worths who are just being irresponsible with their money due to the "hype"

Re:Visualizing Realtime Bitcoin Transactions in ReactVR by Cthulhu_ on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @07:14AM (#15913721)
The BTC market cap is nearly worth $300 billion, naturally there will be "large" transactions like that in something that big. Just Coinbase moving something to / from their cold storage is probably worth tens of millions in USD. And of course there's a lot of rich people and businesses that make larger transactions.

A million doesn't feel like that much money anymore for billionaires. That's like spending $1 if you've got $100 in your wallet.

Re:Visualizing Realtime Bitcoin Transactions in ReactVR by jackpeterfletch on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @11:31AM (#15915249)
Theoretical market cap.

Its estimated that at least 40% of the coins are lost.

Re:Visualizing Realtime Bitcoin Transactions in ReactVR by ejolto on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @07:40AM (#15913840)
> That's like spending $1 if you've got $100 in your wallet.

You are off by an order of magnitude.

Re:Visualizing Realtime Bitcoin Transactions in ReactVR by opportune on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @07:46AM (#15913862)
Yep it's $1 to $1000

Furthermore I highly doubt that it's mostly billionaires with >$1m USD holdings of BTC. There simply aren't enough to sustain this level of transactions.

Re:Visualizing Realtime Bitcoin Transactions in ReactVR by losteric on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @10:33AM (#15914828)
Why, exactly, is everyone purchasing crypto-"currencies"? I abandoned bitcoin over 5 years ago because it was just blackmarket barter... now the Chinese use it to bypass state regulations while Russian ransomware holds computers hostage for bitcoin.

What is the volume of legal purchases versus speculative and blackmarket transactions? Why do people have any confidence in these digital assets?

Re:Visualizing Realtime Bitcoin Transactions in ReactVR by ChristianGeek on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @01:06PM (#15916041)
To start (to answer your first question), if you’d held on to the bitcoins you had 5 years ago, they’d have increased in value well over a thousand-fold. So definitely speculation.
Re:Visualizing Realtime Bitcoin Transactions in ReactVR by losteric on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @02:04PM (#15916575)
I think bitcoin's value really boils down to being a quasi-legal forex medium - bypassing international sanctions and state regulations.

That is a reasonable argument to hold coins if the expectation is increased adoption. However, when sales are restricted for illegally bypassing sanctions (eg US) or enabling capital flight (eg China), we will see the market fall to near-zero because bitcoin is not a currency.

Re:Visualizing Realtime Bitcoin Transactions in ReactVR by rmwaite on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @09:22PM (#15919487)
What is a currency?
Re:Visualizing Realtime Bitcoin Transactions in ReactVR by losteric on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @11:16PM (#15919897)
A universally recognized asset for exchanging goods and services within a nation. For example, everything for sale in America can be purchased with dollars. That is a key distinction - currencies have strength because they are nationally recognized.

If every nation banned trading Australian dollars, they would still hold value in Australia... and there are millions of people working to ensure AUD continues to hold value and confidence outside of Australia.

If every nation banned trading bitcoin, they would be worthless... in fact, they would be worthless if only a couple key nations banned the coins.

Re:Visualizing Realtime Bitcoin Transactions in ReactVR by rmwaite on Thursday December 14, 2017 @09:02PM (#15929155)
Let's do a thought experiment. What do you think would have happened if the US government had decided against the financial bailouts in 2008? Do you think the value of the USD would have a) increased or b) decreased. Bonus points if you can tell me why this is relevant to your points.
Re:Visualizing Realtime Bitcoin Transactions in ReactVR by lambda on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @06:38AM (#15913609)
Why would you think it was a single person?

Many of the large transactions are likely payment processors moving bitcoins into and out of exchanges, not any individual. Or mining rig operators cashing out to finance their power bills (and I'm talking the big mining operations, not someone's one or two miners in their apartment).

Re:Visualizing Realtime Bitcoin Transactions in ReactVR by ohnoesmyscv on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @12:13PM (#15915580)
Sometimes it’s just exchanges moving their assets around
Re:Visualizing Realtime Bitcoin Transactions in ReactVR by onggunhao on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @01:40AM (#15912490)
Hi! Robin and I built this as a side project to learn ReactVR and Redux. Bitcoin-VR uses pure client-side javascript to visualize Bitcoin transactions in Virtual Reality.

Please wait for some time for it to download as the assets are quite large!

The code is open source, and free for anyone to fork. We're also really new to web development, so we welcome all criticism and avenues where we can improve!

Re:Visualizing Realtime Bitcoin Transactions in ReactVR by danboarder on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @05:31AM (#15913374)
Nice! Is it easy in ReactVR to add a button for Google Cardboard 3D viewing on smartphones? I've played with Mozilla A-Frame and it provides this, curious if ReactVR does as well.
Re:Visualizing Realtime Bitcoin Transactions in ReactVR by FLGMwt on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @10:41AM (#15914894)
Yup! It shows up by default, IIRC.

It's a layer on top of WebVR, similar to A-Frame.

Re:Visualizing Realtime Bitcoin Transactions in ReactVR by gt_ on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @03:51AM (#15912975)
I like the metaphor of BTC investments as just floating the quantity into the atmosphere via hot air balloon.
Re:Visualizing Realtime Bitcoin Transactions in ReactVR by masonicb00m on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @01:57PM (#15916505)
This visualization is broken. I can’t see the moon.
Re:Visualizing Realtime Bitcoin Transactions in ReactVR by _red on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @07:50AM (#15913877)
Its says balloons<1BTC and blimps>1BTC....however that appears wrong, looks like it should be 100BTC as conditional.
Re:Visualizing Realtime Bitcoin Transactions in ReactVR by onggunhao on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @08:13AM (#15913981)
Oops!! Fixed it! Thanks for pointing it out to us

https://github.com/bitcoin-vr/bitcoin-vr/pull/84

PS: We set the param of 1 BTC when we built the first version a few weeks ago. Then came the massive surge in transactions and prices... we had to change the info panels to accomodate a lot more digits (esp for the USD price). Kinda crazy how the parameters changed within such a short period of time

Re:Visualizing Realtime Bitcoin Transactions in ReactVR by sschueller on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @04:56AM (#15913231)
Nice, but I think fish would be more appropriate :) (Yes, I know a whale is not a fish)
Re:Visualizing Realtime Bitcoin Transactions in ReactVR by Diggsey on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @09:44AM (#15914486)
Actually, you can call whales fish (it's not like there's a common ancestor of all fish of which whales aren't a descendent) they just also happen to be mammals.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Such_Thing_as_a_Fish

Re:Visualizing Realtime Bitcoin Transactions in ReactVR by nicoleczhu on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @06:41AM (#15913619)
Would be interesting to see some more data viz on the blimps. Are these individuals or funds - very curious
Re:Visualizing Realtime Bitcoin Transactions in ReactVR by no-such-address on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @11:04AM (#15915066)
Visualizing: You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means. VIS guy
Re:Visualizing Realtime Bitcoin Transactions in ReactVR by dang on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @01:58PM (#15916526)
Please don't post unsubstantive dismissals to HN. If you know more, please teach us by adding relevant information. If you don't want to do that, that's fine, but then it's better not to post.

Either way, please drop the swipes, and for bonus points we can leave out the internet clichés as well.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re:Visualizing Realtime Bitcoin Transactions in ReactVR by paulgb on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @11:13AM (#15915122)
I think it means communicating data visually, which this does. What do you think it means?
Re:Visualizing Realtime Bitcoin Transactions in ReactVR by bengotow on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @12:26PM (#15915695)
Maybe you thought it'd be an infographic? This is totally a valid visualization as far as I'm concerned. It packages and communicates data visually that would otherwise be difficult to see. It doesn't abstract up from the data with summary graphics, but it uses a time axis to give you a deeper understanding of the nature of the data. It even uses balloons, which I think may be the author suggesting a "bubble". So look, it even communicates a message.

[Disclaimer: not a VIS guy]

Re:Visualizing Realtime Bitcoin Transactions in ReactVR by ChristianGeek on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @01:01PM (#15916004)
This is a textbook (dictionary) example of visualization.
Re:Visualizing Realtime Bitcoin Transactions in ReactVR by no-such-address on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @03:25PM (#15917356)
Your criticisms of my comment are fair, but you are also defending an animation of hot air balloon that somehow describe attributes of cryptocurrency transactions.

There's nothing wrong about making visualizations that look interesting and appealing, but do the most salient features of this display actually encode the data? Or was it designed mostly to convey a subjective view about Bitcoin?

Didn't Tufte call designs like this building a "Duck"? https://www.edwardtufte.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=...

Re:Visualizing Realtime Bitcoin Transactions in ReactVR by sAbakumoff on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @03:59AM (#15913008)
>>Designed for Chrome or Safari.

I am pretty adamant that these days you gotta design for Edge as well.

Re:Visualizing Realtime Bitcoin Transactions in ReactVR by oneeyedpigeon on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @04:37AM (#15913144)
Surely not for experimental demonstrations of new tech such as this. Maybe if the creator wanted to monetise or present to the widest audience, sure, but this is aimed at a sector that is 99% going to have access to Chrome or Safari.
Re:Visualizing Realtime Bitcoin Transactions in ReactVR by muxator on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @05:52AM (#15913442)
Never wanted a Mac. Google is too much invasive of my privacy. I simply like Firefox. Does this make me less technologically literate?
Re:Visualizing Realtime Bitcoin Transactions in ReactVR by oneeyedpigeon on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @06:38AM (#15913611)
No, it makes you less prepared for cross-browser development/testing, but that might totally be a non-issue depending on your line of work. Do you not even trust Google enough to run Chrome in incognito mode once in a blue moon?
Re:Visualizing Realtime Bitcoin Transactions in ReactVR by joosters on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @11:35AM (#15915287)
Even if I start Chrome in incognito mode, it still contacts google analytics on startup.
Re:Visualizing Realtime Bitcoin Transactions in ReactVR by sAbakumoff on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @04:42AM (#15913165)
where did you get this insane number? There are plenty of people who use and like windows 10 and its wonderful browser which has nothing to do with IE!
Re:Visualizing Realtime Bitcoin Transactions in ReactVR by oneeyedpigeon on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @05:26AM (#15913359)
Hardcore web developers that don't have access to either Chrome or Safari? 99% was obviously a pulled-out-of-thin-air figure, but it's surely the vast, vast majority.
Re:Visualizing Realtime Bitcoin Transactions in ReactVR by sAbakumoff on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @06:52AM (#15913654)
what it has to do with web-developers? The thing the guy cobbled together is for crypto coin and VR which is now available to everyone.
Re:Visualizing Realtime Bitcoin Transactions in ReactVR by wuliwong on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @02:40PM (#15916905)
The developer is showing off an experiment he made using a bleeding edge web development framework. It has loads to do with web developers.
Re:Visualizing Realtime Bitcoin Transactions in ReactVR by afraca on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @04:36AM (#15913143)
I'm no frontend developer, so I'm unsure what technology actually is used by ReactVR, but according to [0] only Edge and Firefox support th e WebVR API, that was funny to find out. It worked on Firefox.

[0] https://caniuse.com/#feat=webvr

Re:Visualizing Realtime Bitcoin Transactions in ReactVR by wuliwong on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @02:50PM (#15917006)
I actually found this super confusing. I opened up the app on chrome on os-x and I could move the view around, nothing seemed broken. I don't have a VR headset attached to my mac so maybe that's where the problems arise?

It seems most of these browsers support webvr with their proprietary hardware, whether it be google daydream/cardboard or edge only supporting windows mixed reality headsets.

It will be interesting to see where this goes moving forward.

Re:Visualizing Realtime Bitcoin Transactions in ReactVR by sAbakumoff on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @04:42AM (#15913170)
LOL, this is what I am talking about!
Re:Visualizing Realtime Bitcoin Transactions in ReactVR by knocte on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @04:03AM (#15913027)
And Firefox! And Opera! And Brave!
Re:Visualizing Realtime Bitcoin Transactions in ReactVR by sAbakumoff on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @04:10AM (#15913053)
This is not funny.
Re:Visualizing Realtime Bitcoin Transactions in ReactVR by oneeyedpigeon on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @05:31AM (#15913373)
Firefox has about 4 times the market share that Edge does. If your argument is solely about market share, the Firefox version should be supported first and categorising this person's comment as a 'joke' is unfair.
Re:Visualizing Realtime Bitcoin Transactions in ReactVR by sAbakumoff on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @06:50AM (#15913648)
This person also mentioned Opera which makes the whole comment a bad joke!
Re:Visualizing Realtime Bitcoin Transactions in ReactVR by pjc50 on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @09:38AM (#15914448)
But Edge is terrible.

Edit: ugly font rendering (common to a lot of Metro desktop apps?), failure to save tabs state on exit (dealbreaker)

Re:Visualizing Realtime Bitcoin Transactions in ReactVR by sAbakumoff on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @09:53AM (#15914546)
IE is terrible, Edge is amazing!
Re:Visualizing Realtime Bitcoin Transactions in ReactVR by wafflesraccoon on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @10:01AM (#15914604)
Genuine question, why use Edge over Chrome/Firefox?
Re:Visualizing Realtime Bitcoin Transactions in ReactVR by sAbakumoff on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @10:43AM (#15914916)
Google's own performance benchmark shows that Microsoft Edge is faster than Chrome and Firefox.[0]

[0] https://mybrowser.microsoft.com/en-US/features/performance

Re:Visualizing Realtime Bitcoin Transactions in ReactVR by sAbakumoff on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @10:44AM (#15914920)
Not only is Microsoft Edge faster, it's better for your battery life!
Re:Visualizing Realtime Bitcoin Transactions in ReactVR by megaman22 on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @05:36AM (#15913390)
Lol, why? Nobody uses Edge unless that's the only thing allowed.
Re:Visualizing Realtime Bitcoin Transactions in ReactVR by baud147258 on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @08:17AM (#15913999)
I am reading this page on edge. I have also chrome on this computer and I have admin right so I could install Firefox too.
Re:Visualizing Realtime Bitcoin Transactions in ReactVR by overcast on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @12:45PM (#15915858)
Firefox doesn't require admin rights to install fyi. It will install to your user environment, and not the system just fine.
Re:Visualizing Realtime Bitcoin Transactions in ReactVR by fermuch on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @05:55AM (#15913452)
A lot of people use it because it's what comes installed.
Re:Visualizing Realtime Bitcoin Transactions in ReactVR by sAbakumoff on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @06:49AM (#15913643)
I think, you probably confuse Edge with IE. The latter is what you said, the former is the modern beautiful and powerful browser
Re:Visualizing Realtime Bitcoin Transactions in ReactVR by blinger on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @09:23AM (#15914354)
more people use IE than Edge
Re:Visualizing Realtime Bitcoin Transactions in ReactVR by sAbakumoff on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @09:52AM (#15914544)
the source?
Re:Visualizing Realtime Bitcoin Transactions in ReactVR by TheDong on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @10:29AM (#15914797)
Arguably the best browser-stats group is http://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share

According to that, for the last month Edge is 2.06% and IE is 3.88%. Edge has never had more users than IE according to their numbers.

Edge has lower market share than any other browser apart from the defunct "Android" one (which was replaced by something claiming to be chrome years ago iirc, so of all the actively maintained browsers recognized by that survey, Edge has by far the fewest users).

If you have information to the contrary, please post it