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Re:Apple CEO backs China’s ‘open’ Internet vision as censors... by wybiral on Monday December 04, 2017 @11:08PM (#15849645)
Re:Apple CEO backs China’s ‘open’ Internet vision as censors... by longcheng on Monday December 04, 2017 @11:18PM (#15849688)
so, facts are hurting you, right?
Re:Apple CEO backs China’s ‘open’ Internet vision as censors... by dang on Tuesday December 05, 2017 @01:16AM (#15850129)
On HN, it's necessary not to use the site primarily for political or national battle, and not ok to have a single-purpose account. You're welcome here as long as you want to use Hacker News as intended, but that means using it for intellectual curiosity, not lashing out at perceived national slights.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Because the community is Western-oriented and most of us are rather ignorant of things Chinese, I'm sure that many things people say on China topics can be hard to take. Nevertheless, we can't have nationalistic flamewars. If you know more, the thing to do is to teach us, in a good spirit. If you can't or don't want to do that, that's fine, but then please refrain from posting. I realize that it's not easy to hold a minority viewpoint under such conditions, but it's not in your interest to break the rules like this; it ends up representing your viewpoint in a bad way, which doesn't help.

Re:Apple CEO backs China’s ‘open’ Internet vision as censors... by wybiral on Monday December 04, 2017 @11:29PM (#15849727)
Not in the least. I just noticed that you seem to have a bit of an agenda. Nothing wrong with that, but you've presented more rhetoric than fact as far as I can see.
Re:Apple CEO backs China’s ‘open’ Internet vision as censors... by longcheng on Monday December 04, 2017 @11:42PM (#15849781)
I am mature enough and proud to have a consistent view.
Re:Apple CEO backs China’s ‘open’ Internet vision as censors... by smsm42 on Monday December 04, 2017 @11:33PM (#15849744)
In Russia, they say professional internet trolls get 11 RUR per comment (about 18c). I am curious how it is in China? Is it more or less?
Re:Apple CEO backs China’s ‘open’ Internet vision as censors... by richardknop on Monday December 04, 2017 @11:42PM (#15849783)
You would be surprised how many people are trolls for free. Just brainwashed people parroting Russian talking points planted by Putin's intelligence service. I can see this on discussion forums in Eastern Europe. I don't doubt many of those people genuinely believe those things and are not being paid.
Re:Apple CEO backs China’s ‘open’ Internet vision as censors... by noarchy on Monday December 04, 2017 @11:50PM (#15849814)
Re:Apple CEO backs China’s ‘open’ Internet vision as censors... by dang on Tuesday December 05, 2017 @01:14AM (#15850120)
This breaks the HN guidelines. Please read https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and follow them regardless of what you think of someone else's comments.
Re:Apple CEO backs China’s ‘open’ Internet vision as censors... by baybal2 on Tuesday December 05, 2017 @12:35AM (#15849970)
5 RUR, but that was over 10 years ago. These days, it must be over 10 times that.
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Re:Apple CEO backs China’s ‘open’ Internet vision as censors... by musage on Tuesday December 05, 2017 @01:22AM (#15850152)
What facts? You boast about might being right like a caveman, and call that progress. You're not even capable of hearing the words of truly progressive people, and what I criticize the US, European countries and others for, I could never admire about China. A few lines from a poem by Erich Friend come to mind:

the imprint of their naked feet / in the desert sand / will outlast the silhouettes / of your bombs and tanks

That goes for everybody, everywhere. Past, present, future. Identifying with a nation, religion or race is not a sign of greatness, it's a sign that a person didn't get to develop. Having reached the local optimum available to you does not equal maturity, having no room left to grow does not mean you're big. Tens of billions multiplied by zero still equals zero.