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Re:AWS AppSync – Build data-driven apps with real-time and o... by tal_berzniz on Tuesday November 28, 2017 @04:16PM (#15801765)
Amazon is amazing at creating scaleable and reliable services, but their UX and the way they announce new products is awful.

There's room for startups to wrap these services into something more usable. There are already good examples: netlify, graph.cool, dashbird and others.

Re:AWS AppSync – Build data-driven apps with real-time and o... by johne20 on Tuesday November 28, 2017 @05:43PM (#15802603)
Hopefully someone at AWS is reading this, and/or they are already working on it. I like AWS and have used it since the first days, but....

The AWS web console is terrible UX/UI, and when they do update an area, eg s3 they almost make it worse.

Please hire a few of the best UX/designers you can an do a top down refresh of the AWS console with consistent navigation.

I am moving new and existing projects to Google Cloud based on the some slight different product offerings, sustained use discounts, and in very large part on the better web console.

Re:AWS AppSync – Build data-driven apps with real-time and o... by RhodesianHunter on Tuesday November 28, 2017 @08:11PM (#15803604)
> and in very large part on the better web console

All I can say IRT this is WOW. The Google web console is one of the most painful UX experiences I've had in this space.

Re:AWS AppSync – Build data-driven apps with real-time and o... by johne20 on Wednesday November 29, 2017 @01:17AM (#15804996)
Thanks for the dialog. Worse than AWS? What areas? I don't think Google Cloud console is amazing as far as dashboards go, but it is way better (to me) than AWS web console.
Re:AWS AppSync – Build data-driven apps with real-time and o... by RhodesianHunter on Friday December 01, 2017 @10:13PM (#15829914)
I think so, yes. For example: You can browse BigQuery tables you have access to in a tab, but have to open a new tab to your project where you have billing attached to actually query those tables. So if you're part of a large organization with multiple divisions with their own billing, there is no way to see your tables and query them in the same view.

Most of the console feels to me like the people who build it don't actually use it.

Re:AWS AppSync – Build data-driven apps with real-time and o... by brango on Wednesday November 29, 2017 @05:18AM (#15805830)
Vertical sucks. You have to scroll down to somewhere different each time to find the thing you want. Also, the search box doesn't have all results cached so you type in, e.g. endpoints and it pauses for a few seconds until it displays a link to the menu. The GCP console sucks.
Re:AWS AppSync – Build data-driven apps with real-time and o... by RachelF on Tuesday November 28, 2017 @11:10PM (#15804509)
Also please hire someone who can write/document better. The author of this article may be a good coder, but is not a good writer.
Re:AWS AppSync – Build data-driven apps with real-time and o... by idunno246 on Wednesday November 29, 2017 @12:31AM (#15804811)
When you see mistakes or things that aren't clear, please use the feedback button on every page. Every time I've submitted something eventually it gets fixed, surprisingly it seems like people actually read that inbox.
Re:AWS AppSync – Build data-driven apps with real-time and o... by johne20 on Monday December 04, 2017 @04:58PM (#15847953)
Less than 5 days later, I see this in my console under RDS. https://i.imgur.com/JMhLOzF.png . :)
Re:AWS AppSync – Build data-driven apps with real-time and o... by avitzurel on Tuesday November 28, 2017 @04:40PM (#15802066)
I still think there is HUGE room for a service company that will wrap Amazon services in an economic way.

The value proposition here is incredible, you can save so much money for companies.

At my previous company, I changed one of the data ingestion architecture and saved 250,000$ in YEARLY AWS bill.

Of course, there are many problems with this, but I still think there is room for this. Right now, this knowledge is in silos in companies. Lots of companies should benefit from this.

Re:AWS AppSync – Build data-driven apps with real-time and o... by schickling on Tuesday November 28, 2017 @05:16PM (#15802383)
Thanks a great point, avitzurel! This will be exactly one of the core offerings what we're currently working on at Graphcool.

AWS provides great building blocks but using them efficiently is a major challenge (especially for smaller teams). Like in your case, there is an enormous potential in better resource utilization!

Re:AWS AppSync – Build data-driven apps with real-time and o... by foota on Tuesday November 28, 2017 @08:21PM (#15803651)
Interesting, building graphql wrappers to Amazon apis, you mean?
Re:AWS AppSync – Build data-driven apps with real-time and o... by k__ on Wednesday November 29, 2017 @03:58AM (#15805569)
Is this even possible?

I mean most of these APIs are more like RPC than REST.

Re:AWS AppSync – Build data-driven apps with real-time and o... by foota on Wednesday November 29, 2017 @04:15AM (#15805612)
If you had a heavy server then sure it is, making a nice enough wrapper might be a bit of a pain though.
Re:AWS AppSync – Build data-driven apps with real-time and o... by scoot on Tuesday November 28, 2017 @06:52PM (#15803198)
Cloud brokerage? The key is that they don't just wrap Amazon, but rather multiple cloud providers, and offer some degree of abstraction to enable multi-cloud architectures.
Re:AWS AppSync – Build data-driven apps with real-time and o... by avitzurel on Tuesday November 28, 2017 @07:00PM (#15803245)
I am not talking about reselling or just wrapping it in a different package. My point is that a lot of companies are over paying Amazon by a lot. There is room to improve this.

This is a classic service company, but the service it provides can be quantified and measured in a great way

Re:AWS AppSync – Build data-driven apps with real-time and o... by scoot on Wednesday November 29, 2017 @01:08PM (#15809219)
That is typically part of the cloud brokerage value add.
Re:AWS AppSync – Build data-driven apps with real-time and o... by stock_toaster on Wednesday November 29, 2017 @04:52AM (#15805731)
Doesn't cloudability help optimize cloud usage?
Re:AWS AppSync – Build data-driven apps with real-time and o... by actualanswer on Tuesday November 28, 2017 @04:19PM (#15801808)
And Heroku!
Re:AWS AppSync – Build data-driven apps with real-time and o... by callalex on Tuesday November 28, 2017 @11:56PM (#15804676)
This isn’t a new idea. Heroku has been successful since the beginning.