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Re:Google terminating YouTube channels and videos (2016) by jimminy on Sunday October 22, 2017 @06:13PM (#15529279)
Part of the issue is just the systems on the backend. I had my account removed about 3 years ago for some mistaken flag of copyright infringement, having never uploaded a video. I had 7 years of liked videos and curated playlists, that I wanted to save. Compounding the personal severity, some of the channels I'm subscribed to contained personal private videos from friends that had passed away.

It took me 4 days to get my account restored, and required calling into both Google and Youtube, as well as emailing, and contacting friends that worked at Google to get internal numbers. All because they have some system that accidentally flagged an account with zero uploads, and Google still lacks any real form of public customer service.

Re:Google terminating YouTube channels and videos (2016) by justinjlynn on Sunday October 22, 2017 @06:40PM (#15529416)
Might I highly recommend something like youtube-dl to save those precious videos and playlists locally. You never know when they're going to shut down your account again or go under.
Re:Google terminating YouTube channels and videos (2016) by jimminy on Sunday October 22, 2017 @06:47PM (#15529449)
Yep, I did that at the time, for the important videos. Still haven't found a good playlist backup, aside from using the API, not wanting to store all those videos (something like 2000 videos at this point across 30 lists, not including my watchlist or likes which is ~2500 videos).

I think they're safe from going under, but do worry about them shutting my account down again by accident.

Re:Google terminating YouTube channels and videos (2016) by justinjlynn on Sunday October 22, 2017 @06:53PM (#15529476)
youtube-dl handles playlist backup, annotation download, subtitles, thumbnails, etc. - no need to download the video or anything you don't want to (or you can download postage stamp previews, etc). shrug best archival solution I've found so far.
Re:Google terminating YouTube channels and videos (2016) by kingofpandora on Sunday October 22, 2017 @09:31PM (#15530048)
> Yep, I did that at the time, for the important videos. Still haven't found a good playlist backup, aside from using the API, not wanting to store all those videos (something like 2000 videos at this point ...

This is going to sound snarky but here goes ... Sounds like the problem is not wanting to store an admittedly large number of videos but not liking the service of the company doing it for you at no charge.

Re:Google terminating YouTube channels and videos (2016) by vollmond on Sunday October 22, 2017 @10:12PM (#15530197)
Advertising or data-mining supported services are not free. We are still paying in time or headspace or personal data, so it is perfectly valid to have a problem with the quality of service we receive in exchange for that payment.
Re:Google terminating YouTube channels and videos (2016) by jimminy on Monday October 23, 2017 @02:45AM (#15531168)
That's fair, most of the videos have no or little personal value, if bit rot occurred I most likely wouldn't notice up to around a 20% change.

Average length of time of those videos is around 5 minutes, total size ~135 hours, or ~150-200GB.

I could store a personal mirror, of much larger size for almost nothing, disregarding legality of such, but the data is less important than the references in a large number of cases. I don't care about the content as much as the ideas the references help recall, in most cases.

Re:Google terminating YouTube channels and videos (2016) by white-flame on Monday October 23, 2017 @12:14AM (#15530673)
> I think they're safe from going under

They're pretty safe from going under now, but what about when the next big breakthrough is at a competitor? Presumably you want to keep your memories past the 5-10 year visibility that technology cycles at.

Re:Google terminating YouTube channels and videos (2016) by amelius on Monday October 23, 2017 @04:44AM (#15531675)
But Google might add an invisible watermark to your video.
Re:Google terminating YouTube channels and videos (2016) by tyingq on Sunday October 22, 2017 @06:47PM (#15529451)
I assume this hosed your main Google account, right? Not just your access to YouTube?

That's the part that really rubs me the wrong way. That, for example, your nest thermostat (or email, or phone, etc) might not work right because you uploaded the wrong video one day.

Re:Google terminating YouTube channels and videos (2016) by jimminy on Sunday October 22, 2017 @06:53PM (#15529475)
> I assume this hosed your main Google account, right? Not just your access to YouTube?

Nope, it was just the Youtube account. When they did the Google+ transition, I generated a new Google account for my Youtube account, but linked it to my normal Google account.

I actually found out about the account removal because of message in Gmail that I had missed for 2-3 days.

Re:Google terminating YouTube channels and videos (2016) by tgragnato on Sunday October 22, 2017 @06:54PM (#15529482)
Did he upload the wrong video ? The possibility is even worse than that, it's because of a server side bug.
Re:Google terminating YouTube channels and videos (2016) by KGIII on Sunday October 22, 2017 @09:51PM (#15530136)
jimminy stated they'd never uploaded any videos, which makes it even more puzzling.
Re:Google terminating YouTube channels and videos (2016) by lostmsu on Monday October 23, 2017 @11:36AM (#15533931)
He also stated later, that he had older videos uploaded long time ago.
Re:Google terminating YouTube channels and videos (2016) by jimminy on Monday October 23, 2017 @12:26PM (#15534382)
That was a different individual. I've never uploaded a video at any point.
Re:Google terminating YouTube channels and videos (2016) by RealityNow on Monday October 23, 2017 @12:41AM (#15530777)
My Youtube account got banned 10 years ago with videos on it I made as a teen that are now gone forever. 7 years ago or so I had tried emailing their customer support which of course didn't get me anywhere. Is there any way I can get those videos back? Unfortunately I don't have any contacts at Google, but if I were to get in hold with someone who works there, is there anything in particular I should direct them to do?

I should be upfront and say that I got banned for uploading a video that was deemed inappropriate. I don't really fault them for banning the account, I just wish they had given me the chance to back up my other perfectly appropriate videos. I know those videos probably still exist on some hard drive on a Google server.

Re:Google terminating YouTube channels and videos (2016) by digi_owl on Monday October 23, 2017 @04:46AM (#15531686)
What i don't get i why they do these "hard" bans. Would have been more helpful and long term friendly to basically take the videos off air and forbid the account from uploading any more videos, but leave the account itself active.
Re:Google terminating YouTube channels and videos (2016) by jimminy on Monday October 23, 2017 @12:32PM (#15534436)
Yeah, that would be a great policy. Still allow consumption, but remove any production rights on the service.
Re:Google terminating YouTube channels and videos (2016) by jimminy on Monday October 23, 2017 @12:30PM (#15534420)
I don't know about Google's cleanup policies, but I would guess that data may have been gone within 3-6 months.

When my ban occurred, I had reclaimed access in a total of 5-6 days, due to an urgency to make sure I got through before any cleanup occurred.

Re:Google terminating YouTube channels and videos (2016) by RealityNow on Monday October 23, 2017 @04:56PM (#15536870)
Well that sucks. Guess those videos are probably gone forever.
Re:Google terminating YouTube channels and videos (2016) by xor1 on Sunday October 22, 2017 @06:20PM (#15529311)
You should be extremely grateful you were actually able to reach anyone and get it restored at all.
Re:Google terminating YouTube channels and videos (2016) by JauntyHatAngle on Sunday October 22, 2017 @06:31PM (#15529368)
>You should be extremely grateful you were actually able to reach anyone and get it restored at all.

Nitpicky, but no he shouldn't, he should feel lucky, sure, but grateful? No, he should feel angry that it happened in the first place, and only somewhat placated that they restored it.

Re:Google terminating YouTube channels and videos (2016) by jimminy on Sunday October 22, 2017 @06:37PM (#15529398)
Absolutely feel a little grateful, to the people that I was able to reach. And somewhat lucky that I had contacts, to escalate if necessary, though I did manage to go through public channels.

And yes, I'm absolutely livid still over the fact that their system couldn't observe a purely consumer account, with only a few small comments, could be flagged as copyright infringing. Had I been unable to reach a human for manual review of the nonsense of my account status, I'm positive I wouldn't have regained access.

Re:Google terminating YouTube channels and videos (2016) by colonelpopcorn on Sunday October 22, 2017 @07:27PM (#15529616)
Because you're not a customer. You don't pay for YouTube, advertisers do.
Re:Google terminating YouTube channels and videos (2016) by reificator on Sunday October 22, 2017 @08:41PM (#15529893)
I absolutely pay for YouTube in a package deal with Google Play Music.

$15/mo for the family plan.

Re:Google terminating YouTube channels and videos (2016) by adventurer on Sunday October 22, 2017 @09:17PM (#15530012)
YouTube Red or as I like to call it sometimes, because frankly I can't remember, RedTube. <-NSFW
Re:Google terminating YouTube channels and videos (2016) by tnoeu09rclnt on Sunday October 22, 2017 @09:35PM (#15530066)
In case anyone is unclear on this, RedTube is a different site that hosts hardcore porn.
Re:Google terminating YouTube channels and videos (2016) by yjftsjthsd-h on Sunday October 22, 2017 @09:46PM (#15530118)
... a fact which can lead to hilarious misunderstandings
Re:Google terminating YouTube channels and videos (2016) by motardo on Sunday October 22, 2017 @07:50PM (#15529726)
Exactly, advertisers are the customer, you are the product
Re:Google terminating YouTube channels and videos (2016) by cable2600 on Sunday October 22, 2017 @07:59PM (#15529748)
A Tom Sawyer business plan where the users do all the work and pay for the privilege by having their data sold to the highest bidder.

Free as in money does not mean the same as free as in speech.

Re:Google terminating YouTube channels and videos (2016) by stevenwoo on Sunday October 22, 2017 @08:31PM (#15529862)
I wonder if the OP were one of the youtube paying customer (for the ad free version) if OP would have gotten a better response.
Re:Google terminating YouTube channels and videos (2016) by tmaly on Monday October 23, 2017 @11:29AM (#15533874)
I often wonder what people do for all the videos they make of their kids. I do not want to lose them, but in the age of HD video, where do you store them for the long term?
Re:Google terminating YouTube channels and videos (2016) by jimminy on Monday October 23, 2017 @12:47PM (#15534564)
Depending on how much content you have a small drive array should be fine if you're willing to down size to 720p^. Or willing to upgrade to higher capacity than what I share below.

An hour of 720p = ~1.15GB

An hour per week for a year is ~60GB. On a hard drive, you can fit 30 years of data at that rate into a 2TB drive. Or you could put almost a year of data onto a dual-layer Blu-Ray disc (50GB).

^I personally have a really hard time seeing quality gains in video above that.

Re:Google terminating YouTube channels and videos (2016) by tmaly on Monday October 23, 2017 @02:22PM (#15535563)
how do you handle redundancy and fires?
Re:Google terminating YouTube channels and videos (2016) by jimminy on Monday October 23, 2017 @02:54PM (#15535904)
For local redundancy, use a RAID 1 or RAID 5 setup, either in one of your home systems, or you can buy a simple NAS solution like a Drobo, and set it up for mirroring to multiple drives. The NAS unit ($350-500) + 3-4 4TB HDD's (~$120/each), or $700-1000 which will last years.

To do offsite, in case of fire, you can clone backups onto another harddrive or every few weeks or months onto blurays and store them at a relatives, safety deposit box, or somewhere else you consider safe and accessible. Or you are willing, for offsite matters, go a cloud provided like Google, Box, DropBox, which will charge you $10-20/mo for a TB of storage on their servers, you can use that.

I personally, don't use much offsite storage, for most of my data. I make occasional Blu-Ray or thumbdrive clones of important files and keep them in my bedroom, and accessible if I have to run. And while traveling I'll bring a set of thumbdrives with me.