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Re:The Decline of Investment in San Francisco Startups by vidoc on Friday July 21, 2017 @01:26AM (#14818265)
> Riding BART into and out of SF as a commute is ridiculous at a new level nowadays.

Especially given the shocking number of uneducated people who insist on keeping their backpacks on their shoulders despite the train being packed. Totally pisses me off!

Re:The Decline of Investment in San Francisco Startups by santaclaus on Friday July 21, 2017 @02:21AM (#14818447)
Ok, while we are on BART gripes: what is the deal with people trying to squeeze their way upstream and board the cars before everyone has fully detrained? In NYC peeps form little ad-hoc queues to the left and right of the doors, let the exiters exit, then enter in two quick streams. In the Bay, I feel like MFing Moses trying to part the sea when exiting a train.

Don't even get me started on the weird station lines that people form at Embarcadero/Montgomery/Powell...

Re:The Decline of Investment in San Francisco Startups by ihaveajob on Friday July 21, 2017 @09:26AM (#14820307)
It's even more annoying given that passengers waiting to board know EXACTLY where the door will be when the train stops, thanks to those black edge marks. It might not be a bad idea to ask BART to add some floor marks telling people where to line up on crowded stations.
Re:The Decline of Investment in San Francisco Startups by kcanini on Friday July 21, 2017 @12:00PM (#14821545)
Seems like adding these stickers would be useful: http://thesource.metro.net/2013/02/13/new-platform-decals-re...
Re:The Decline of Investment in San Francisco Startups by makr17 on Friday July 21, 2017 @01:20PM (#14822206)
You'd think, but at crowded platfroms people are still standing right in the middle of the yellow, and don't budge when the train arrives. :-(
Re:The Decline of Investment in San Francisco Startups by deepGem on Friday July 21, 2017 @08:19AM (#14819774)
I've seen the same behavior in London tube and Singapore MRT as well, despite display boards that indicate removing backpacks in crowded trains. Mumbai locals handle this in the best possible way, you simply cannot get on the train during peak traffic if you have a backpack. I mean you probably can wiggle in, your backpack might not :)
Re:The Decline of Investment in San Francisco Startups by amelius on Friday July 21, 2017 @04:38AM (#14818989)
I like those backpacks. They provide a nice buffer between me and the next person, allowing for some breathing space.
Re:The Decline of Investment in San Francisco Startups by orblivion on Friday July 21, 2017 @10:53AM (#14820995)
Pisses me off that I have to take off my bag. I have to keep my feet together to protect it, which doesn't help my balancing leverage.
Re:The Decline of Investment in San Francisco Startups by vidoc on Saturday July 22, 2017 @10:28PM (#14830592)
Try to just hang it with your hands, you'll see, it's not that bad and the bonus is that you don't piss off other people.
Re:The Decline of Investment in San Francisco Startups by hossbeast on Friday July 21, 2017 @02:13AM (#14818421)
How do you know they're uneducated?
Re:The Decline of Investment in San Francisco Startups by nwatson on Friday July 21, 2017 @02:32AM (#14818497)
In Spanish and Portuguese "mal educado" == literally "poorly educated" is used to mean "someone with poor etiquette ... doesn't know how things should work" ... writer probably means in that sense.
Re:The Decline of Investment in San Francisco Startups by noobermin on Friday July 21, 2017 @02:28AM (#14818478)
Perhaps they mean "uneducated in riding public transport in a way that doesn't hassle other passengers."
Re:The Decline of Investment in San Francisco Startups by Sleeep on Friday July 21, 2017 @10:08AM (#14820638)
Anecdotal I know but from what I've seen they probably know they should put their backpacks in front, they just don't care. I went to a museum once where patrons were asked to either wear their backpacks in front of them or lock them up near the entrance. Literally almost everyone disregarded those instructions and put their backpacks on their back despite being asked directly multiple times to put their backpacks in front. They would for a quick second then move them to their back once the museum staff looked away. It was a real eye opener on people's self centeredness.
Re:The Decline of Investment in San Francisco Startups by richardknop on Friday July 21, 2017 @05:05AM (#14819071)
He meant "uneducated" on how to behave in the tube. We would say the same thing in Europe if somebody is walking on the wrong side of escalators or similar, it doesn't mean we are literally saying they are uneducated.
Re:The Decline of Investment in San Francisco Startups by hossbeast on Friday July 21, 2017 @08:27PM (#14824731)
Thanks, I'm unfamiliar with this usage. It was an honest question, don't know why I got downvoted.
Re:The Decline of Investment in San Francisco Startups by eeZah7Ux on Friday July 21, 2017 @09:10AM (#14820163)
Placing the backpack at your feet takes almost the same space, unless you are really fat, plus it becomes a tripping hazard and gets kicked.
Re:The Decline of Investment in San Francisco Startups by yardie on Friday July 21, 2017 @10:32AM (#14820800)
Unless you are a slug, or have elephantitis, your torso and arms take up twice the volume of your legs.
Re:The Decline of Investment in San Francisco Startups by cat199 on Friday July 21, 2017 @04:55PM (#14823689)
It's called 'straddling'.

This way, the space between your legs (which is about the same width as your shoulders) serves as a convenient location to store said bag, while also allowing you to stand over it and thereby protect it from trips/kicks and reduce your overall surface footprint.