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Re:Electric vehicles reached 2M cars in 2016 by kilroy123 on Wednesday June 07, 2017 @06:17PM (#14510284)
I agree. So we'll just sit in the same traffic in our electric car for an hour, each way to work?

I could see traffic a being a lot better with fully autonomous cars. Still, public transportation and more bike lanes seem like a much better investment and way to go.

Re:Electric vehicles reached 2M cars in 2016 by awjr on Wednesday June 07, 2017 @06:30PM (#14510370)
I'd be surprised if private autonomous cars will be allowed into cities, whereas public ride share autonomous mini-buses with dynamic routing AI will be the way forward.
Re:Electric vehicles reached 2M cars in 2016 by edaemon on Wednesday June 07, 2017 @09:40PM (#14511256)
I think people like their privacy too much for that, as efficient as it may be. It seems more likely to me that private (or public single-occupant) autonomous cars will become smaller. Something like a Smart car size autonomous EV -- small enough to minimize costs, large enough to be useful for the single rider.
Re:Electric vehicles reached 2M cars in 2016 by awjr on Thursday June 08, 2017 @05:22AM (#14512953)
A developed country is not a place where the poor have cars. It’s where the rich use public transport — paraphrased from Enrique Penalosa, former Mayor of Bogotá, Colombia

http://newyork.thecityatlas.org/lifestyle/developed-area-ric...

I think privacy is something that is a function of cost benefit. When road pricing becomes ubiquitous (as it will given the march towards EV), people will begin shift to public transport.

Re:Electric vehicles reached 2M cars in 2016 by tonyedgecombe on Thursday June 08, 2017 @05:46AM (#14513015)
Perhaps the solution for Americans will need to be different to that of the rest of the world.
Re:Electric vehicles reached 2M cars in 2016 by jklinger410 on Wednesday June 07, 2017 @07:35PM (#14510730)
Prepare to be surprised
Re:Electric vehicles reached 2M cars in 2016 by Brakenshire on Wednesday June 07, 2017 @07:59PM (#14510847)
There are already congestion charging schemes. I doubt it will ever get to a ban (and you can wouldn't want that) but I think it will be expensive. You could actually just charge a flat fee for road space, so a bus carrying 70 people is 3 times as long as a car, so only pays 3 times more. And maybe a separate charge of minimum standard to discourage nitrogen or particulate air pollution.
Re:Electric vehicles reached 2M cars in 2016 by awjr on Wednesday June 07, 2017 @08:06PM (#14510894)
I suspect that the move to EV will eventually create a revenue hole from reduced fuel taxes necessitating the move to road pricing. Politically unpalatable but I think a necessary step.
Re:Electric vehicles reached 2M cars in 2016 by apk-d on Thursday June 08, 2017 @05:47AM (#14513019)
I'd be a bit scared to sit inside a public autonomous vehicle. I mean, how hard could it be to tamper with the thing before I get in? I'd be surprised if it didn't run WiFi, Bluetooth AND cellular at the same time.

It'd be best if the software on it was open source, came with a nice tasty bug bounty and had an occasional audit from a third party secu- oh god it's never happening is it

Re:Electric vehicles reached 2M cars in 2016 by Dylan16807 on Thursday June 08, 2017 @07:15AM (#14513311)
I can understand worries about some kind of remote mass hacking, but in-person tampering with one vehicle? Just slit the brake line. In other words, not a new issue.
Re:Electric vehicles reached 2M cars in 2016 by rockinghigh on Thursday June 08, 2017 @10:19AM (#14514327)
People could also tamper with non-autonomous transit like disabling the breaks.
Re:Electric vehicles reached 2M cars in 2016 by lj3 on Wednesday June 07, 2017 @08:28PM (#14510991)
> So we'll just sit in the same traffic in our electric car for an hour, each way to work?

On the bright side, electric cars don't pollute emissions or noise when idling. It's an incremental improvement, but one I happily embrace.

Re:Electric vehicles reached 2M cars in 2016 by vinay427 on Wednesday June 07, 2017 @10:39PM (#14511466)
Modern ICE vehicles with stop-start which is available even on mid-range vehicles don't pollute while idling, so then the problem with heavy traffic is limited to moving slowly, which electric vehicles still seem better at.
Re:Electric vehicles reached 2M cars in 2016 by toomuchtodo on Wednesday June 07, 2017 @11:06PM (#14511593)
CO2 causes climate change. Buying oil empowers authoritarian, barbaric regimes.

EVs full speed ahead.