Marc Andreessen: “Take the Ego Out of Ideas”

Re:Marc Andreessen: “Take the Ego Out of Ideas” by exclusiv on Friday April 07, 2017 @02:10PM (#14062110)

Exactly. Although I don't think work in the car would be the same quality - if you use that time to handle emails it could be a big boost to get most emails addressed before you get to the office. I live about 12 miles from my office and going to the office removes about 1.5-2 hrs per day. Getting ready, 30 mins each way. I try to schedule phone calls for my commute but I don't always have calls to handle. I've worked with people with families who commuted 1.5 hrs each way every day. So yes, self-driving cars would impact a lot of people in a positive way if they optimize their workflow.

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Re:Marc Andreessen: “Take the Ego Out of Ideas” by ryandrake on Friday April 07, 2017 @03:03PM (#14062570)

I don't know. I've got a 2 hour commute each way. There's no way a company would accept my rolling in at 10AM and leaving at 4PM just because I'm working from 8-10 and 4-6 in my self-driving car. More than likely, self-driving cars will mean workers are still expected to get their 8-to-6 on-premesis face time, and then use their self-driving time to catch some shut-eye.

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Re:Marc Andreessen: “Take the Ego Out of Ideas” by exclusiv on Friday April 07, 2017 @04:59PM (#14063465)

That's a good point. It would be a hard sell for most companies. But you could probably take a longer lunch because you got work done earlier. Or I suppose use the time for ongoing professional development instead which has a lot of value.

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Re:Marc Andreessen: “Take the Ego Out of Ideas” by ant6n on Friday April 07, 2017 @08:49PM (#14064592)

2h commute each way? I feel like there's ways to "fix" this using pre-21st century "technology". The issue seems to be one of how society is organized, especially geographically, not one of self-driving cars.

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Re:Marc Andreessen: “Take the Ego Out of Ideas” by mattnewton on Friday April 07, 2017 @09:58PM (#14064831)

Wasn't hard for me. I worked on the bus into the office, and was available online, and it was accepted.

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Re:Marc Andreessen: “Take the Ego Out of Ideas” by goatlover on Friday April 07, 2017 @03:59PM (#14063058)

I feel like getting to your job should be part of the job, especially when it becomes possible to do your job on the way.

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Re:Marc Andreessen: “Take the Ego Out of Ideas” by taysic on Friday April 07, 2017 @10:23PM (#14064925)

But if jobs that could be remote are not accepted to be allowed to be remote by employers - why would those folks be ok with working during a commute? If anything, if sounds like an employee may not be at 100% focus. I don't even like reading in a car while it's moving.

I mean, I hope this becomes the case but I think employees will need to ask for it more.

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Re:Marc Andreessen: “Take the Ego Out of Ideas” by graycat on Friday April 07, 2017 @08:16PM (#14064467)

> I feel like getting to your job should be part of the job

I agree:

I put 200,000+ miles on each of three cars, mostly commuting to work. Soooo, that was a lot of money, all after tax -- buy the car, usually on time so that there was interest, pay for insurance, fuel, maintenance, tolls, parking. All those expenses should have been pre-tax money, "unreimbursed business expenses" like, say, professional text books at least long were.

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Re:Marc Andreessen: “Take the Ego Out of Ideas” by mrep on Friday April 07, 2017 @09:07PM (#14064661)

Except you chose to live that far away. I live right next to my office and it takes me less than 10 minutes to get to work.

Should I be compensated for my high rent that comes with living downtown?

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Re:Marc Andreessen: “Take the Ego Out of Ideas” by jackvalentine on Saturday April 08, 2017 @02:29AM (#14065632)

We have this exact argument at my company.

The parking is insufficient and costs money, so the drivers would like cheaper more plentiful parking.

The non-drivers catch the bus or pay extra to live in the surrounding suburbs so they can walk in.

Neither side will see the others point of view.

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Re:Marc Andreessen: “Take the Ego Out of Ideas” by CalRobert on Saturday April 08, 2017 @03:23AM (#14065781)

Don't know where you're located, but attempts to handle this have been made via parking cashout laws (https://www.arb.ca.gov/planning/tsaq/cashout/cashout.htm)

When I was brand new in my career I got about $200 a month for not using a parking spot in Santa Monica. It was a nice little bonus.

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Re:Marc Andreessen: “Take the Ego Out of Ideas” by jackvalentine on Saturday April 08, 2017 @03:51AM (#14065853)

That would actually work - our company has its own campus and (mostly) controls its own parking.

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Re:Marc Andreessen: “Take the Ego Out of Ideas” by CalRobert on Saturday April 08, 2017 @03:22AM (#14065778)

I pay more in rent so I can live close to my job. I walk to work. Should I be able to expense my rent?

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Re:Marc Andreessen: “Take the Ego Out of Ideas” by abalashov on Saturday April 08, 2017 @01:28AM (#14065479)

For real. Have people saying this ever tried to work in a moving car? To achieve deep concentration with a laptop on a train? Even in an exceptionally comfortable cabin?

I'm not saying it's impossible. I've done it here and there. But it's definitely a challenge and far from a norm.

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Re:Marc Andreessen: “Take the Ego Out of Ideas” by exclusiv on Saturday April 08, 2017 @08:21PM (#14069800)

Yeah I can't do it although my biz Dev guy cranks out PowerPoints, emails, financial models, etc. He seems to like working in that environment.

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Re:Marc Andreessen: “Take the Ego Out of Ideas” by abalashov on Monday April 10, 2017 @01:17AM (#14076236)

I would contend that this kind of work is a lot more possible in a car than coding.

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